Conference rusure::nintendo

I say DragonQuest is the old (few years old) game.
At that time the cart. has not enough mem.

In famicom,it was the first major R.P.G.
After DraQue,other games made much better ,and it is natural.

I say end of DragonW.I, just entered DragonQuest_World!!!

Functions and map,party became great.

Please play it when it appeared!!

We waiting Draque IV now.

Hiro

   Games too easy?  I think it is more that the game player is becoming
 better at it.  My first game was Zelda and it took me a loooong time
 to conquer it.  It was hard because it was something that I've never
 seen before.  When I play the new games now, I know what to expect to
 a certain degree, and I know how to approach solving a riddle or 
 problem or fighting an enemy using the controller.  The games are still
 difficult, it is just that I've gotten a lot better at playing them.
 It is still just as much fun, probably even more so in that I don't
 get as frustrated.  

   The time issue?  A $40 investment for 24 hours of play is fine with me. 
 Get up near a 100 hours of play time for one  game and that is too much. 
 That's a huge chunk of time that could be spent experiencing some of life's 
 other pleasures.

   From a Nintendo point of view, I wouldn't make a game that is going
 to take so long that the player won't be buying other games for a long
 period of time.  Also, their big customers are boys age 7-15, not the
 most patient people in the world.  ;^)

-rick
    

    Sounds like the note I started for *game endings* Note 313 could
    have easily went here.  I seem to be saying the same thing.  I didn't
    really consider I was getting better.  As a matter of fact there
    are many games that I can't do let alone *win* at.  I am a paitient
    person and could take time for a long game but if the game seems
    to greatly exceed my ability or willingness for a challenge I give
    up on it.  For instance I loved the Legend of Zelda but Link didn't
    hold my interest.  It's like a poor sequel to a good movie.
    
    Others thoughts, please.

    I think a LOT of games are formula games.  Computer games have been
    around a long time, and some varieties are very well developed.  Ultima
    Exodus is really Ultima III, so it is definitely a formula game.
    
    Many video game players are seeing these games for the first time, so
    they are new and exciting at first.  But the formulae start to show
    after a few games.  Of course, a lot of video games are new, taking
    advantage of the graphics not previously available easily even with
    computers.  And there are some new developments, as with Legend of
    Zelda.   But even these new things inspire formula sequels.
    
    It is necessary to look harder for interesting games.  Look for the
    unusual, the novel.  When I was rating games, one of my metrics was
    uniqueness.  Games can be rated as to degree of uniqueness -- the
    amount of features/qualities it has which differ from other games and
    the value/ingenuity of those qualities.  In this sense, there are more
    and less unique games.  Among Nintendo games, the most unique are
    Legend of Zelda, Super Mario Brothers, and Tetris.  Consider how simple
    Tetris is, yet so popular and absorbing.  And it is extremely different
    from other games on the market.
    
    Other games of notable novelty are Mario Brothers, Adventures of Lolo,
    Gyromite, and Wrecking Crew.  Games of some novelty are Bomberman,
    Wizards and Warriors, Ultima (if you haven't experienced such games
    elsewhere), and Rygar.
    
    
    				-- edp 

    BTW, so far the few games I have seen described for the new, advanced
    game systems seem merely formula games with fancy graphics.
    
    I have a Sega system and quite a few games.  Right now, my "active
    list" of games includes Golvellius, King's Quest, and Penguin Land on
    the Sega system and Dragon Warrior and Milon's Secret Castle on the
    Nintendo.  I intend to give Milon's Secret Castle another shot and then
    will put it aside whether I finish it or not.  That means that right
    now, Sega is doing a better job of entertaining than Nintendo is.
    
    However, since new systems are on the way out, I do not recommend
    anybody getting a Sega system now.  I would advise waiting until the
    new systems are all out and all have their initial selection of games
    on the market -- then decide about upgrading or possibly buying the old
    Sega system.
    
    
    				-- edp

    I just bought "Legacy Of The Wizard".I feel as if i'm playing The
    Legend Of Zelda for the first time.So, if your bored this game 
    might last a week.
    I'll be playing Wizard for awhile.
         
               
                                       Phyllis
    

    I moved this since it seemed more appropriate in this discussion.  If
    it's believed there should be a seperate note for *GAME ENDINGS*
    it's easy enough to move it again.
    
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DIXIE1::WITMAN "Mickey Mouse FOREVER"                29 lines  17-AUG-1989 14:04
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    This note is being started to discuss *game endings*.  
    
    I was disapponted in the *ending* of ULTIMA for several reasons.
    
    First, I hadn't read the game info well enough to understand that
    the intention was to *seal* EXODUS.  I guess I expected to *defeat*
    someone.
    
    Second, in other games there is someone to save which gives a sense
    of accomplishment.  Though with ULTIMA you've *saved* the country
    there isn't that *one* person (usually a princess) that applauds
    your victory.
    
    Third, though the ULTIMAN end is a suprise I didn't find it really
    dramatic.  Especially in light of the perserverence that was needed
    to complete the adventure.
    
    Some questions I might raise are:
    
    Has anyone worried about the ending?
    
    What information on the game box might give a hint about it's end?
    
    Have I played too many games and are now getting to analytical?
    
    What makes a good ending?
    
    What game/games have the best ending?