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Title:Nintendo Game Systems
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Created:Tue Oct 20 1987
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286.0. "The Guardian Legend" by SAHQ::SCHULTZ (Orcas & Dolphins: Humans of the Sea) Mon Jun 19 1989 16:24

    Just got this game for fathers day over the weekend.  Borderbund
    has always had the reputation with their games for the personal
    computer that they somehow get more out of the machine than 90%
    of the rest of the software manufacturers.  Well, at least with
    The Guardian Legend, that reputation remains intact!  I have never
    seen so many objects on the screen move so quickly and without flicker
    or slow  down as this game allows.  I think they must somehow of
    enhanced the NES with some on cartridge hardware that handles movement
    of the characters and the objects that they as well as you hurdle
    in every direction.  The games instructions could have been better
    but after 1/2 hour or so what they do not cover is filled in with
    game play.  An excellent effort and on a scale of 1-10, I give it
    an 8.5.
    
    Craig
    
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286.1Guardian of what?CXCAD::SOMERSFri Jul 21 1989 12:335
    Could you describe this game? Is it an adventure game like Link
    or a shoot-em-up game? I looked at the back of the box, but I
    couldn't get a feel for what it was like.
    
                                                  Thanks, Eric.
286.2What it is...SAHQ::SCHULTZOrcas & Dolphins: Humans of the SeaFri Jul 21 1989 13:3822
    This is a blow-your-socks-off shoot'em up game.  You are a hero
    from the plannet Earth which has flown to this sinister looking
    world which just happens to be on an collision course with your
    home plannet (hence, your reason for being here).  You find a once
    beautiful world who's population has fled or been destroyed by the
    monsters which now control the world.  They however hid their most
    powerful weapons and supplies from the monsters in the corridors
    of the plannet.  You have to destroy the monsters which inhabit
    the plannet before they infest the Earth.
    
    This is the general jist of the game.  You, (the character that
    has been sent to investigate and destroy the approaching menace)
    will become the Guardian Legend if you are successful.  As I mentioned
    in the first note, this game has some extrodanary graphics and the
    best object movement without flicker or slow down that I have seen
    in a home video game (dozens of nasties moving and comming at you!)
    
    Rating at least an 8.5 to 9 (scale of 1-10).  It is quite addictive
    and worth at least a rental try whether you are into shoot'em games
    or not!
    
    Craig
286.3I like this game...CASPRO::MINEZZITue Aug 15 1989 11:0117
    
    
    re -.1
    
    I agree, I rented this game this past weekend and thought that the
    graphics were great, and the game story was very good.
    
    I also like the fact that the game presented a "mixed" main characture
    when you are in the planet you are a figure, and when you enter
    the corridors you turn into a space ship.
    
    Also, the game has alot of different wepons, and keys are needed
    to enter certain sections of the map.
    
    Good game,  8+.
    
    Ron.
286.4Any advice on Corridor 3 ?MOOV01::BENOITWed Sep 27 1989 13:0019
    I've been playing this game for a few weeks and I think it's great!
    Lots of action AND strategy.
    
    I haven't been able to get to the end of Corridor 3 and could use
    some advice.
    
    <possible spoiler follows>
    
    
    
    I get to the monster at the end of Corridor 3 with full energy (level
    12) and power chips (400), but I get wiped out pretty quickly.  Can't
    seem to totally avoid the "rails" and "bubbles."  I've used the Enemy
    Eraser to destroy the "bubbles" after they make it very difficult to
    maneuver.  Unfortunately none of them turn into hearts or chips to
    restore energy.  Does anyway know of a way to shoot the "bubbles"?
    
    
    
286.5ManeuversDNEAST::PURNELL_CHRINintendo Madness....Tue Oct 03 1989 12:0911
    re -1
    
    spoiler:
    
    I also had trouble with Corridor 3 at first......the trick was to
    travel in a "figure-8" and fire!
    
    Currently have 1600 in chip power and most of my weapons are at power 3.
    I think I have all of my map and only a few more seals to close!!
    
    							* Chris *
286.6SEAL 21DNEAST::PURNELL_CHRINintendo Madness....Wed Oct 11 1989 17:0820
    ** UPDATE **
    
    	I am now at Corridor 21! Chip power is at 4000 and weapons are at
    	Power 3.
    
    	After sealing 20 and entering 21: <somewhat_of_a_spoiler>
    
    
    	You fly down and fight 5 or 6 of the boss characters from previous
    	seals but not at the strength they were when you first met up
        with'm.  After beating the boss character of Seal 21....you are
    	shown flying away from the planet as it blows up....And you think
    	it's over, but it's not!!!!
    
    	You meet up with another boss character, and am I having a time
    	with this guy!!!  Don't know what follows, but will keep you posted!
    
    
    
    						* Chris *
286.7Lost in Corridor 9!MFGMEM::BENOITFri Oct 13 1989 14:1018
    
    Anyone out there still playing "Guardian"?
    
    I was finally able to close up Corridor 3!!  and closed up 
    several other corridors as well.  Now I'm stuck again at
    Corridor 9!
    
    This is the corridor in the upper left corner of the planet.
    
    Occasionally I can make it to the monster at the end of the
    corridor by using all my Enemy Erasers.  But I can't seem to 
    make a dent in the monster.  He's the one who spits out
    skeleton heads that home in on you, and bars that trash your
    power level.
    
    Any hints on how to do this beast in would be greatly
    appreciated.
    
286.8Try the Figure 8, It worked for me in 3.DNEAST::PURNELL_CHRINintendo Madness....Fri Oct 13 1989 15:3712
    Lost in Corridor 9 -
    
    	I'll tell you right now, try and save your enemy erasers, you will
    definitely need them later on.....
    	As far as seal 9, I don't recall which of the monsters you're
    talking about, but will plug it in tonite and see what I can come up 
    with!
    
    	I'm still trying to beat the BIG GUY at Corridor 21!!!!!!
    
    
    						* Chris *
286.9Can't open seal #4USHS05::MURPHYDark AngelFri Oct 20 1989 15:226
    Can someone please help me? I can't seem to get seal #4 to open.
    This is the one in the upper right hand corner. The message board
    said that #4 could not be opened and to ask the blue creature for
    help several times. How do I ask for help? I seem to be stuck and 
    can't go any further without opening this corridor. Any help would 
    be greatly appreciated. Dan Murphy
286.10Repetition....DNEAST::PURNELL_CHRINintendo Madness....Mon Oct 23 1989 10:048
    I think the "Blue" furry guy is somewhat deaf: <spoiler>
    
    
    You have to enter and exit 5 or 6 times before the seal will open.
    
    
    
    						* Chris *
286.11Info. on corridor 9 w/ other questions.TLE::FUELLEMANNBuy a VAX for Christmas.Thu Nov 09 1989 08:5723
    
    Re: Corridor 9. is "easy".
    
    Also,
    
    	How do you survive in corridor 20, let alone fight
    the monster at the end of it??  It seems to be the 
    hardest challenge except for the monster after the 
    planet is destroyed.
    
    				-Andy
    
    			<spoiler on 9>
    
    
    	To defeat the BEM (bug eyed monster) in corridor 9,
    you have to get up close and personal and hit it from the 
    side using your cutter laser.  (This was learned after 
    MUCH experimentation.)   
    
    p.s. 
    
    	Save your enemy erasers for later.
286.12Final StageDNEAST::PURNELL_CHRINintendo Madness....Tue Nov 21 1989 10:239
    I agree...That swinging arm guy after you destroy the planet is down
    right TOUGH!
    
    I haven't beat him yet....but I haven't given up!!  I haven't played 
    in a while (just moved into a new house!) and will start back at it
    soon!
    
    
    						* Chris *
286.13I did beat the big ^%&$#@#@!TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Tue Nov 21 1989 11:0414
    
    	I did beat the big guy after the end of the planet.
    	The ending is pretty good. . . 
    
    	I have gone on to Adventures of Link. . . 
    		And I thought Guardian Legend was tough. . . 	
    
    				-Andy
    
    	<possible spoiler on last BEM>
    
    
    	When all else fails, use fireballs. (Lots and lots of 'em ;-))
    
286.14FelicitationsHOCUS::LANDRONBring Back Those Doo WoppsTue Nov 21 1989 15:303
    Hey Chris,
    	Good luck on your new house (and the game)!
    					Mich
286.15You Guys Are FAST (Moved by Moderator)MOMAX1::PILOTTEIt just keeps getting better!Tue Jan 02 1990 16:3336
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Note 384.0                     THE GUARDIAN LEDGIN                       1 reply
TEMPE1::KISTLER                                      12 lines   2-JAN-1990 12:59
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    This note is for the discussion of The Guardian Ledgin.
         I got this game for Christmas and it is great. It has a password
    frature which is indespensable. There 20 corridors that you have to 
    work your way thru and dispatch of the creatures in each one in
    corridors 1-10 you pick up keys to let you into other areas of the
    world where you find the corridors. It is a  bit like zelda in that 
    a map might help you out. The graphics are great and the action is fast
    and furrious. on a scale of 1-10 this would have to be a 9 to 9 1/2
    I snuck it before Christmas and am now working my thru the tenth and
    twentyth corrodors. hopefully tonight I will save the world.
    
    Kendall
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DNEAST::PURNELL_CHRI "Nintendo Madness...."          13 lines   2-JAN-1990 13:18
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    	DIR/TITLE="GUARDIAN" would have shown:
    
    		NOTE 286 as Guardian Legend!
    
    
    			Mr. Moderator, do your duty!
    
    By the way, the game is excellent!!
    
    							* Chris *
286.16Power Chip DilemmaDELREY::UCCI_SAThu Jan 04 1990 10:589
    I just started playing this game.  I am trying to defeat the big
    guy at the end of Corridor 2.
    
    My question is:  How do I increase my power chip capacity past 100??
    
    I don't seem to be getting tougher.  I have about 8 weapons already.
    What am I missing????
    
    Sandie
286.17Chip BoosterDNEAST::PURNELL_CHRINintendo Madness....Thu Jan 04 1990 11:2812
    Sandie,
    
    	It's a matter of traveling through the rooms and destroying the 
    	Gold Cones.  Hidden in some of these are Smiling Red Furry Guys
    	that give you that added boost!
    
    	Another way is to beat some of those "boss" characters... the ones
    	that cordon off the room!!
    
    						Hope this helps!
    
    							 * Chris *
286.18Dummy needs help!DELREY::UCCI_SAThu Jan 11 1990 10:1522
    Frustration is WINNING.
    
    I am embarrassed to tell you that I have been playing this game
    for a week now and I have only closed corridor 1.
    
    HELP!!!!
    
    How do you kill the scorpion-thing at the end of corridor 2?
    
    I've gotten to the end of Corridor 11 and 12 and can't kill those
    things either?  Am I supposed to go from Corr 1 to 2 to 3, etc
    or can I kill of 11 and 12 first?
    
    After closing Corr 1,  I explored all the new territory and ran
    into 2 blue crabs in 2 different areas.  Believe it or not, I
    can't kill them either.  Do they have something I need before I
    go in Corr 2, 11, or 12?
    
    I've about had it...........ALL SPOILERS welcome.
    
    Sandie_who_may_have_a_nintendo_cartridge_to_sell_real_soon_if_I_
           don't_throw_it_against_the_wall_first
286.19Answers and lots of spoilers. . . .TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Thu Jan 11 1990 10:3940
    
    Help is on the way. . . . 
    
    				-Andy
    
    			<Lots'a Spoilers>
    
    
    >>>>How do you kill the scorpion-thing at the end of corridor 2?
    
    	The scorpion thing is called a Crawdaddy.  The claws block your 
    	forward firing weapons.  Shoot the claws that it throws at you 
    	to get power chips to recharge your damage. (I think)
    
    	By this time you should have Fireballs so you can burn right
    	through the BEM. (Bug Eyed Monster)
    
    >>>>I've gotten to the end of Corridor 11 and 12 and can't kill those
    >>>>things either?  Am I supposed to go from Corr 1 to 2 to 3, etc
    >>>>or can I kill of 11 and 12 first?
    
    	You do not have to go in sequence, although it is easier.  Nuke the
    	BEM in Corridor 11 first.  The BEM in Corridor 12 is VERY NASTY. 
    	It spits out strings that nuke your power level.  Just wait till
    	you meet the red version of this guy in Corridor 3. . . .  
    
    >>>>After closing Corr 1,  I explored all the new territory and ran
    >>>>into 2 blue crabs in 2 different areas.  Believe it or not, I
    >>>>can't kill them either.  Do they have something I need before I
    >>>>go in Corr 2, 11, or 12?
    
    	Yes. Yes. Yes.  There should be 2 monsters that have to be killed
    	each ares of the surface complex.  In your case you are facing two
    	blue crabs and two round crab things.  The Blue crabs can be killed
    	by getting next to them and stabbing them w/ your cutter laser.
    	Each of these monsters has a VERY useful item you need.  These
    	types of monsters are present in the rooms where the alarms go off
    	and green pyramids appear cutting off your escape.  I usually call
    	these rooms challenge rooms for lack of a better term.
    
286.20Lots & Lots of Enemy ErasersENOVAX::MCGRORYTemporarily derailed...Fri Jan 12 1990 13:3542
    
    We (the house) got Guardian Legend for X-mas and I think it's GREAT!!!
    My husband is as hooked with this as he was with Zelda. Can't seem to
    get into Adventures of LINK though. Any other simular games worth
    trying? 
    
    Anyway, I spend more time watching than playing. I don't seem to have
    the hand-eye coordination my husband and son do. So I do the maping out
    and keep track of stuff for them. Then I play when no ones around so I
    don't have to hear " Oh that's easy, you want me to kill it for you?".
    
    I do have a spoiler for you all. I haven't seen much in this file
    regarding the ENEMY ERASER. You get 20 of them somewhere after the
    second key. However, we have figured out how to replenish them and even
    get more. Spoiler to follow........
    
    
    
    .......go to one of the spider that multiplies and start fireing. Don't 
    ever kill them all off or leave the room. Just keep fireing. Hearts, blue
    and red balls will show up, and you can pick these up as you need them,
    but eventually, an ENEMY ERASER will appear. This will give you twenty
    of them. 
    
    Another SPOILER.............
    
    
    
    .......after you get twenty, just keep fireing at the spiders. You can
    continue this for as many ENEMY ERASERS as you want. THIS TAKES TIME
    but does a great job of racking up the points, which works in your
    favor also. I have collected as many as 120 ENEMY ERASERS aftering
    entering the room. If you leave the room, you just have to start
    killing the spiders all over again. 
    
    Have fun.
    
    Amy
    
    
    
    
286.21Corr 3 & 11 .. NightmaresDELREY::UCCI_SASat Jan 13 1990 12:4314
    Stuck again!!  I've sealed Corr 12 and 13 BUT..........
    
    I just can't get that guy in Corr 3!!!  Same as the guy in 11 and I
    can't get him either..  They are round and throw stings at you that
    sap your energy.  They also spit bubbles and they go from side to
    side on the screen.
    
    Any SPOILERs on what to use to kill these guys would be greatly
    appreciated.  I'm stuck and can't go anywhere else until I get
    these guys.
    
    HELP.....
    
    Sandie
286.22Keep on trying w/ some hints.TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Sun Jan 14 1990 11:2522
    
    re -1
    
    	Yes it is VERY Hard to best these guys. . . 
    
    	But I found out one way to do this.   I only found this out
    	after about 30 tries or so with the BEM in corridor 3.
    
    					-Andy
    
    		<spoiler>
    
    
    	Fly like your life depended on it. . . .
    
    	Don't look at it. . . .
    
    	Just look at the strings it throws at you. . . 
    
    	Worry about flying first and shooting (and hitting) later . . .
    
    	Eventually it will die.
286.23BOSHOG::LEWISMon Jan 15 1990 09:068
    Re: .19
    
    Is the "cutter laser" the thing that looks like a sword?
    
    
    
    Thx
    Bob
286.24YesTLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Mon Jan 15 1990 09:205
    
    
    Yes it is.
    
    				-Andy
286.25BOSHOG::LEWISMon Jan 15 1990 09:476
    Thanks....I'd tried it before but always got wasted!  I'll go
    and try again!
    
    
    
    Bob
286.26PIGGY::LEWISMon Jan 22 1990 09:0015
    I need a spoiler, if there is one, for finishing corridor #3.  I've
    closed all the other corridors I can get to and now can't go any
    further without another key....which, I assume, will come with closing
    corridor three.  Do you have to outlast, or outblast, the creature
    at the end of #3?  
    
    Also, is it necessary to buy any of the things offered along the
    way, or do you get all the necessary weapons from defeating the
    various creatures?
    
    Any help appreciated.
    
    
    
    
286.27No easy way out.TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Mon Jan 22 1990 09:2111
    
    There is no real spoiler on beating the guy in Corridor #3.  It takes
    lots of practice.  Somebody did mention that you could fly in a figure
    eight, but that did not really help me beat that monster.
    
    Also, you should buy the weapons that are for sale.  IF you do so, you
    get upgrades for your existing weapons.  There are three levels of
    power for each weapon that you have.  Of course the stronger the
    weapon, the more power chips it takes to run it.
    
    					-Andy
286.28PIGGY::LEWISMon Jan 22 1990 09:2911
    Thanks....I was hoping there was a trick to it.  Guess I'll have
    to go back through the first (main) maze and see what's there to
    buy.  Are the same things offered in more than one location?  I
    noticed that in some areas you can only choose one item, so if they
    aren't offered in another area how do you determine the best choice?
    
    Any other general tips about the game appreciated.
    
    
    Thx
    Bob
286.29More generalities.TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Mon Jan 22 1990 10:2410
    
    Sometimes there is duplication, but it is very limited.  Also,
    there are three power levels for each weapon system that you can use. 
    You can see this on your status board.  The first time you get a
    weapon, the border is blue, then green for the next upgrade, and
    finally red for max power.  (I am not too sure about the order for this
    though.)  Also the effects of the upgrades are quite spectacular.
    
    						-Andy
    
286.30PIGGY::LEWISMon Jan 22 1990 13:219
    Re: .29
    
    Is there any particular place that's best to go back to?  At the
    beginning I didn't have enough chips to buy anything in the early
    stages....I also don't want to waste a lot of time running around
    if I don't need to.
    
    
    Bob
286.31For your shopping convenience. . . . TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Mon Jan 22 1990 13:367
    
    Re: -1
    
    There are 5 shops in the main maze.  They are all clustered around
    the room where you start after entering the world.
    
    					-Andy
286.32Corridor 8 won't open!CSC32::MCCARTYBret McCarty CXO3-2/F3 CSC/CSTue Jan 30 1990 21:169
I seem to be having a problem with Corridor #8.  The darn door won't open!
I kick it, shoot it for a full 5 minutes, move the guy down to the corner of
the corridor and sulk for awhile, move in and out of the corridor (as with #7)
all to no avail.  

I finished this game once awhile back and sure don't recall having any problem
with this #@#^% door!  Anybody else experience this problem?

			-Bret
286.33Please move to note 286. . . . TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Wed Jan 31 1990 08:4510
    
    
    I thin he is talking about Guardian Legend.
    
    That is in note 286.*.
    
    				-Andy
    Hint on Corridor 8.
    
    	Try waveing at it.
286.34Corr 8 - How to kill???DELREY::UCCI_SAWed Jan 31 1990 15:269
    I had no problem getting into corridor 8 but..............
    
    For 2 days I have been trying to kill the blue thing with the big
    eye at the end of Corr. 8.
    
    Can anyone tell me which weapon is the best and if there is a
    strategy to defeat this  #*#*&^#^* thing?????
    
    Sandie
286.35Info on #8 and a correction.TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Thu Feb 01 1990 12:4417
    
    <Spoilers on corridor 8>
    
    
    I got the method for opening #8 up wrong.  You are supposed to 
    set your weapon to "no use" and fire.  Sorry about that.
    
    <To kill the guy in #8>
    
    
    Use Fireballs.  Try to stay to the side of him when he moves around
    and attempt to have your shots coincide with his retreats.
    
    This monster moves in a horizontal figure 8.  When he is pulling
    away from you, fire a fireball and this will stay on him longer and
    do more damage.
    
286.36NRADM1::LEWISWed Feb 07 1990 10:077
    How do you finish off the thing that looks like a flower and
    shoots little rocks (or something) at you (in a room, not one
    of the corridors)?
    
    
    Thx
    Bob
286.37Info on the flower monsterTLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Wed Feb 07 1990 12:4610
    
    Info behind formfeed. . . . 
    
    					-Andy
    
    	Fire your fireball and walk on top of it as it moves 
    	across the room.  The monster jumps all over you and
    	it takes lots of damage.  Keep firing at all times to
    	kill the little rocks.  You can get an upgrade for
    	the fireball in the next section of the corridors. 
286.38NRADM1::LEWISWed Feb 07 1990 13:247
    Thanks...that's an interesting method.  But it seems this
    bad guy kills you pretty quickly when he touches you....or
    does that not happen when you use this approach?
    
    
    Thx
    Bob
286.39There is plenty of damage to go around.TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Wed Feb 07 1990 15:257
    
    You still take damage, but the bad guy takes damage faster than
    you do. (Hopefully ;-))  I use this method in several parts of
    the game.
    
    						-Andy
    
286.40NRADM1::LEWISWed Feb 14 1990 09:4211
    Re: .39
    
    I briefly tried your suggestion but didn't get anywhere....
    couldn't stay with the fireball.
    
    Has anyone tried using the slow motion option with this game?  I
    haven't had a chance to try and was wondering if it works and can
    get you thru the tougher spots.
    
    
    Bob
286.41I really like this game!BRAT::SMITHNever say never, I always say.Mon Feb 26 1990 11:0514
    
    	I recently got this game and I really like it!  The graphics
    	are better than average, and your "mission" is interesting
    	and challenging.  The game is a good blend of shooting things
    	(arcade-type action?) and adventure, leaning towards shooting.
    	Through your exploring (and wasting things) you can accumulate
    	a fairly large and varied arsenal of weapons (among other
    	items, such as keys), certain ones working better on certain
    	adversaries.  When I first started playing, I thought I was
    	going to go blind after awhile, but fortunately only the very
    	beginning was that "high-speed approach". :-)
    
    								  Mike
    	
286.42Guardianship Within SightMFGMEM::BENOITThu Mar 01 1990 13:157
    How's everyone doing on this game?
    
    I still have to close up Corridors #10 and #20, and kill off
    a monster in a remaining challenge room.  These corridors are
    tough.  I usually can't even make it to the end of these to 
    meet up with the major beast.  Still working on it though.
    
286.43Finnished TGL, We think....SHARE::DOYLEFri Mar 09 1990 09:2217
     My brother has this game, and he's beaten it....... Maybe.
     This question is directed to anyone who's finnished this game.
    
     <End of Game Spoiler Warning>
    
    
    	Okay, the planet blows up, he beats the next monster, someone (girl?)
    comes on the screen and tells him he's wonderful...
     	Then he's given a password "TGL" <- "The Gaurdian Legend" and he 
    starts on another level?
    	What's up? did he finnish the game? Is there more or is this just a 
     repetitive sequence?
    
    							Thanks 
    								Ed
    
     	
286.44Yes you did finish.TLE::FUELLEMANNSoftware engineers put the &#039;soft&#039; in software.Fri Mar 09 1990 11:068
    
    Yes, you did finish the game.  
    
    The password "TGL" lets you run through all the corridor scenes in 
    the correct order.  This is alot harder than the ordinary game, as 
    you cannot kill off the easier monsters before you do the harder ones.
    
    							-Andy
286.45Corridors 20 and 21 -- HELP!MFGMEM::BENOITMon Jun 25 1990 12:2111
    I haven't played Guardian in a long time, but have decided to go back
    and finish it up.  For those who have completed the majority of the
    game,  how did you get through corridors 20 and 21?  I can't get to the
    end of these to face the "big" monsters.
    
    Also there are two challenge rooms in this area of the maze whose
    monsters do me in too quickly.  Any help with these either?
    
    Thanks,
    Mary
    
286.46Some helpTLE::FUELLEMANNConserve solar energy.Mon Jun 25 1990 14:0314
    
    Some help (behind FF).
    
    
    I used the two way laser.  This lets you hit the stuff that comes
    in from the side.  Also you will have to switch from that to the 
    enemy erasers and fireballs from time to time.  You have to be very
    quick just because of the sheer volume of bad guys.
    
    With the challenge rooms, which ones are you talking about?  The only
    room that I have problems is the one with the dinosaur head that flies
    around in it.  (To beat that one, use fireballs and aim real well.)
    
    							-Andy
286.47Need Help with Gorilla-Armed BEMMFGMEM::BENOITTue Jun 26 1990 10:339
    
    OK, I've closed Corridor 10 and 20, and defeated the beasts in the two
    remaining challenge rooms.  I can complete Corridor 21 ... but I can't
    make a dent in the last guy.  What weapon do you use?  I've tried the
    two-way laser, fireballs, the cutter laser, the weapon that shoots
    circular killer waves to the left and right, but nothing works.  I do
    inflict damage but I get trashed before I can kill the monster.  Any
    tips?
    
286.48Lots of hints and a big spoiler.TLE::FUELLEMANNConserve solar energy.Tue Jun 26 1990 11:3042
    
    Hint.
    
    Get up close and personal.
    
    Bigger hint behind FF.
    
    See what happens when you fly through the arms.
    
    Huge spoiler for the last BEM
    
    Do you want to read this. . . .
    
    
    The best way to kill this guy is to fly right in front of his mouth and
    use fireballs.  The reason is that if you hit his body you will take
    damage.  This also applies to his hands.  *HOWEVER*, you can fly through
    the arms and not get hurt.
    
    The closer you are to it, the higher your rate of fire and the quicker 
    it will die.  Ad it takes more damage, it will turn yellow and then
    red.  Once it is red, it should die soon.  (However you are usually
    close to death at this time too.)
    
    
                           /--------\
                           |        |
                           |   /\   |
                           |   \/   |
                          /   Bad    \
                         /  /\----/\  \
                         |  |      |  |
                         |  |<Safe>|  |
                         |  |<zone>|  |
                        ++  ++    ++  ++
                        |Bad |    |Bad | <---------Extended hands.
                        +----+    +----+
    
    
    Obviously when the hands are retracted, don't hang around.  Also, you
    have to be able to react quickly because it does move from side to side.
    
286.49Gratitude!MFGMEM::BENOITThu Jun 28 1990 12:556
    Thank you, thank you, thank you!
    
    I did him in last night!
    
    Mary
    
286.50Corr 8 RevisitedDELREY::UCCI_SADon&#039;t bunt. Aim out of the ballpark!Tue Sep 04 1990 14:047
    A while back someone had trouble opening Corr. 8.  I'm stuck there
    myself.  Note 286.33 gave a hint:  Wave at it.  Does anyone know what
    this means?  How do you wave in guardian legend?
    
    Major spoiler needed to get this darn Corridor 8 open!!
    
    Sandie
286.51.33 explained.TLE::FUELLEMANNConserve solar energy.Wed Sep 05 1990 09:578
    
    <*Big Spoiler*>
    
    
    Use the special weapon that fires a wave beam.  The symbol is a "))" or
    something like that.
    
    								-Andy
286.52Great price for great gameCNTROL::MACNEALPapa MacTue Jan 29 1991 09:525
    I just bought this game at Kaybee Toy & Hobby in the Greendale Mall,
    Worcester, MA for $19.99.  I'm having alot of fun with it.  If you
    liked Zelda and Link, I think you'll like this game.  I enjoy the added
    twist of the transformer character to switch between a human figure and
    a spacecraft.
286.53re .52 Right behind you3149::JAFFESat Mar 02 1991 16:3613
    Papa Mac,
    I must have baught the copy just behind yours. Its fun but hard on the 
    control fingers. I think I need an advantage controller for this game.
    I ahve manager to seal one corridor but I'm having a lot of trouble
    with one of the two crabs in the next two sections of the map. I ahve
    managed to build up to 150 and have lots of weapons but I am still
    light on experience. The book is garbage, especially one who has just
    played some of the best constructed and documented RPG games like final 
    fantasy and crystalis.
    
    Keep us up to date with yoru progress, I am sure I will need some help
    soon.
    Joel
286.54help in opening corridor 83149::JAFFEFri Mar 08 1991 10:027
    I can't seem to get corridor 8 open. I have closed everything else and
    can not find any clues which hint at how to oepn 8. This is the
    corridor in the south at the beginning of the area. I have tried
    everything that worked before, weapons, touch, waiting around, in and
    out, etc.
    
    Spoiler welcomed......
286.55I think I know this one.TLE::FUELLEMANNConserve solar energy.Fri Mar 08 1991 13:1614
    
    Try this. . . .
    
    
    
    This maybe a spoiler. . . .
    
    
    If my guess is right. . . .
    
    Set your special weapon to "No use" and fire.
    
    							-Andy
    
286.56Only through effort can one succeed.MAMIE::JAFFEMon Mar 11 1991 12:5511
    Thanks for the hint, you are indeed correct in how to open that seal.
    Faced with the probelm and no hint this weekend, I triumphed and found
    the soultion on my own. What I found at the end of corridor 8 was an
    even bigger probelm which took up most of my game play this weekend.
    Again, I triumphed after many many tries and tribulations. 
    
    I closed the two corridors in the upper left section of the universe
    and have tried only twice to close the two (9 and 20 I think) in the
    upper center of the universe. These two seem like the biggest challange
    yet, but I wont cry for help until I have given it some effort. Still
    a great game, especially for the money.
286.57It's not over yet.TLE::FUELLEMANNConserve solar energy.Mon Mar 11 1991 14:054
    
    No problem.  Just wait until you close corridors 9 and 20.  Heh Heh.
    
    							-Andy
286.58FINAL FRONTIERHOTWTR::HAGUE_LOAIM TO PLEASEFri Aug 02 1991 11:478
    HELP!!!
    I'm in corridor 21 (final one, I guess) I have killed all the nasties
    except the one after you leave the planet with the long arms.  I have
    tried everything.  A clue would be nice, a spoiler would be welcome.
    
    Thanks,
    Louise
    
286.59It's in hereOBLIX::MACNEALruck `n&#039; rollFri Aug 02 1991 14:102
    Louise, scan the replies in this topic.  Your question has been
    answered a couple of times.
286.60Tough opening sequence !!RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Tue Aug 20 1991 19:5610
    I must be the most inept Nintendo player in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    i have played this game for several hour now and still can't get
    through the opening sequence. I keep getting killed as I fly through
    an area where little hatches open up and what looks like bowling pins
    come flying at me. I am almost though the opening sequence at this time
    or are there still a lot of things to do. I hope to get a my first
    password soon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The graphics are great, I just
    have a slow trigger finger.
    
    Jim
286.61CNTROL::MACNEALruck `n&#039; rollWed Aug 21 1991 11:595
    �I am almost though the opening sequence at this time or are there still
    �a lot of things to do. 
    
    Once you get past this, you will get additional weapons and enter the
    mazes.
286.62Finally proceeding !!RAYBOK::COOPEROne-ton Tomato !Fri Oct 18 1991 12:5415
    Well, I finally made it through the first section after throwing the
    game in the corner for a few weeks. I hooked up my Advantage, set A
    and B to TURBO, and slashed my way to the surface of the planet. I
    have closed corridors 1,2,11, and 12 now and have figured out that
    I need to fight all the monsters that appear in rooms after you are
    sealed in by green blocks. (I was dodging them at first) There is
    one thing that isn't a crab that is giving me fits. It looks like
    a green flying eyeball. Every time I get sealed in the room with
    this guy he wastes me fast. The blue crabs are hard but beatable,
    this guy appears indestructable (I sure he is not though !! )
    Any tips on wasting this thing would be appreciated. 
        This is really a fun game but also very difficult for someone
    with slow reflexes !! 8^)
    
    Coop