Conference rusure::nintendo

    I bought this game 'Conflict' a few weeks ago, and just started
    getting into it ( had to finish Mario III first ).
    
    It appears to be a pretty decent war simulation game. If you
    like war games, this should be your ticket. 
    
    If you play against the machine, it does start with an unfair
    advantage ( with another player, you start even ). As an example,
    the game can build Mig-23's, but you can't build F-16's. 
    
    Last night I was able to finally beat the machine and win the
    first battle scenario.  

    
    Where did you buy the game and for about how much ?
    
    Rick A

    YOU CAN TRY LOOKING AT TOYS R US FOR CONFLICT.  THAT'S WHERE I BOUGHT
    MINE.  IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT,TRY G&G AT VALCO PARK.  I FORGOT HOW MUCH
    I PAID.  IT WAS AROUND $40 OR SO.
    
    STEPHEN

    
    Got one at Toy-r-US for $44.95.
    Game is much better with instructions.
    I still say it cheats, but I shall keep at it.
    
    Anyone got any hints ?
    
    Rick A

    Do the instructions list the victory conditions for each scneario?
    I know you have to get the Flag Tank, or Both Factories, but I think
    you can win by getting most of the cities too.
    
    Do the instructions say anything about the battle system?  I know you
    have to get the enemy sighted, so LOOK is very important, but the
    Move, Hide, and Adjust don't seem to do too much.  A tank seems to
    sight better if it turns.  And does it make a difference if you choose
    DEF or RET? (I think RET means you have a better chance to evade, but
    less chance to sight the enemy)
    
    -Brian

    WHEN I PLAYED, I FOUND OUT THAT IF YOU MOVE YOU SEEM TO EVADE MORE, BUT
    HAVE LESS COUNTER ASTTACKS.  IF YOU ADJUST, YOU WILL STILL PROBABLY GET
    HIT, BUT YOU ALMOST ALWAYS GET A COUNTER ATTACK.  IF YOU HAVE THE
    STRONGER MACHINE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WIN.  THE COMPUTER ALSO WORKS
    IN PATERNS.  TRY TO LEARN THE PATTERNS FOR EACH SCENE.
    AS FOR THE CITIES AND AIRFIELDS; THEY ARE WORTH FAME POINTS.  WHEN YOU
    TAKE OVER ONE OF THE AREAS, IT WILL TURN FROM GREY COLOR TO BLUE.  IF
    THE COMPUTER TAKES ONE OVER IT WILL TURN TO RED.  I THINK EACH CITY IS
    WORTH 100 FAME POINTS. 
    THE COMPUTER IS VERY POWERFUL, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY STUPID.  I HOPE THIS
    HELPPED.
    
    STEPHEN
    
    BY THE WAY, THE REASON I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE I BECAME
    ADICTED TO IT.  I KEPT PLAYING TILL I HAD ALL THE BATTLES WON SO I
    COULD GO ON TO THE FINAL CONFLICT.  IT'S A GOOD GAME.

    The ultimate victory, as described in the instructions, is
    to beat the enemy FLAG TANK. I have wiped out all but this
    and the game continues. There is also a page that describes
    the 5-6 MANEUVERS such as LOOK, MOVE, etc and what the possible
    outcomes are for these with respect to DEF or RET. I think that
    it may also factor in the torrain that you are battling on. 
    There are several pages that explain the effect torrain has on
    movement, defense and offense.
    
    DEF or RET make a difference but it is not too clear. The manual
    speaks to DEF but says little about RET. Strange !
    
    Regrading the last reply, it does work in patterns. Like most
    Nintendo games, if you play a certain scenrio to death you will
    win sooner or later. As far as stupid, form what I have gathered
    from these board wargame wizards I know, all the computerized
    game are. The better ones let you vary a number of start-up options
    to help you learn and or make the game tougher.
    
    If anyone has any specific questions on CONFLICT and its instructions,
    please feel free to contact by mail. I will be happy to clarify.
    
    Rick (who has won only 2 out of 16 battles) A

     I've managed to win scenario's 1-7, most of them on the first try,
    and I think that the easiest way to beat the computer is to spend 
    your first couple of turns buying anti-air weapons. Once his air-
    support and his aircraft production facility is gone (bombed), its
    pretty easy to beat the ground forces, although you must protect
    your production facilities from air attack or the battle can go on
    forever.
    
     I think my longest battle was #5 (?), it took me almost 2 hrs.
    
    Jim  
    

    
    I agree .8...
    I beat "CATS AND DOGS" (??) last night. That makes three !
    I most have spent about 2 hours on #5 also.
    
    Keep your missiles dry !!
    
    Rick A

I defeated the computer in all the senarios except 'Crossing the Barrier'.  I
wanted to see the Final Conflict, so I went through all the letters for this
round with the letters I got from the other rounds.  I did not think this 16th
round was much different from  the others.

I build M48s first when ever possible then hit the Enemy 'Air' Factory.  Once
the air is controlled Bombers can clean up.

I am in the Phidelphia Area and have not seen the game for sale.  I could have
bought the game for the number of times I have rented it.  Anyone seen it for
sale in this area.

Thanks.

 

    I am having a real bad time beating the 5th scenario.
    
    With the computer getting $20K and me only $5K, one lose and
    I am history. Anybody have any suggestions ?
    
    Frustration level at I actually chucked the controller at the TV.
    Childish I know but I was really torgued. Every battle in this
    level seems to be setup for the comouter to win. Atleast 8 out
    of 10 times (if I last that long).
    
    HELP !!!!!!!!!!
    
    Rick A

    Don't feel real bad about bouncing the controller, I've done
    it a few times myself.
    
    Jim

    I've never played Conflict, but I understand bouncing the controllers.
    
    My NES Advantage controller is too heavy to actually chuck at anything,
    but the TV tray that it sits on it a bit bent from my slamming it down
    in frustration.
    
    Hint:  If you slam down your Advantage, and then appears to be broken,
    check to make sure that one of the solder spikes on the boards hasn't
    pierced any of the internal wires.  You get interesting effects from
    such a short circuit - but further game playing is rather hard...  ;-)
    
    - Chris

    
    Thanks to the last few replies for your understanding.
    I am sure this frustration level exists in ALL Nintendo games.
    
    But to get back to it...........
    
    HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!  8>)
    
    Rick A

    RE: .10---Did you have any luck in finding Conflict in local stores?  I
    live in the Maynard area and I have been looking for this game. 
    Toys-R-Us had it at one time, but the day I was there (2 months ago)
    they were out.  Now when I go there or to Child World, etc, they don't
    even have an empty space for it.  It's like it never existed.  Any body
    out there seen it?
    
    By the way, what I am really looking for is a game similar to a
    computer game called EMPIRE where you can build various ships, armies,
    fighters, etc.  You then go exploring the "world" until you encounter
    neutral cities, which you conquer.  Each time you conquer a city you
    put it to work building more fighting units.  Eventually you begin to
    find cities that belong to your opponent (the computer or another
    player, there can be three of you), and you try to capture them, too. 
    You either win or lose depending on how clever you are in attacking,
    what you spend time building, etc.  It really is fun and CONFLICT
    sounds like the closest Nintendo game to it.
    
    Any suggestions??

 RE:492.11

  Rick A.

  I am having a real bad time beating the 5th scenario.

    With the computer getting $20K and me only $5K, one lose and
    I am history. Anybody have any suggestions ?

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   Rick if you are on the 1st level look at the terrain,and use it wisely.





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     Attack his airpower first by watch where he move it in previous
   5th scenario. The computer is Dumb and will usually make the same 
   moves on each turn (ie.. the first fews turns the computer always 
   moves the same pieces to the same locations) once you have the pattern
   use the correct terrian ( ie.. flack panzers usually win over air
   units if the panzers is in the trees.) to attack first. Also air
   unit subtract more framing points from the computers f.p. score.


    CONFLICT ON!!! Two levels down 3rd Level to GO..

                     Richard Inman

    How do you get money to build. Whenever I try It only gives me the
    option of getting infantry???/

    re.17
    
    Either start on another level so that you start with fame points, or 
    take over cities and airports.  Each city and airport is worth 100 
    fame points and is added on to your fame points at the beginning of 
    your turn.  Level 1 I think give you the most fame points to start out
    with, but the computer also gets a lot more than on the level you're
    playing now.
    
    						Stephen  };-}

    HELP!!
    
    I have beaten the first 15 maps at Level One.  I carefully wrote
    down the letter at the end of each battle.  But I was not careful
    enough, as the game rejects my password.  I called Nintendo but
    they don't have the Level One password to get into the final
    conflict.  I don't want to have to go back and beat them all
    again.  Anyone have the password to go to the final conflict?
    
    While I'm at it, some general advice:
    
    1. As noted in previous replies, take care to take over as many
    cities and airports as you safely can.  You build up fame points
    (production values) that way.  But once you turn a city blue,
    you get credit for it even when you're not occupying it.  So
    it is good at the very beginning of a map to occupy some fairly
    nearby cities/airports, and then retreat back to cover factories
    and commander.
    
    2. Don't overbuild at the beginning!  I have found that much of
    what you build in the beginning is useless towards the end.
    What I try to do is get a couple of surface-to-air vehicles and
    a decent tank.  I keep one of the surface-to-air vehicles *on*
    the factory as protection.  And I keep a decent fighter on the
    other factory for the same reason.
    
    3. What tends to happen is that the computer will spend the first
    few turns occupying cities/airports, just like you would.  Unless
    you get a unit out there unprotected, it will systematically
    do this until it has occupied all that it can.  Use this interval
    to do the same, and to move the first few surface-to-air units
    off the factories and nearer your commander.  Build a protective
    wall around your commander.
    
    4. In most scenarios, the computer will then build fighters
    to send against your factories.  Fighters are easily shot down
    by M247's and M48's.  A good tactic: put an infantry unit a
    few squares away from a factory.  The fighter will almost
    always go after that unit.  It will kill that unit, which will
    only cost you 100 FP's.  On your next turn, move a surface-to-air
    unit out to kill the fighter.  Use bait!
    
    5. After you kill 3 or 4 of its fighters, the computer won't
    have enough FP's to build any more for awhile.  It might build
    air-to-surface units, which are rough on factories and tanks.
    Here's where *not* overbuilding in the beginning will help you
    out.  Build fighters to go after his bombers.  Killing them will
    get his FP's down even more.  By then, he will be building 
    infantry and commandos.
    
    6. Now, use the fighters to take out his factories.  You many lose
    a couple, which is fine.  Re-build using M1A1 tanks or air-to-surface
    bombers to tank out his tanks, and his surface-to-air launchers.
    
    7. Then, go after his commander with the bombers.
    
    As I say, this is general advice, but should give the new player
    at least a structure to work with and modify.
    
    Password anyone?
    
    Joel