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    Re .0:
    
    I do not think it is available anywhere yet.
    
    
    				-- edp

    Called nintendo they said it may be out by Febuary,
    
    		a little late for Christmas,
    			Pat..
    
    

Lets try and keep this conversation all within the same note.
    
    
    
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    Has anyone seen "Adventures of Link" yet? 
    Is it in fact out yet?
    
    
    Buster

    	I am getting a wierd response from one of the Townsfolk. I think
    it was the town northwest of the starting palace in the first section.
    The person responds " I AM ERROR ". Sounds fishy to me. Has anyone
    else seen this ?
    
    	p.s...Wow, what a difficult game !!! I've already died 90 times
    in one day !
    

    My Link game should be here later today, but for a quick fix why
    not call Nintendo out on the West Coast.  I think it is in Seattle.
    Hope this helps.
    
    Pat Cole

    Yeah, I found a guy in a town that said the exact same thing.  I
    might break down and call Nintendo tomorrow to see if this is a
    feature or a bug.
    
    Pat Cole

    Yeah, I also found the same guy in that town.
    
    I also have a question....
    I'v gone through the first palace and have finished it but to do
    this I had to go to the second palace and borrow a key to finish
    my quest in the first palace. Now in the second palace I think
    I'm short a key, or did I miss somthing along the way.
    
    And dose anyone know where the hammer is?
    
    stumpped.......................
    
    Dave Hood
    f/s

    RE: .7
    One of the town's people told me to use the keys only in the palaces
    you find them in.  I found the "I am ERROR" man too.  Think I will
    call Nintendo and see what the scoop is.  Hope it is relevant to
    the game and not some buggy cartridges that got out!  Maybe they'll
    replace them if they are?!
    
    I found the hammer.  Press return for spoiler..

    				Ron
    
    I think the hammer was in the cave on the Tantari Desert.

        Anyone willing to post the ordering information for mail order?
        Phone number(s), what cards are accepted, price, etc....
        
        Thanks,
        
        Andy
        

    Refer to Note 51.16 for the phone number to Compucentre in Ottowa
    Canada.  They take American Express, and that's about all I know.
    
    Possible Spoiler...
    
    I didn't find the hammer in the cave mentioned in the previous note.
    I did find a trophy that a lady in one of the towns was missing.
    Did I miss this hammer?
    
    Pat Cole

    I called Ottowa today. They know how hot the game is cause they told me
    they'd be happy to send me the game....the charge would be $75 for the 
    game and $35 for delivery.
    
    That's $110 for a game. I can wait.
    
    Mike

    Re: .11
    Yes, sorry I was mistaken about the hammer.  But that's what it
    looked like to me.  Please forgive!
    
    << Now a possible spoiler >>  accurate this time ;-)
    
    A little old lady in Ruto Town sold me:
    
    Hammer....
    Spectacle....
    Rock...
    Death Mtn...
    
    Exactly like that.  Seems to be a clue, but I haven't found it yet!
    But I haven't given up either!!
    I love this game!!!

    Hey everyone!
    I've found something!
    Spoilers - bewarned!
    
    Are you sure you want the spoiler?
    
    I found the GLOVE!
    
    I could get damp where it's found!
    Has anyone found the HAMMER yet?  Spoilers are welcome!
    
    The Sunbelt Kid

    	The hammer is a long way off if the general map in the booklet
    is accurate. I'm finishing up the second palace now and am still
    far away from the mountain mentioned by the old woman.
    	I'm confused about the keys. The booklet says not to forget
    THE KEY before leaving a palace. I never saw an extra one in the
    first palace, and now I can't get back in. Is there a key that lets
    you back into a palace after you have finished it ? 
    	I hope these aren't spoilers. They are discussed in the booklet.

	I'd like to respond to a few of the earlier notes.

< Note 41.12 >
>                             -< Canadian Ripoff! >-
>
>    I called Ottowa today. They know how hot the game is cause they told me
>    they'd be happy to send me the game....the charge would be $75 for the 
>    game and $35 for delivery.
>    
>    That's $110 for a game. I can wait.
>    
>    Mike
>
	
	Please remember that those are Canadian $, each only worth 81c US.
	It's not as bad as you might think.

	PS (for the Major) Believe me now?  -).


<various>

	Just wait, "I AM ERROR" is a feature and all will become clear
	after a while.  Based on my experience, a long while.




	My son (15) spends most of his waking time playing this and now has 
	7 sword, 6 magic and 8 life.  He's only been to 5 towns and 
	finished three palaces.

	And if you think it's hard now just wait till later.  You aint seen
	nothing yet.


	Have fun.
		Bob

    Okay Bob I believe you but....
    
    ...81% of $110 is still too high for me ($88). I was ready to go as
    high as maybe $55-60 but that's ridiculous. I can wait until October
    when it comes around here...it sounds like it will go for between $50
    and $60 when it arrives....and by then it'll be a challenge for me to
    catch up to all you guys.
    
    Maj

    	Please hint - no spoilers !
    
    	I finished the second palace and can't find anywhere to go.
    Is there a way across the river in the rivertown and is that what
    I should be looking for ? I have spent HOURS searching the towns
    and every square inch of accessable terrain and can't find a way
    to get to someplace new. If it is the river, please HINT if possible.
    

    Help please.....
    
    Finished the first palace and moved onto the second, But can't
    find a key to get to the statue at the end of the coridor.
    
    I have found the glove, candle, hammer, life postion, sword master,
    jump, sheild, and our next is at 2200. and have found 4 towns so
    far.
    
    dave
    

    Re: .21 How about a spoiler on how you found the hammer??
    
    Ron

    	Semi-spoiler on hammer :
    
    
    	You will need to cross the river in the watertown in order to
    reach the mountains that have the hammer. Once in the mountains
    you should have no problem finding them.
    	To answer my own note, I was on the right track but not careful
    enough. I finally got across the river.
    

    	r.e. 41.20
    
    	Semi-spoiler on keys:
    
    
    	Bad news - you'd better start over. The hint said to use the
    keys in the palace you find them in. For good reason. There are
    just enough keys to open the doors. If you borrow from another as
    you have, you will end up one short in each palace, forcing you
    to find the next one before finishing the first. The hammer will
    not reopen a finished palace so there is no way to get that key
    back. There was some mention in the book of a master key. I haven't
    seen it yet, but I suppose you could wait and hope to find it.
    

    Just a little reminder to make sure everyone remembers that this note
    is for "Link" and not "Zelda".
    
    M

    I think you found the....
    
    <spoiler>
    
     doll that is supposed to increase Link's life level by one level
    or something like that.
    
    Pat Cole

    After a lot of searching I've finaly have all the magic, and weapons
    that link can have. But let me tell you that It's still not easy
    to get around. One more palace to go and I'm done. Dose anyone
    know if there's a second quest?
    

    I also am trying to locate where I can get one. My son's birthday
    is in a couple weeks, and that's what he wants. I've called a few
    places, with no success. I live in Hudson, MA, and work in Littleton,
    MA.
    
    Any information will be appreciated.
    
    Bob

I ordered the cartridge through Ottawa, and got the "less than 24 hours
delivery". BTW...they will also send it regular mail for only $5 more than
the price of the cartridge if you are not in a hurry.

This is an incredible game...well worth the money.

    I finally finsihed the first pass thorugh the game. The great palace 
    is bizarre and needs to be mapped to find your way around. The ending
    is different then any other game I've played. I've started a second
    pass through the game but it seems that every thing is in the same
    place so far. 
    
    It was well worth the cost.
    
    NEED a hint send mail:  usrcv1::hood
    and I'll try to help.
    
    dave
    

	My son (Kevin 15) set out to see how far he could go with the 
	fewest Links.  His first objective was to get as powerful a Link as 
	possible.  He managed too get to 8 attack, magic and life and only 
	lost 1 Link (3 lives).  Now he can visit the first few castles with 
	little regard for the denizens thereof.

	Notice how many of the guys from Zelda have come back to haunt 
	Link.

	Now if only I could get near it to try!

Spoiler follows regarding the keys....



the keys are only useful for the first couple of cathedrals...after that if you have
received FAIRY power, you can use that to fly right through the gates instead
of using a key. Turns out to be pretty useful. If you already have a key,
whenever you go through a door (even as a fairy) you will use the key that you
already have, there is no way to keep it!

    WHERE DO I GET IT????  I didn't even know it was out!!!!!
    
    Holly
    

    
    Come on Holly, you should know where to get it. 8-)
    
    		
    			Scott.
    

    This game is great. Frustrating, but great...but thats the challenge
    of it. I could use some help on how to get to the third temple on
    the island. I have the jump magic but when I found the tunnel just
    south of the kings grave I was not able to jump high enough to get
    to the top of the ledge, even with the jump magic. All help appreciated
    even a spoiler is welcome.
    
    Also, regarding the kings grave. Am I supposed to be able to get
    the cross there or something else? I have tried walking all around
    the tomb, talking to the old lady who just says its the kings grave
    and hitting everywhere with my sword but cannot find the cross or
    anything else. Some help here needed also.
    
    As far as power goes I have the shield, jump and life magic. Are
    there any others I should get in the western part of Hyrule. I have
    the candle, glove and hammer. Any others to get there also. I have
    completed the first and second temple.
    
    This game was well worth the cost of getting it from Ottawa. I got
    the next to the last one from Compucentre. Ordered it thursday around
    10 A.M. and had it Fed Expressed. It arrived at my house 8:30 A.M.
    the next morning. We haven't stopped playing it since. Got so involved
    I pulled an all nighter Saturday til Sunday around 9 A.M. All you
    veteran linkers can appreciate that.
    
    Thanks for any help received.
    
    Aloha
    
    Hawaii_Harry
    

    RE: .37
    
    VERY FUNNY SCOTT!!! 8^)
    
    I want this game!!  
    
    Holly
    

re: < Note 41.38 >

	You don't have enough magic spells yet.  Keep looking around
	(but away from Kings tomb) to get the magic you need.  Read 
	the list of available spells in the instructions and think 
	about which one might help you get over the obstacle.


re: < Note 41.39 >

	Read notes 51.* for where Link can be found.

Good Luck,
	  Bob

    I just got off the phone with the Nintendo game play assistance
    people. They told me that they cannot provide any help on the
    "Adventure of Link" as it has not been released in the U.S. yet.
    It was sold by the Japan makers to Mattel Games in Canada who released
    it. They don't have a games hotline so looks like no help from Nintendo
    til it comes out in the U.S. They estimate that in late December
    or early January. They won't even provide support to people in Canada
    calling them.
    
    Looks like us linksters have got to be our own games help hotline.
    BTW, they also informed me that they just released Super Mario Bros.
    II in the U.S. Toys R Us here in Georgia tells me they've been informed
    that they won't get it til November. I'm checking on a source now
    and will post a note if it turns out good. 
    
    Aloha
    
    Hawaii_Harry
    

    I just need a little help,
    
    I am lacking the last heart case, and the Thunder magic. I could
    use a little help finding them. I have everything else and completed
    all but the last castle. 
    
    Thanks
    
    Ray
    

    Re .41:
    
    You might try to locate Mattel Games in Canada and ask them for help.
    
    
    				-- edp 

This is really a great game...I only wish that when you died in a cathedral
that you could start back up in that same cathedral (as you did in zelda
I) instead of at the very beginning each time. 

Only one cathedral and thunder to find....

    This game is more addictive than "The Legend Of Zelda". I thought
    by now after a dozen or so different games under my belt that I'd
    be a little more blase' about it but not so. I'm making slow but
    steady progress. Have got my power up to 6 attack, 6 magic and 7
    life. I found the fairy magic and fire magic. Made it to east Hyrule
    and am working on the fourth temple. Have gotten to the guardian.
    He looks like some kind of ghost and he's getting me every time.
    Need some help here on zapping this dude.
            
    Also, there's a spider like creature blocking the way to the south
    and nothing I have will move him out of the way. I have the candle,
    hammer, glove, raft and boots. Whats going to do the trick for this thing.
    I found the first container heart in east Hyrule. That makes three
    so far. Anybody know many more container hearts there are in this
    game?
    
    I have used the hammer to clear out some of the forest but it fills
    back up when you leave it. I haven't found anything under the forest
    yet when I clear it. Is there something under there somewhere?
    
    I haven't heard any response on the second quest and if there is
    one and its different than the first or not. Lets hear it from the
    Linkmasters out there. God I hope there is. Don't know what I'd
    do if I had to wait another year for Zelda III after completing
    this game.
    
    Aloha
    
    Hawaii_Harry
     

>>... Made it to east Hyrule and am working on the fourth temple. 
>>   {Have gotten to the guardian. He looks like some kind of ghost and 
>>    he's getting me every time.

The way I deafeated this guy was with REFLECT. Look it up in the book. If
you have it, defeating this guy is almost trivial, without it you are in 
trouble. Search around to find reflrect first (should be in a town).

            
>>    Also, there's a spider like creature blocking the way to the south
>>    and nothing I have will move him out of the way. 

The only way I know to get rid of the spider is to use the WHISTLE.
Again, if you don't have it, you do not get by him. Once you get by him
the game gets real interesting (hard!). Search around.


The game is really well constructed in that if you keep getting killed
or blocked you have missed something that you should be able to get
(and need to get) first. In general, going through a town once is never
sufficient. You will need to go through new towns and perhaps return
to old. Talk to everyone in the towns, and even empty room may have
things hidden.
    
     

    re .46
    
    Thanks. I figured I needed more magic. One of the townfolks says
    that one of the creatures hates noise. The problem I'm having getting
    the other magic items seems to be that I can only locate two towns
    once I cross the ocean on the raft. One is in the top left corner
    of east Hyrule and the other is just before you cross the bridge
    to the maze that leads to temple four. I've been through those two
    towns a number of times. I believe I got the upthrust capability
    and the boots in those towns, can't remember exactly. Some of the
    houses in the towns have closed doors and no chimneys and no people
    seem to come out. Do I need to find a way to get into these? I have
    been in all the caves I have found so far which haven't been many.
    Two or three.
    
    Will keep plugging away. Any help on where to locate the other magic
    powers appreciated. Does clearing out the forests with the hammer
    produce any results? I seem to get only one or two patches cleared
    before I get caught by an enemy and when I come back after the battle
    the forest is filled back again. Should I be spending time on this
    search process or is it a waste of time.
    
    Still haven't heard if there is a second quest thats different from
    the first. Hope there is. This is definitely the most challenging
    game I've played on so far. My 8 year old son Chris and I both love
    it. Its back to locating the triforce tonight.
    
    Hawaii_Harry
    

    Re .48
    
    Hey, rjk ole buddy.
    
    Soorryy!! This game gets you carried away. Your mind turns to mush
    on anything else at the moment. Its called LINKOMANIA!!.
    
    I just tried out my form feed for the first time on my DECmate.
    CTRL V and CTRL L. Lets see if it works.
    
    From now on all non published info will be in SPOILER and FORMFEED
    format. PROMISE!!
    
    Now will someone tell me if the is a second quest?
    
    Aloha
    
    H_H
    

    I need some help. I'm stuck in East Hyrule and I can't locate the
    REFLECT magic or the flute. I'm able to get to two towns. their
    names are "NABOORU" which is on the northwest side of East Hyrule
    and it has some clues like:
    
    <possible spoiler>
    
    "See a man in DARUNIA before the islands" and "The river devil eats
    those who are weak". Also "Jump in a hole in the palace if you go".
    The other town is called DARUNIA. The clues I have gotten from the
    townspeople are:
    
    <possible spoiler>
    
    "It is said that the east of NABOORU has..." and "The devil does
    not like noise". Also "Rescue the kidnapped child on the island"
    and "The palace has a false wall". I have found the:
    
    <possible spoiler>
    
    boots to walk on water, a heart container and I believe the fire
    magic in East Hyrule. I have been in temples four and five but 
    have not been able to progress without the REFLECT magic and the
    FLUTE. I have been to the island where temple five is but could
    not find a kidnapped child.
    
    Any help as to where these items are is desperately needed and greatly
    appreciated. I have been through both towns many times but can't
    locate any more items. I've tried walking over the land and clearing
    the forests but to no avail. Hints or spoilers are accepted.
    
    Patiently waiting for replies.
    
    H_H
    

    If you really want to know, I guess I can give you a few hints...
    
    Possible Spoiler...
    
    On the island with Palace #4, search around the lower right hand
    section.  You should find something very useful.  You might need
    fairy power, but I'm not sure.  I haven't played the game in a while.
    You should be able to continue after that.
    
    Pat Cole

    Re -1.
    Thanks for the tip. Last night I found that item. I have completed
    the first five temples. I found something interesting and would
    like to know if anyone else has encountered this. 
    
    All of the other temples turned to stone when the jewel was inserted
    in the statues head, but the fifth temple did not. In going through
    it I found a place where there was a wall separating me from a key.
    I could not get to it from another location or way and could not
    break through the wall. Has anyone had this occur? Even though the
    jewel is in the statue you can continue going in and out of the
    temple. The only thing that I see left in there is the key. Any
    hints appreciated.
    
    Now I need to find a way to get past the devil and I need to get
    an item to do that.
    
    H_H
    

    Could one of you super links help me.  I have finished the first
    4 palaces.  I have the following magic:
    SHIELD
    JUMP
    LIFE
    FAIRY
    FIRE
    REFLECT

    I have the following items:
    Candle
    Glove
    Raft
    Boots
    Whistle (or flute)
    Hammer

    I have one jewel left.
        
    Here is my problem - don't read on unless you've gotten this far:

    possible spoilers
    
    I have found the town with the little thing that says ...
    I tried it several times and it said "find heart over ocean", I
    don't know what that means.  I found the hidden town and the old
    man tells me to come back when I'm ready.  Ready for what?  A lady
    said to go east of "three eye rock".  Where is that?  I found three
    rocks together and went east.  I found a heart container.  I guess
    I figured that one out.
    
    I guess my question is, what does the old man in the hidden town
    want from me?  In the dead town I found a room that said that the
    Magic key of Kasuda,(I think that's right), says "...".  So what?
    What am I suppose to do with that?
    
    Major spoilers are welcome.  I've been stuck here for three days.
    At least I've gotten very good at killing the villains, but I'd
    really like to find the "SPELL" magic and then find the next castle.
    A friend of mine has already told me that.
    
    SPOILER
    
    You need the SPELL magic to find the next castle.
    Would someone please help me out?
    You can either reply here of send me mail.
    
    Boy, was this game worth the price!
    
    Ron - an aspiring Link    

    I have gotten some pointers if you read the other note - read on
    Possible spoilers
    
    It look like the whistle will help me find the next palace.
    I still don't know what the old man wants from me.  Finish the
    next palace perhaps?  Spoilers still welcome!
    
    Ron

Success at last I have saved the princess!!! Hyrule is saved!!!
 
This game was very challenging. My son Chris (age 8) and I worked as
a team on this to figure out the riddles and beat Gannon. It is 
absolutely necessary to make a map when you get to the great palace.
    
You must also make sure your power levels are high. We did it with 7
attack, 8 magic and 8 life. Any less and you will find it very
difficult to be successful.
    
Re -1. You're on the right track. Write down the clues and read them
over. Read the previous few notes. Things do flow in a logical order
and you need to get items before you can proceed to the next level of
play. Once you get past the devil things really get tougher. Persistence
will pay off. 
    
The ending is definitely different. To reveal much more would only
spoil it for the player. Now I know why I didn't get replies to some
of my previous notes requests.
    
Just hang in there, follow the clues, think and be creative and try
different things. Persistence will pay off.
    
    
A happy Linkmaster who has temporarily been cured of LINKOMANIA!!
    
Aloha
    
    Hawaii_Harry
                                                                               
                 
    

    
    Here's where I am now. Can anybody help me find the flute?
    
    On the fourth cathedral. I have the candle, raft, boots and hammer.
    I have all powers except thunder and spell. All my abilities are
    at level 6.
    
    Thanks.
    
    						Tom C.
    
    

     I have  also  purchased  Zelda  II  from Ottowa. So far so good. I have
completed  level 1 and working on two. I have the candle and the glove fairy
magic  jump  magic,  but I cannot seem to find life magic. I think I need to
find the mirror and show it to the land in town But I cannot find the mirror
HELP !!!

			
					Joe

    	You dont have to look FAR for the mirror. You DO have to look
    high and low for it.

    Hallo all nintendo players !
    I have a problem finding the cross in Link. Can anybody please help
    me with a hint. Ive got all magic,power,attack and all magic except
    for the cross. I have closed 3 castles and looked thru the other
    three but not closed them yet (maybe i need the points later). Ive
    been into the kings grave and tried all magic but nothing works.
    Also found another grave south of kings grave but it is empty (there
    was red magic in it the first time). My question is:
    
    1. Were is the cross and how to get it ?
    
    2. Is it anything more about the other grave south of kings grave?
    
    PS. I cant get thru the invisible monsters without the cross (Ive
        tried for 2 weeks now ).
    DS.
    
    Please help me /Isak of Sweden  

    Link was released today in USA!
    
    Ray T.

    Re -59. Its been awhile since I touched the game but I believe you
    will find the cross..
    
    (SPOILER FOLLOWS)
    
    In the sixth castle (palace, temple, whatever they are called).
    You have to fight a couple of nasty characters and beat them to
    get to the area of the cross.
    
    The castles will not turn to stone if you have not taken the treasures,
    even after you put the crystal in the statues head. So if you don't
    see a castle turn to stone after you leave it you can be sure there's
    something else in there you need to get.
    
    Aloha
    
    H_H
    

    	Okay I need help in the town of Darunia. 
    
    I haven't been able to get into the building which says "There is
    someone behind the door". I believe this is where the "powerful
    knight who lives in the town is". Any help would be appreciated.
    
    	-Gary
    

    
      .62 (Possible spoiler)
    
       How high can you jump!!!!! 
       
    
       Get on the roof....use the chimney
     
    

    I got to the castle  on the island but I seem to have run into a
    dead end.I got the raft that was supposed to be there by the message
    from a town person. Is that all there is in that castle or did I
    miss somthing?
    		Wayne

    re .64 
    
    I need help with exactly the same thing!
    

     rep.65
    
     While running around a later castle I fell into a pit or fire.Instead
    of dying,I fell down a large hole into another tunnel... I could
    not play last as I had too much to do. I am going to try that in
    the "suspect" castle!
    
    		Wayne

    I am stuck at one point in Link.  
    
    Possible spoiler question...
    
    
    
    I have one castle left and I got to the "Dead Town" but can't find 
    what I need to be able, "spell magic" I think.  I looked all around 
    but I just can't find it, can somebody give me a clue?  I did look 
    where they told me to.
    
    
    Don

    CAN ANYONE HELP ME IN LOCATING THE STATUE IN TEMPLE 6? ALL I DO
    IS FALL DOWN ALOT OF HOLES. I'VE FOUND THE CROSS. ALSO, I NEED HELP
    LOCATING THE MAGIC KEY(I'M CURRENTLY USING FAIRY POWER) AND HIDDEN
    TOWN. I'VE GONE TO THE DEAD TOWN THAT TELLS ME TO LOOK EAST.I HAVE
    GONE THROUGH THE CAVE ABOVE THE 3 ROCKS BUT CAN'T FIND THE HIDDEN
    TOWN IN THE WOODS. DO I NEED SOMETHING SPECIAL TO LOCATE THE TOWN?
    IF I DO, WHERE CAN I FIND IT. ANY HINTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
    
    
    AL

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    how do you get the Thunder Magic?
    
    And how do you get the Spell Magic?
    

    
      .67,68.69  These 3 replies are all somewhat tied together ???
      
        Hidden town spoiler next
    
        The hidden town is found by clearing the forest with the hammer.
    You can't just walk into the woods to find it as some items were
    before.
        It is in the small forest area to the east after going thru
    a cave.
    
    
      Last two spells and magic key spoiler next
    

      The length of your Magic line is now very important. It must be
    7 segments. If it is then once your explore/talk in the Hidden town
    and analyze all the clues given you should be able to get all you
    need. If you have only six segments then you missed a magic bottle.
    Chances are the one you missed is in the simple maze were you found
    the kidnapped/lost child  

                                                          RONM
    

    Ok guys, I've found five castles.  How do I find the 6th one?
    
    Also, How the H*ll do you kill the monster in the fifth castle??
    (that red ghost like guy)
    
    Any and all spoilers MORE than welcome!!!
    
    Holly 
    

    Spoiler for 5th castle....
    
    
    
    I used REFLECT magic with good results.
    
    
    
    Don

    Does anyone know what the maximum levels for attack, magic, and 
    life are?  I haven't seen anything higher than eight mentioned
    in this note.  Also once you've attained the max. level are 
    experience points meaningless?
    
    Thanks 
    
    JR

    
          From what I read in the instruction booklet, the maximum
          level for attack, magic and life is 8. Once you have reached
          the maximum levels, the experience points work toward gaining
          you extra Links.  It definitely pays to work those levels
          up.
    
    -rick

    
    	I WON!!!
    
    	I've had the game for about two weeks now, and after resisting to
    look at all the tips, I won. I'm now on the second round, and it's not
    any harder!!! Nothing seems to be changed. 
    	I'm on the last palace, and I'll report if anything changes in the
    ending or if the third round is any harder.
    
    				Either the games are getting easier or...
    						Pat..

    Ok, I killed the monster in 5.  Now I'm in the sixth castle and
    I'm at the monster.  How do I kill him?  I tried fire, reflect,
    everything.  It's the Sea Serpent.  What do I do?
    
    Holly
    

    I could use a hint on where to find the cross.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Don

    Re: .76   Spoiler info on Serpent after formfeed


      Gee Holly, were at the same spot in the game!  I saw the serpent
      for the 1st time last night and had one Link at the time. I didn't
      kill it but was able to inflict damage with routine sword blows
      to it's head as it popped up.

-rick
    

    Re.  .77   Spoiler info on the cross  hit <cr>



       The cross can be found in palace 6.  If you want a hint as to
       where in the palace, let me know.

-rick
    

    Yes, I guess I will need to know that also.  
    
    
    Thanks again.

          For more hints on where to get the cross hit <cr>



        Find the ravine that if you fall into, strange things happen.
        Jump over the ravine and continue on to the right. It will
        be tough to get through and be prepared to meet a guardian
        that you have battled in a previous palace.

-rick
    

    
    
    Re: spioler on serpent 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    To destroy the serpent I waited for the serpent to appear and
    shoot and then I either jumped with the "upward thrust" into it's
    jaw ( a little finesse is required ) or stood there and placed a
    well aimed jab at it's head. It dissappointed me as to how easy
    it was. I was expecting it to break apart into many little ones.
    
    wayne
    

    Re .81)
    
       No wonder I can't find it, I haven't found the ravine yet.
    I guess I will continue to look for this.
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Don
    

    Could one of you master Linksters give me some help.  I'm currently at
    Attack-6, Life-7, and Magic-7.  I have the following magic: Shield,
    Life, Fairy, Reflect, Jump, Fire.  I have the boots, raft, flute,
    hammer, and glove.  I'm currently working on (which I admit isn't as
    often as I'd like, but with all of the holiday preparation, time isn't
    one thing I have a lot of) the palace located across the water on an
    island.  The guardian is a big dude with spikes on his head who swings
    a ball and chain.  Any hints on how to do him in?
    
    Also, I've been south of the devil, worked my way through those
    rock toss'n lizards, weaseled my way through the graveyard to the
    brown area at the bottom of the screen.  However, once there it
    seems I would need the cross, because what is attacking me I can't
    see.  Am I correct?  Where should I be going first.
    
    Major spoilers welcome.
    
    Thank you.
    
    Linda

    
    
    re: -.84 Possible spoiler as to the spiked dude.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I killed him by avoiding the ball & chain he's wipping around and
    when I did get to him I kept hitting as much as I could. 
                                                        
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    re: -.84 Spoiler as to the "invisibles".
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You'll need the cross to see them. It's in a palace across the bridge
    to the right of the 1st graveyard. To find the palace you'll need
    to do some exploring.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    We're stuck at the final palace/cathedral/whatever and have mapped
    the entire place but have found no major villian to kill to end
    the game.  Any help/hint/spoiler would be welcome.  I'm waiting
    for my son to solve this so I can play it so a quick response will
    please us both.
    

    
    Semi-spoiler to -1:
    
    	You have to break an 'ice bock' on the foor, and fall down a pit.
    
    			It's suppose to be a challange,
    				Pat..

    Can anyone tell me what it takes to kill the ghosts in palace 4
    that disappear and reappear and fire things at you?  Fire magic
    doesn't appear to phase them.
    
    Thanks.

    JR

    
    
    re: -.88
    
    Spoiler:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Use reflect.
    
    

    
    re: .88    Spoiler to get the new fangled wizzrobes after <cr>
    
    
        You will need to obtain REFLECT power from one of the 
        towns. 
    
    -rick

   The guard in the last building in Water Town says that "only townspeople
   can cross the river".  I have been stuck here for several evenings trying
   to locate a tunnel, become a townsperson (if that's what it takes), jump
   across the river and a bunch of other suicidal things.
   
   I realize this wold be a major, major spiloer but if someone would mail 
   me a clue(s) or enter it here I would be grateful.
 
   John
   

    spoiler re: .91
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You need to see a man somewhere the forest located on the 
    north side of the bridge you crossed to get to Water Town.
    The "sleeping kettle" will give a hint to this if you persist 
    in trying to talk to it. The bridge keeper will then create
    the bridge to cross when you again ask. 
    

    
    I'm in what I think is the last palace in the first quest, 
    it is located in a cross shaped clearing(no spoiler, sorry). 
    I found a red floating being and whatever I do to it doesn't
    seem to harm it. Am I possible missing a device in this palace 
    that will help me?
     
    wayne

    
    Re:  .93   Spoiler after <cr>
    

    
    
          Wayne, the red guardian in the 6th palace does not like
        loud noises. You will see a dramatic change in it's 
        appearance, after which, strategically placed sword thrusts
        will finish the job.  Good luck, it ain't easy!
    
    -rick

    I don't know if this has been said before, but as to the King's
    tomb, I go there and try to figure out its significance, and don't
    understand what it is there for.
    
    Is there anything I find there???  Besides an old lady who tells
    me "This is Kings tomb."???
    
    Someone please do a send author and explain it to me.  I'd appreciate
    it, because I have had "Link" for two weeks, I'm almost finished,
    and can't understand what the kings tomb is there for.
    
    Thanks,
    Don

    I am about to place a note in the for sale topic giving this game
    away to the first taker. :^}   It is going to drive me crazy.
    
    I cannot get through the first palace.  I have 3 each of attack,
    magic, and life.  I have 5 each of the life and magic rectangles.
    I have jump and shield magic.
    
    I can make it all the way through the castle but I cannot get the
    red guy swinging the club.  I already have the candle.  I assume
    that this guy is the keeper of the castle and that after getting
    him, the castle will be completed.  I need a major spoiler.  The
    guy in the town says when all else fails, use fire.  Do I need to
    get fire power somewhere?
    
    Also, south of the second town, there is a cave.  I cannot seem to
    make it past the boomerang guy in there.
    
    Major spoilers are welcome.

    Here is a spoiler about geting past the bad guy in castle1:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I had a lot of trouble with this guy until I figured out the secret.
    Then it was simple.  Stand a the left side of the screen under the
    red boxes (these boxes indicate the enemy's strength.  When they're
    all white, the enemy is dead).  Then when the enemy approaches,
    jump up and swing your sword.  You DON'T have to jump at the enemy!!
    Simple jump up and swing.  The enemy will not even hit you with
    his weapon if you do it right.
    
    You are right about this being the last enemy before the statue,
    but you must have a key to get past a barrier.  If you don't have
    a key left, go back and look for it.
    
    As far as the cave goes, I always lose a few life hearts against
    this guy.  You may want to increase your attack or life before going
    again.  Also, be sure to activate your shield before he attacks
    you.
    
    Good luck!
    
    

    re .98, Your spoiler is correct.
    
    
    Anybody know where Gannon is in the last castle?
    
    
    Don

    re .98  You are correct about the key.  I had forgotten where it
    came from.  Sorry.
    
    Now I have a question.  I can't get to the third palace.  Possible
    spoiler follows:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I have 6 hearts, 6 magic and 5 attack.  I have the hammer, candle
    and glove.  I have high jump, life and shield magic.  I also have
    the down thrust sword routine.  I have found the tunnel (hole) south
    of kings tomb but can't jump high enough.  A previous note mentioned
    that another item was needed but didn't give ennough hint as to
    where that item is.  Is it in death mountain?  I've looked almost
    everywhere there for it.  Where is the item I need?  A spoiler will
    be appreciated.  Thanks.

    re -1
    
    i just figured that one out last night!  
    
    spoiler follows
    
    
    
    You need to get the water of life to help the womans sick daughter
    
    If you need more of a hint on where to find the water of life let
    me know...

    
                            
    I have the candle, boots, hammer, whistle, raft, and cross. 
    
    There appears to be some more room in the display for another
    item, am I missing something, I would expect perhaps a sword??
    And if I am a little hint would help.
    
    I'm currently in the "last" palace  in screen one, so if I missed 
    including something above I have what I need to get to this place.
    
    wayne
    

    You are missing the glove and the magic key at least, maybe more.
    What to you have for magics?
    
    
    Don

    
    Magic I think I have life, thunder, jump, fire, fairy, and 
    shield.
    
    I have the key and glove. What I see in the display is a space
    to the left of the candle that could possibly hold another item.
    
    
    
    

    Last night my daughter found what we thought might be the glove.
    The person in the water town said to find the glove in a swamp.
    So she went into the swamp north of town (the swamp near the cave
    that comes from the starting point) and found something.  Link raised
    his arms in exclaimation, as if he just discovered Alaska or something
    and then the game continued.  When she looked at the subscreen,
    there was not anything new.  Does the glove show up on the subscreen
    like the red candle does?  If so, then what did she possibly pick
    up.
    
    /Jim Pappas

    
    Potential spoiler to .105 after <cr>
    
    
      Jim, I think your daughter just found a Link doll. It gives you
     an extra link for your current playing session, and cannot be used
     again if you saved the session.  There are a few more of them in
     various parts of Hyrule.
    
    -rick_who_has_invested_about_300K_in_playing_this_game_using_Jim's_formula

    RE:.-1
    
    So then I assume that once she gets the glove, it will appear on the
    subscreen. 

    Entering this note for son, Chris (8) who got LINK for Christmas
    and would love some hints.  His questions follow:
    
    1. Who/what is "Error" in Ruto??
    2. Have candle, can't find hammer or glove.  Conquered one Castle,
    found the second (?).  Hints or overt help appreciated.
    3. How do you get into closed houses in Ruto and Raura?
    
    						Thanks,
    						Chris (by proxy...)
    

    okay i wasn't going to ask for help but i am going nuts with trying
    to reach the Grand Palace..
    
    caution this may be a spoiler to some....
    
    Is there more than one way to get to the palace...   I have been
    trying for the last two days to work my way thru that brown area
    just below the grave yard. only to keep getting killed.  the 
    closest i come so far is the last cave just before the Grand palace 
    entrance.   HELLLPPPPPP!!!!
    
    Anyway if this is the only way into the Grand Palace, how about
    a hint on how you went about it.
    
    Also should I have 8 heart blocks by now...i have found three so
    far  but did I miss one someplace...  I know there are none in the
    other palaces cause they have all turned to stone.

    
    Thanks,
    	   Mark

    	When Attack, Magic, and Life have all reached 8, experiece points
    count towards extra Links.  If one obtains one of these extra lives,
    is it a permanant feature of your character? (By this I mean, if
    I obtain an extra life in this way, get all my remaining Links killed,
    and select the continue feature, putting way back at the ole North
    Castle, will the screen say 'Link x 4' keeping the extra life I
    earned in my previous incarnation, or do I lose that extra life
    so that when I continue I go back to 'Link x 3'?)  Also, is there
    a limit to the number of these extra lives I can get?  I'm working
    on the Great Palace now, but it costs me two of my lives just to
    get there.  These extra lives would certainly be helpful, but it
    would be dissapointing if I lost them every time I had to continue.
    
    CE                                                  
    

    	Extra lives disappear when you continue - they are valid for
    one incarnation only.  I have gotten 3 extra lives before I got
    frustrated and went on to the castle.  BTW, per the instructions,
    you can continue from the last castle once you get there...
    
    				Chuck

    
    	RE:.111
    
    		How can you continue from the castle? I've tried it. I
    always end up back at the north palace (start). Thanks in advance.
    
    
    							Dana
    

    re .112
    
        You can continue from the last castle but, if you save your
    process and start again, you begin from the north castle.
    
    
    Don

    
    re. .107   Sorry for the late response.
    
       Yep, when you find the glove, it will appear on the subscreen.
    
    -rick

    AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
    
    sigh..
    
    I give up!, I am requesting a MAJOR spoiler on just exactly where
    the *^&Y%^&*%^& glove is!!  If I don't find it soon, I may loose
    my job from lack of sleep which in turn causes lack of concentration!!
    
    Elin_who_is_close_to_loosing_it.
    
    Please feel free to mail any spoilers to csc32::e_vaeth

    glove spoiler to follow
    
    
    
    It is in the castle in the swamp.

    I haven't jumped in here since I started LINK II last week.
    
    I have just nuked palace #3 and am working on #4.
    
    Occassionally I will look in here for help and usually find hints which
    work towards helping me in getting over a "hump" here and there.
    
    Spoilers should be hints and TOP DRAWER MAJOR SPOILERS should be done
    with mail. I can't speak for everyone but I know that I get a kick out
    of figuring things out myself...clues help...but I enjoy figuring out
    the rest myself.
    
    A comment on Link II:
    
    The way the game is constructed and the subtle hints tossed about make
    for decent game play. Early on I thought the game was too easy and then
    I found myself changing my opinion as the level of difficulty moved up
    in leaps and bounds.
    
    For those of you, like me, who spend late nights pursuing Ganon a word
    to the wise. A few days ago I put in some megahours and grabbed about 4
    or 5 items and wiped out a palace during the session. I almost forgot
    the time and got real tired (I think it was around 2 A.M.).
    
    Well the gray matter doesn't work too well when your fatigued and....
    
         WARNING - THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART
    
    ..after accomplishing all these things I reached over and, yup, forgot
    to save the game in the proper manner. Everything gone. I had a tough
    time getting to sleep as you can well imagine. Be careful.
    
    Unlike any other cartridge LINK stays in the machine until we finish
    it. I'm still amazed as to how addictive it is.
    
    Anyways, onwards and upwards....good luck everyone.
    
    Link Mike

    I am having a tough time completing the final palace. First question,
    is there an easier way to reach it. second question, how many links
    should you have before you attempt it. Third, where is the best
    place to get experience points for extra links?

    I am looking for a major spoiler on finding the hammer.  
    I will report where I am after the FF.
    
    
    I spent hours running around Death Mountain and I swear that it is not
    in there.  Would someone please tell me exactly (at least as close
    as possible) where to look for it.
    
    So far I have completed castle 1 and have 6 each of life, magic,
    and swords.
    
    I have jump, shield, and life magic.
    
    I have the red candle.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    /Jim Pappas

Small hint to find hammer location after formfeed....





    Did you go all the way through Death Mountain to the beachhead
  on the other side?  


Bigger hint to find the hammer after this formfeed.....






    Once there, look north for a cave with a rock next to to it. 

-rick
    

    I am new to the Nintendo world and I need help desperately with
    this ZeldaII cartridge I bought for my son for christmas. I have
    read the instruction booklet several times and experimented with
    the game with no success. I need some tips to get started.I very
    confused about these attach levels, magic levels etc.. and how to
    raise them. Also, the booklet says that by pushing the B button,
    when I towns, Link can find things. This doesn't work. All Link
    does is fire his sword. I have found nothing in two towns, Ruto
    and Rauru. When I start the game, my experience points level is
    150. I assume I must accumulate more than this to raise my level
    if I understand the booklet. When I fight the enemies, I only get
    a few points here and there, and lose them just as fast as I get
    them. I don't see how you can get to 150. I obviously am doing
    something wrong. Can items be found outside them towns with the
    B button also? I would greatly appreciate any help. I am not looking
    an explanation of the entire game, just some tips to get started.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    A lost Link

    re: .-1  I can give you some hints.  I'm not sure these are spoilers,
    but I'll put some space here in case.  Possible spoilers follow:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                 
    
    
    First, to talk to the townspeople, you have to be very close to
    them when you press the B button.  If you are too far away, you
    only fire your sword.  Each person has something to say (although
    some will not be able to help you).
    
    The levels are a little hard to understand at first, but become
    clearer when you succeed in raising them.  The first level (150)
    does not really take as long as you might think.  Try killing things
    in the grassy area.  The dessert and woods seem to be harder.  Also,
    you will occasionally get a white bag with a P on it after killing
    a monster.  This is usually worth 50 points (in the grassy area)
    so it can add up quick.
    
    Raising the Attack level gives you more power against enemies when
    using you weapons.  Raising Life level gives you more defense (it
    takes more hits from an enemy's weapon to hurt you a certain amount).
    Raising your Magic level helps by making some magic "cheaper".
    
    I hope this helps.  It must be frustrating not to have talked to
    anyone yet.  Do that first in the two towns.  Good luck.
    

    To all the 'sanity seeking' souls that called me, mailed me information
    on where the glove is, 
    
    
    		T H A N K S    a bunch.
    
    I am not cured of the 'just one more game' syndrome, but we
    are on our way!!
    
    Elin.

    I can't get past the gatekeeper in the fifth castle.  I've tried
    for about 2 hours now.  This isn't fun anymore.  Someone please
    give me some pointers. Some more info is after the space (possible
    spoilers)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    The gatekeeper is the guy swinging the ball and chain.  I have 8
    life, 7 attack and 7 magic.  I also have most of the magic items
    (attack, jump, life, reflect, fire and flute).  I've tried fire
    and reflect but they don't seem to help.  The problem is that I
    can't kill injure the guy enough.  Where do I need to hit this guy?
    This is frustrating!  Spoilers are welcome.
    

    reply .124
    
    Spoiler follows...
    
    
    What I did to kill this guy is use jump.  You can time this guys
    swing pretty easily.  Just when he is about to swing the ball &
    chain at you, jump.  You have to be close to him.  When the ball
    and chain are back in his mitts, swing away at him with your sword
    until the ball and chain start going again.  Then jump again!
    
    Its pretty easy, actually.  You should have no problem.
    
    Don

    re: .124
    
    I just poked at his legs and pretty soon he was history.
    
    * * * * *
    
    Well, after about a week of playing LINK I've come a long way yet I
    feel I've only scratched the surface and have actually slowed down in
    my progress.
    
    I am 8-8-8 and I have deposited 5 crystals in the various palaces (hey
    gang why haven't we referred to the palaces by their colors?).
    
    Anyway, I have everything BUT the cross, thunder, and spell. Here are
    some questions I have which I hope some of you can answer...or hint to
    the answer:
    
        1. Do I have to make it to the final palace to find the cross or is
           it in the general vicinity SSE of that spider?
    
        2. What is the maximum number of magic containers? I have 8 heart 
           sections but only 6 magic sections. I'm pretty sure the old man
           in one of these SE Hyrule towns won't give me any more magic
           unless I find that last magic container....any hints?
    
        3. Early on someone mentioned a palace to the right of the first
           graveyard....was that the graveyard near King's Tomb or the
           graveyard to the south of the Spider after the fence-hiding ball
           tossing geeks? I ask this because if there is a palace there
           then there are really 7 palaces, right?
    
    Thanks guys..........I haven't even touched SMBII and won't until I get
    Ganon.
    
    Link Mike

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    I need some help in ZELDA II.  Spoliers of any degree will be  
    appreciated.
    
    1)  Where do I find the magical cross ?
    
    2)  Where do I get the Spell magic ?
    
    3)  Where do I get the Thunder magic ?
    
    4)  Can I have some hints on how to kill the Boss character in the
        5th cathedral ?
        
    
    			Thanx in advance ...
    
    			   Jerry

    re: .127  See 41.125 for answer to your question 4.
    

    I need help finding the 'correct' forest to hammer out to find the
    palace.  
    
    I saw in another reply that it's east of a cave ....
    
    Can anyone be more specific, please?  I just want to know which
    forest, and not which 'block' in the forest ...
    
    		Thanks! 
    
    			- Lorri 

    I need help finding the 6th palace.. I have all the magic spells
    and all items except the cross.  Possible spoiler follows as to
    where I've been looking:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	I've been exploring the area with "three eye rock" as this seemed
    to be the area pointed to in note 41.85.  But I still can't find
    the palace.  Is it in the woods?  I've tried clearing most of that
    without success.  Some more clues would be welcome.
    
    
    	Also, do I need to go into the cave which is through the brown
    area under the graveyard before I go to the castle?  I've been having
    trouble getting through the area to reach the cave (even with SPELL
    magic).
    
    

    Remember in the original "Legend of Zelda" where in certain places
    you would take the....(spoiler follows)...
    
    ...flute and blowing it would make a hole appear?
    
    Link Mike

    
    
    Has anyone found a magic sword? 
    
    

    re: 41.132 - There is no mention of a magic sword in the game booklet.
    Every item that I have found has been in the book.  I would assume
    then that there is no magic sword (but I haven't finished the game
    yet.  I just found castle 6).
    

    re: -.1
    
    Thanks and good luck in castle 6. I've been here for a 
    month now, really frustrating.
    
                      

    Yeah, Castle 6 is the "Pits"...oops was that a spoiler?
    
    ;^)

    	OK, I give.  I have been everywhere and gotten everything through
    the first 6 castles EXCEPT the last heart container.  
    
    Possible spoiler follows
    
    
    The extra containers I have were obtained south of first palace,
    south of Raru, and near three eyes rock.  I am sure the one I am
    missing is the one "OVER THE OCEAN".  Any clues would be appreciated.
    I haven't finished my first quest yet since I only get to play about
    30 minutes per night.

    re: -1
    
    over the ocean spoiler
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    If I remember correctly the heart container should be above 
    and to the right of the island palace, the palace you would 
    get to by "walking on water". I think all we did was to walk 
    north then east around the island to the heart.
                                                  
    

    After resting the game for a couple of weeks we finally got the seventh
    magic container at the end of the third persistent hour.  Obtaining the
    eighth magic container, the spell magic and the thunder magic came a
    very few moments later.  Now its back to the 6th castle. 
    
    How about a hint (mild spoiler) on the magic key?  In the dead town
    there is a message alluding to the key....  Is the key in a town, a
    castle, a cave or none of the above? 
    
    Also, did you find it necessary to map out the sixth castle?  I haven't
    needed to map the castles thus far.  Thanks in advance. 
    

    I'm not sure if what I'm gonna put in here can be classified as a
    spoiler or not so let me preface the next screen by saying this note is
    only for those "Links" who have finished 6 palaces...
    
    Okay gang, unless you are an EXCELLENT player there's no way you can
    get to the Grand Palace on only 3 lives. I find myself going for 1 or 2
    extra lives just to insure that I can make it there. This involves
    about 20 minutes per 9000 points and I'm curious as to whether anyone
    out there has discovered any quick way of piling up the points faster 
    than 20 minutes for 9K points. If so I'd like to see it. I'd like to
    get to the Grand Castle in less than an hour after starting the game
    but haven't been able to do so....it's more like 75 or 90 minutes into
    the game.
    
    Here's a spoiler that Link Ron Marcoux and I talked about yesterday and
    I confirmed it last night.....again it may or may not be a spoiler...it
    concerns the guys throwing at you from behind the fence after you pass
    the Spider...
    
    If you manage to get hit in the overhead mode right at the spot the
    game would switch to the first wave of these "fence throwers" you would
    find that you would not be subjected to these guys....in effect you
    would trick the game into thinking that you are on the road and that
    you are not to be attacked by anyone. Thus you eliminate one-third of
    the danger you come across regarding the "fence" scenes.
    
    Hope this helps some people.
    
    Link Mike

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    COULD YOU SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE THE SEVENTH MAGIC CONTAINER
    IS? MY HUSBAND IS GOING CRAZY TRYING TO FIND IT. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
    

    How do you know which palace your are in? I know they all have
    different colors, but they are not numbered. I am presently in,
    what I think is, a blue palace. The one where you have to go thru
    a maze to get to. Is this palace 4? Also, any hints on where to
    find the whistle? Is it in one of the palaces?
    
    
    Mike

Hey, Mike, I'm far from being an excellent player.  If you're patient and use 
the right magic it shouldn't be any problem getting to the 7th castle with 3 
links.

I do it regularly, can't stand the castle itself though.  If you want any hints
let me know.   

    I unfortunately have not number the palaces that I have completed.
    So I am not sure which number I am on, but it it the island palace
    that you must walk over the water to get to, and the major monster
    is the one that uses some kind of ball and chain.  My problem is
    that I have not found any treasure item in this palace.  Would someone
    please post a spoiler of send a mail message to give me a hint about
    what I should get and where it may be?
    
    			Thanks in advance.
    

    Here's a question that I'd like to throw out for discussion and
    possibly someone could answer for me.
    
    Every time I start my game to go to the Grand Palace I go to a certain
    area and grab a Link Doll, giving me an extra life. I make my way to
    the palace and fight a few guys here and there....get a little deeper
    into the palace, and at the end of my game I go with CONTINUE. When I
    decide to stop playing I DO NOT save the game.
    
    I don't save the game because I'm afraid if I do then that Link Doll
    will not be there next time around.
    
    Here's the question (two-parter):
    
       If I save a game in which I have grabbed a Link Doll and battled and
       defeated some nasty people in the Grand Palace will the Link Doll be
       there the next time I power up? What about the nastys I defeated in 
       the palace?
    
    This question is dedicated to Ron Marcoux.....it's his brainchild.
    
    Link Mike
    
    

    I was curious as to whether or not there was a limit on lives so I
    decided to build up to at least 10 lives to see what would happen. I
    had built up to 9 lives and when I got my next 9K the "inventory"
    screen had an "A" next to the number of lives.
    
    Okay, you're saying, "Gee why are you spending a lot of time on getting
    lives?" Well the more lives I have the deeper I can go into the grand
    palace to map it out. Once mapped out and once I find Ganon it
    will be time well-spent.
    
    Link Mike

    I found the hammer, but I always use the Link Doll in Moruge Swamp.
    I have won level 1,2,3, and found Level 4.  I have 4 attack, 5 life,
    and 5 magic, BUT...     
                 
                 
                ... WHERE DO YOU GET MORE POINTS ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    

    Just one question. How many hours does it take to accumulate 9
    lives?!!! Ok, one more question. How many link dolls are there?
    
    mike

    I've got it down to 15 minutes per life, plus I grab a Link Doll which
    is near KING's Tomb, so I add 2 to the 3 lives I start off with and
    that puts me up to 5 lives after 15 minutes of playing, 6 after 30
    minutes, 7 after 45.......so it works out to about around 90 minutes.
    
    But in order to do this you must use the forest near the hidden town
    and not hesitate to use your Thunder Magic. Using this magic saves
    time.
    
    On a good stretch I can almost get 1,000 points per minute.
    
    I have seen at least 4 Link Dolls throughout the game. One "above the
    ocean", one in one of the Swamps, and two in the deserts. There is also
    one in the Grand Palace.

    My son would welcome a major spoiler regarding: Where do you find
    Thunder?
    
    Can you help?

    Spoiler on Thunder location:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I THINK I remember where this was.  I am not at all certain about
    this.  If I am wrong someone please correct me.
    
    After completing the hidden town, go back to the dead town and do
    some exploring.  If I remember correctly, the THUNDER magic is somewhere
    in this town.  I hope this is accurate.  It's been awhile since
    I found this.  I can't remember the exact location in the town.
    

    rep.149,150
    
     The thunder is in the dead town. 
    
     I have two questions on a location and a riddle.
    	a)Is the kings tomb good for anything?
    	b)in one of the towns there is a church.If you ask a question at
    		the door of the building,Ypu get an answer that reads
    		" Its very quiet ". I am confused if this somthing?
    
      help?
    		Wayne

    re:-1 spoiler
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Find a way into the church.
    
    

    Let's see if a church is quiet it's missing something right?
    
    Does that clue ring a bell?

     I have jumped up into the top door of the church and had recieved the 
    magic or sword power.
    
     I still am in the dark on the "quiet church" what am I missing?
      If it is a bell, how about a clue on it whereabouts???
    
    		Confused again
    
    		Wayne

    My son sure could use a spoiler to find the magic key.  Can you
    help?
    
    - Jim

    RE: - 7?
    Semi-spoiler regarding the kings tomb.
    
    If anything happens there, I haven't found out about it.  I completed
    the game this weekend (finally!), and still had nothing noticible
    happen to me there.

    I have a question regarding the link dolls that give you an extra
    life. Can you get these dolls only once, or will they be there again
    the next time you play after saving the game and powering off? We
    found a doll in one of the swamps when we first started playing
    link, and my son swears that when he goes back to this same spot,
    the doll is not there.

    Yep.  One time only items.
    
    - Chris

    That is precisely why I do not SAVE my game anymore. Once you've
    deposited the 6 crystals and then head for the grand palace you should
    continue but never save....there are dolls around.
    
    Link Mike

    If you never save the game, then you have to leave your NES powered
    on until you complete the game. I would think this would shorten
    the life of the unit. There are three dolls left that we haven't
    found yet. If we find them, and do a continue and not a save after
    all links lives are gone, will they be there again?
    
    
    mike

    Yes. I grab one in the same place evey game....he's always there.
    
    Mike

    Re .160:
    
    > If you never save the game, then you have to leave your NES powered
    > on until you complete the game.
    
    You play _most_ of the game, saving it as you go.  After you have
    finished six palaces, you save the game one last time.
    
    Then every time you play, you work your way to the last palace, and the
    dolls are there for you every time.  You can turn the system off and
    simply have to work your way to the last palace next time you start
    playing again. 
    
    
    				-- edp

    I always thought there was a chance of losing everything if you
    powered off the NES without saving. Can you power off at any time
    without losing your game? Is there a certain procedure you have
    to follow? Its taken us about a month to get where we are now. I
    don't want to blow everything away at this point.
    
    mike

    re: -1
    
    You can power off the game at any time as long as you hold the RESET
    button in as you turn the game off.  That is the only procedure
    to follow.  When you power back on, you will have everything you
    had when you LAST did a SAVE.
    
    The thing to remember is when it makes sense to do a save.  When
    you pick up new magic or lives or attack or kill a major monster
    or close a castle, then you definately want to do a save.  But if
    you haven't gotten anything new, then it doesn't help to do a SAVE.
    
    In the case of dolls, if you do a save after you have used them,
    they are no longer there for the next time you turn the machine
    on. 

    re: saving vs not saving
    
    Of course, if you are like me, it's not solving the game alone that is
    fun.  Solving it in the minimum number of "lives" is more challenging -
    and you mess up your count if you don't save each time...
    
    - Chris

    re:164
    Thanks for the info. I think I will practice on my ZeldaI cartridge
    a few times to make sure I got the technique right before I try
    it on link.
    
    mike

    Could someone please help us with the last heart container? I have
    read the spoiler on were to find it but we are still having a hard
    time. Could someone gives us more info we are having a hard time
    getting over the ocean. thanks on advance.

    re: .-1
    
    Spoiler on heart container follows:
        
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You may be having the same problem that I had.  My daughter (14)
    figured it out with no problem, but it never occurred to me!  You
    have to go north BEFORE getting to the island.  There is only one
    path that will work.  I can't remember exactly where it is, but
    it is about half way to the island.  Just keep trying to go north
    until it works.  Then you can go east, then south to find to heart.
    
    Hope this helps.

    Spoiler on crystal in sixth castle follows:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    It has been several weeks since I finished the 6th castle, so my
    memory is a little fuzzy.  I'll try to remmember.  When you fall
    into the pit, stop at the second level.  You can stop by pushing
    your control left or right as you fall.  Now keep going to the right.
    I beleive there is a monster that you must kill, but once you've
    killed him, he's gone for good (as long as you save the game of
    course).  Keep going until you find a new pit.  I'll let you figure
    out what to do from there. 

    I hope this is correct and helps.
    

    OK, I give up!  I need a spoiler for the grand palace.  I can not
    find Gannon.  Spoiler follows with where I have been.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I have taken all three major paths.  I've gone past the doll and
    fairy on one path and found a dead end.  The other two paths seem
    to connect so I just go in circles.  Someone please give me a spoiler
    on where I  need to go to find Gannon.  Thanks.
    

    It's a big palace and you need to map it out....I've taken a hiatus
    from Link but someday I'll put in some time and finish Ganon.
    
    Sorry I can't help.
    
    Link Mike

    Spoiler to help find Gannon follows:
    
    Sounds like there's still something "blocking" your way.

    We finally, actually the kid's!, have conquered the game once and
    are already back in the final palace for a second go around.  It
    is a great game and it is even more fun the second time around.
    
    elin
    
    for .170
    
    
    The exact words my daughter (the first to figure it out) were:
    
    Mom,  it isn't really what you think it is, I really haven't been
    there before......she and my son went on to conquer and would not
    let me play!
    
    anymore would spoil it.  enjoy.

    HAS ANYONE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEIR ADVENTURE OF LINK JUST BLOWING
    UP AND NEVER WORKING AGAIN... I HAVE 2 FRIENDS THAT THIS HAPPENED
    TO AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO ME... I TOOK THE CARTRIDGE BACK TO JC
    PENNYS AND REORDERED ANOTHER... THEY SAID IT WOULD BE ARRIVING SOMETIME
    IN APRIL... THIS IS NOT GOOD... I WAS JUST ABOUT TO CONQUER THE
    1ST QUEST...
    				BUSTER

    I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT IF YOU FORGOT SOMETHING IN A PALACE THAT IT
    WON'T CLOSE UP WHEN YOU EXIT, IT WILL ONLY CLOSE WHEN EVERYTHING
    HAS BEEN FOUND....
    

    Ditto!

    Others seem to have had an easy time of finding the boots, but I
    can't find 'em!
    
    I also only have 6 life containers.  Is that about appropriate for
    someone who just got the 'reflect' spell?  (Seven magic containers,
    though.)

    We have completed six palaces and are presently trying to make our
    way to the Grand Palace, but it appears that 3 lives make it too
    difficult. We have searched everywhere for the link dolls and have
    not found any. Would someone please give me a spoiler on where to
    look for these dolls. Just how many are there?
    
    
    thanks in advance
    
    mike

    My family and myself are now official "ex" Zelda I "ers" (replayed
    it twice now.....).   We (two kids, 9,11 and self all thought it
    was great, became addicted etc).
    
    Are Link players/owners ex Zelda I "ers" and is Link considered
    the next step and.... .do you all like it vs Zelda I?
    
    Also, is it now readily available and..... what is it running
    now ($$).
              
    thx
    Dan
    

    RE: 41.174		<LINK BLOWING UP>
    
    My LINK cartridge has been acting funny for some time, but if you
    finally get it to load (sometimes 20+ tries and yes the contacts
    have been cleaned) and leave it in the deck, it continues to work
    okay.  
    
    My neighbors LINK cartridge went totally south and would screw-up
    the loading of any other cartridges after LINK had been inserted.
    After the deck had been sitting for awhile, it was alright for the
    other cartidges.  Anyway, she called the Nintendo "800" number and
    they initially quoted her $15.00 to fix a cartridge, but when she
    told them that it was LINK, they told her that there was a known
    problem with some of the LINKs that had been distributed and that
    there would be no charge for repairing it.  They also gave her an
    RMA number and all of the appropriate place to place the number
    (inside and outside of the package) and she sent it off.  She did
    not have a receipt but that was no problem since it was LINK.
    
    I'll let you know how long it takes to get the cartridge back when
    it is returned.  She sent it in on Wednesday (Feb. 8).
    
    As soon as I finish this quest, I am going to try to return my LINK
    also, but I'm in Palace 6 and have everything except one attack.
    
    

    I need a hint on how to kill Ganon.  I have been trying for a week
    now and am about to give up!  I can get to him easily now, but can't
    find the secret to killing him off.  Hints are badly needed.
    
    What I have tried is after the linefeeds (possible spoiler):
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I use thunder to weaken gannon and also use shield and jump.  I
    have been able to wound Gannon and almost got him once (had two
    red squares left) but he always ends up the winner.  With Thunder,
    Shield and Jump, there is not enough magic left for LIFE.
    
    Is there a place I should stand to attack?  Another magic I should
    use (spell doesn't seem to help)?  Whats it take to do this guy
    in?

    How many lives do you have once you come across Ganon?
    

    re: -1
    
    I usually have two full lives left to try to defeat Gannon.  One
    is due to a doll I pick up before getting there (only works once
    though unless I want to power down and start from the beginning
    again).  I hope this isn't a clue.  I have no idea what it means
    if it is!!
    
    

    This game is starting to drive my family (we did Zelda and now Link
    as a team effort) slowly crazy!  My wife and son have requested
    that I ask for some help in finding the boots.
    
    Any help (down right spoilers would even be accepted with mucho
    thanks) in finding the boots.  We've made it out to the island (?)
    and she says we need the boots to do something out there.  I've
    been out of town for training this whole week so I'm not sure what
    status the game is right now.
    
    Thanks to anyone who has some help!
    
    Steve

    I had exactly the same question a week ago!
    
    minor spoiler       
                        
                       
    They're in a palace.

    i know that i could probobly find this in older entrys but i'm just
    to lazy too look so could anyone give me a direct spoiler to where
    and how to get the hammer! please!
    
    Greg Hamilton
    

    Can someone help me find the whistle (flute), I have little bald
    spots on my head from pulling my hair out trying to find this.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Kathy
    

         This question may be answered somewhere in this maze of 180+
    replies but I'll ask again....has anyone finished this yet?  I was
    just wondering if there is a second round as in Zelda.  I finally
    broke down and ordered the game from Trysoft....figured I'd never
    find it in a store.
          One other question...if you don't save after getting killed
    do you then start at where you last did use the save function?
    
    
    Thanks
    Bob

    RE: .-1 (question 2)
    
    You always start at the very beginning (which can drive you crazy)
    but you won't lose items/magic that you have gained and castles that
    you have finished if you save.
    
    John

    Re: .190
    
         So, if you don't save it, you start over (like Zelda?) but
    keep whatever you found?  Or do you only keep what you had found
    up to when you last used save?  In an earlier note the "dolls" were
    mentioned and someone said they didn't "save" so they could pick
    this doll up again each time.  How do you do that....just power
    off?
    
    
    Bob

Some parts of this question may contain spoilers for those people
who aren't this far in the Grand Castle, so I'll put in a formfeed
just in case......



     Does anybody know where Gannon is in the Grand Castle????

     I notice that note 41.99 asks the same question, but there
     were no answers.  I dropped an e-mail message to Don (the
     originator of .99), but he hasn't recieved an answer either.

     I've mapped out nearly 50 rooms, found three major paths, three
     pits, the Link doll, the fairy, and found several rooms hidden 
     behind false walls in the elevator shafts.  I'm at the point 
     where all my paths end in dead-ends, but I still haven't found 
     that d*mned Gannon.

     If any of you more-accomplished Linksters can help out, I'd 
     appreciate it.

     Frank

    
    
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Hi! I found no topic on Zelda II, (Boy, was I surprised) so I thought I'd start
one.        
    
My opinion, this game is GREAT!! Pick it up, you'll be glad you did. The action
is plentiful and the variety of enemies endless. It is difficult enough to  
keep you playing it for a long time.My review on this game coming up:                     
    
Many years after the fall of Ganon, something strange happens to Link on his
16 birthday. On that day, a strange mark appears on Link's hand which looks   
like the crest of the kingdom. The worried Link goes to Impa, Zelda's nursemaid
for help. On sight of the mark, Impa took Link to North Castle, where she
explained to Link the mark. It meant that Link was the only person who could
open a door called "the door that does not open" in North Castle, which Impa   
took Link to. Link opened it, and there lay Zelda in a eternal sleep on
an alter. Impa told Link why she laid there in an eternal sleep...um, sorry
not going to spoil the surprise.        
                
Believe me, this game is much more harder than the Legend of Zelda because
you are in a much more vast Hyrule and there are harder enemies to defeat.
But there are better features like gaining experience and getting to cast
different magic, too.
    
Oh, allmost forgot. Neat graphics, too.
    
    
                                                         See ya,
                                                         John
    
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    I believe note # 41 is the "official" Adventures of Link (Zelda II)
    note .. I'm sure the moderator will move us over. Take a look there.
    
    We haven't been able to locate the #&@! game in the Wash DC area,
    so we are alittle frustrated at this time.
    
    Later,
    Randy
    
    
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    Re: .1
    
         Give Trysoft a call...the number's in a note here somewhere.
    I finally gave up trying to find it in a store and ordered it last
    Thursday....got it on Friday.  Cost including shipping = $49.99.
    Not much more than it would be in a store if you could find it.
    Now...if I only had some time to play it....
    
    
    Bob

    Re .189. Yes, I've finished the game. Its been quite awhile since
    I've played it (sometime last September. I got mine from Canada).
    
    No, there is not a second quest like Zelda I. Once you've finished
    the game thats it. However, the game is very challenging as many
    who've played it know. Definitely start mapping when you start going
    through the temples. 
    
    For those of you looking for Gannon do not expect him to look like
    he does in Zelda I. He's different. The ending to this game is
    different also. If anyone needs a spoiler or help let me know.
    
    The_Linkmaster_waiting_for_Zelda III
    
    Aloha
    
    Hawaii_Harry
    

    re .189 - You need to save if you have done any of the following:
    
    Closed a castle
    Killed a major monster (the ones with the red boxes that turn white)
    Got any new magic, life, or attack
    Got any of the items Link needs to do special things
    
    If you don't save after doing these things, when you come back to
    play the game later (after powering off), it will be as if you never
    did the things.  The game will have whatever you had when you did
    the last save.
    
    There is one disadvantage to saving.  When you find a link doll,
    it works for one incarnation only.  If you don't save the game,
    the next time you play, the link doll will be there again.  If you
    do save, the link doll will be gone.
    
    If you don't save, you still need to power off the unit while holding
    in the reset button.  You ALWAYS do this!!
    
    There are probably some things I missed in the list that also get
    saved.  If you have done anything useful since you powered up, you
    are probably going to want to save.
                     

    Re: .195
    
         Thanks for the info....that's the way I figured it worked.
    My main concern was for when I get to the point (if ever) that I
    need to decide if I'll need a "Link doll" again at a particular
    place....now I know if I save the game it won't be there next time
    around.
    
    
    Bob

         I'm looking for some basic information since I just got the
    game and haven't really started playing yet.  Would someone mind
    explaining how "Attack", "Magic", "Life" and the various weapons
    work?  My assumption is that as you increase your "attack" you're
    actually increasing the strength of your weapon?  Do you lose a 
    magic block (whatever) each time you use some type of magic?  How
    do you select and use a type of magic?  As far as life, I assume
    you lose it as you're injured as in Zelda?  Finally, how do you
    pick-up a weapon when you find it and how do you select and use
    it?
        
    
    Thanks
    Bob

    You are right "Attack" increases you weapon power
                  "Magic" your ability to use magics which you find
                  "Life" slows the damage inflicted on you in fight
    
    To use magic select it while in a fight scene (with th "A" button)
    
    To pick up weapons or items just walk to them. You don't have to
    select items they are used automatically except the hammer and flute
    For the hammer you use th "A" button for the flute the "B" button.
    
    You can only select magics in a fight scene.
    
    Hope it helps
    
    Greggers

    Re: -1
    
         Yes, thanks...the info helps.  A couple of follow-up questions
    however.  When in a fight scene and you want to select a form of
    magic, do you first press "select" and then choose which magic you
    want from the subscreen....then go back to the fight screen and
    press "A" to use it?  What do you mean when you say you don't choose
    the weapons?  If you have all the weapons and one (besides the whistle
    or hammer) is needed in a particular place, does Link automatically
    use that weapon without you making a choice?
    
    
    Thanks

    RE: -.1
    
    To use magic, press "select" to bring up the subscreen. Choose the
    magic you wish to use with the left arrow control (up/down), press
    "select" again to remove subscreen, THEN press "start". {I might
    have gotten "select" and "start" reversed... the trick is to get
    rid of the subscreen}
    
    Link uses only his sword in a fight scene, except if magic is invoked.

    RE: -.2
    
    The items are like those in Zelda. Like when you come to the
    dock and you have the raft you automatically cross.
    
    
    This is a great game all ready been through it 6 times
    
    greggers

    Re: .148 by COEM::SCOPA
    
    Thanks for the tip.  I was at 7-8-8, and just a little playing in
    the forest brought me up to 8-8-8.  That's really slick.
    
    Re: no-one in particular.
    
    Dealing with King Kong at the end of palace 5 is tough, but I did
    finally manage it.  I like the effect when you finally defeat a
    palace guardian.  The fireworks are neat!
    
    Tip for dealing with the blue knights that throw knives.
    (possible spoiler)
    
    In palace 6, there is a blue knight near the end of one of the rooms.
    I found that if you keep pushing him, he disappears off the edge
    of the screen, never to be seen again.  You don't get any points
    for him, though.  I always have a tough time with them.  This does
    not appear to work if you are dealing with a blue knight that you
    knock off of a horse.
    
    Directions to a Link doll inside palace 6.
    
    Enter palace, take elevator down two floors, go right one room,
    fall down pit twice, go right 6 rooms.  The Link doll is guarded
    by a blue knight, and a ricocheting smiley face (I guess that's
    Bubble from Zelda I).  I was down to my last life, low on life,
    and no magic, so I didn't get the doll.  Better luck next time!
    
    	ryn::stapes

    I was just able to get Link a couple of days ago - now for a real
    beginner question.....  Due to "heart" purchases I'm now a "LINK-5"
    (last one cost about 800)  BUT... the purchases don't seem to amount
    to anything, i.e;  what do the hearts mean/do..............  
    
    thx
    Dan

    The hearts make you stronger..it takes less of the enemys hits to
    hurt you. You have to go out and find extra heart containers to
    make it longer.
    
    greggers

    After about 5 or 6 weeks of playing Link --- Gannon has bit the
    dust.  This has been well worth it (although a second quest would
    be nice, we were spoiled by Zelda).  The last battle was won and
    our family gathered to watch the final scenes with a sense of victory
    for a battle well faught.
    
    Hang in there, it can be won.
    
    Steve
    (Where's Zelda III or Link II or whatever it will be called?)

    Gee everyone is beating Ganon and finishing up Link.
    
    I haven't really touched the game in about a month. Well I guess I'll
    make an effort over the next couple of days.
    
    Mike
    

    
    Hi,
    
    Just got the Hammer.   Was hammer-ing around last night and went into
    an underworld, that at the end of it, had a bottle that looked just
    like the "half medicine" one in Zelda I, i.e;  it had the same shape
    and color, half blue, half white.  At the above world entrance to
    this underworld is a container of the stuff used for a one-time-only
    extra life.  
    
    Anyone know what the bottle is used for?
    
    thx
    Dan 
    

    Sounds like you found the water of life..  You will need it in
    one of the towns to recieve  ** something special **
    
    greggers

    re -1, -2
    
    Thanks,
    
    I did "get" it - was worried cause it didn't show up on the list of 
    things I now "had".    I'll be looking for the "special thing"...
    
    thx
    Dan

         Another request for identification.....I picked up something
    that looked like a fairy or whatever with wings in a cave near the
    start but it doesn't show up on my sub-screen.  What is it???
         Also, is there only one item to find in each palace?  I found
    the red candle in palace ?? but haven't been able to get to the
    crystal yet.  Is it near the tall sucker swinging the spiked ball
    and chain?  Can't get by him yet.....
    
    Bob

    Can't answer all your questions, but the one about "the tall sucker
    swinging the spiked ball and chain?"-----yep!!!you gotta get
    him----HINT-----
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You have to jump up and strike his head-----when you do, everytime
    you hit him one of the red blocks on the left turns white -- when
    all are white, then he disappears--
    
    By the way - you are carrying six crystals - when you get to the
    end of a palace there is a large statue - when you get to this the
    game automatically takes a crystal and floats it up and places it
    in a hole in this statue.  If you have found everything in the palace,
    the palace then will turn to stone - if it doesn't, you've missed
    something in it.
    
    Good luck............
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    re:.210
    
    
    You found the trophy.....this is something you will use in one of
    the towns to recieve another ** something special **
    
    greggers

    Re: .211
    
         Thanks....I figured that was the case....I just don't have
    enough strength yet, he always kills me first.  Do you know if the
    candle is the only item in that palace?
         Crystals....so that's what those 6 things are that show on
    the sub-screen!!! 8*)  
    
    
    Bob

    re:.213
    
    
    That's the only item in the palace.. there is only one item in
    each palace.  If you need a hint on killing that guy in palace 1
    let me know, there is a way that he will never even touch you.
    
    greggers

    Re: .214
    
         Yeah, I could definitely use the hint on killing that sucker...
    assuming I have the power and/or weapon necessary to do the job.
    Thanks for the info.
    
    
    Bob

	In trying to complete palace #2, I have come up against a problem -
	not enough keys - there are(were) three(3) keys in the palace,
	but upon needing one to open the door to the statue, I find I am
	one short.  Can I use fairy magic to fly through this door and
	later
	close it up?  Where is fairy magic?  I have shield, jump, life
	magic
	and am at 4-4-5 exploring death mountain trying to find the hammer.
	Any help would be appreciated.
	Thanks,
	Debbie
	

    
    Finished castle 3 a couple of days ago......
    
    I've been looking/looking/looking for the "boots" with no luck..
    
    Would appreciate a semi-spoiler...........
    
    thx
    Dan

     
		         <Boots....>
	According to the map I have in the Nintendo Power magazina, the
	boots can be found in palace #4 - where is the hamme - I'm in
	death mountain and have explored and I can not find it - give me
	some clues on this, please, before I go crazy....

	    Debbie
	     

	I just thought of another question - where are the container hears
	and magic jars- the ones that increse the white magic squares you
	have available??

	Thanks for all help,

	Debbie
	

    re: -.2
    
    Keep going south until you hit the beach... then go down again.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Spoiler question:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                                                          
    
    
    
    I had thought you had to use the boots to get to #4.  
    Is castle 4 the one where you have to go through the maze to reach?
    
    thx
    Dan
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

	Tonight, I found the hammer, and a jar that increased my magic
	squares(the white ones) to number 6.  I am now at 6-6-6 with:
	shield, jump, life magic and the down-thrust technique.  I have
	been to Mido City and found a woman saying that her daughte is
	ill - I think I am supposed to give her something but I do not
	know where to find it - clues, hints?  It has to do with life -
	I'm sure you know what I mean.  Also, how do you find the tunnel
	that leads to palace #3?  I know where it is supposed to be, but
	I can't find it.  Spoiler question follows.  I do not know how to
	do a form feed, so I'll just <cr> a few times:









	I have found a tunnel that goes 2 ways- left or right.  To the
	right the tunnel continues, but I cannot jump high enough to reach
	the entry.  Clues on this?? The other way leads back to the
	graveyard.

	In answer to your question:  this is for palace #4, right?  You are
	supposed to sail east across the sea to Maze Island and yes you do
	go through a maze to reach this palace - but according to Nintendo
	Power magazine, the maze outside is nothing compared to the maze
	inside that awaits Link. The boots are in this palace.  Good Luck.

	Debbie
	

         Help needed!  I still don't quite understand "magic".  Do I
    need to find "containers" in order to use it?  I've made it thru
    the first palace and have found "shield" and "jump" but when I try
    to go through a cave area I get to a point where I have to jump
    higher to go further.....and I can't use "jump" magic.
         Do I need to find containers and where are they near the start?
    Any help appreciated.
    
    
    Thanks
    Bob

    
    Husband needs some major spoilers....He's asked me to get some
    help on locating Gannon. He is near the end of the game in some
    castle and looking for Gannon. Please can someone out there help
    this poor man out!!!
    
    Thanks, Jeannie
    

    re: 222
    
    You start with 4 magic containers (the white boxes) each worth 16
    points.  When you look at the magic screen (by pressing start)
    it tells you how much magic you need for each function.  Without
    any additional magic containers, you can use up to 64 magic points
    per life without replenishing.  If you get more containers, you
    have more points per turn to use up.
    
    The magic experience value (the number associated with Magic) allows
    you to do more things per turn by decreasing the amount you need
    for certain magic as it goes up.  For example, when magic = 8, you
    need only eight magic points to activate jump.
    
    To use the magic, activate the screen (START) and select the magic
    you want with up/down on the controller.  The return to the sceen
    (by pressing start again) and press select.  The magic will only
    be good for the current screen.  Once you leave this screen (short
    pause and a new screen is painted) the magic is no longer active.
    You will have to repeat the above sequence to reactivate the magic.
    Once the squares are gone, you can't use magic again unless you
    die and start a new life or find a blue or red magic container.
    
    Hope this helps.

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    Here is a question from my 9 year old daughter. Can someone help
    her please.
    
    "I have gotten to the grand palace but I cannot get passed my shadow.
    I have tried everything, thunder magic, spell magic, jump magic,
    shild magic, ferry magic but they never worked. I have one question
    for you. How do you get passed him."
    
                                       Susan
                                        
    Any spoilers would be welcome....Al (dad)   

    RE: 225
    
    Tell her she forgot one magic.
    
    

	I am trying to get to palace #3 - I know where it's supposed to be,
	but cannot find the way. I think I might need fairy magic to reach
	but I'm not sure.  Also, where is life water?

	Debbit
	Debbie(the first time I hit the 't' instead of the 'e'
	

	<re. .227>

	    Nevermind.  I found all that I was asking help in locating.

	    NOW my problem is defeating some blue doggie-dragon critters
	    and those hopping spiders on Maze Island.  Any hints as to how
	    to do these guys in would be appreciated.

	    Thanks,

	    Debbie
	    

Can some one give me a minor spoiler as to the location of the candle?  I know
this is probably a simple find, but have yet to find it anywhere.  So far 
I've found the trophy, and the Magic potion container, and been into the
first palace (and pretty thouroughly thrashed by some shield carrying twerp!) 
and still have not found the candle.  I have been into all the caves I can find 
including the one south of town you're not "suppose" to go in without the 
candle.  Does finding the candle require something special, or will I run into
it if I search long enough?

thanks,

	tom

    
    
    	Spoiler on how to deal with the hopping spiders in the island maze.
    
    
    
    
    	You need the fire magic. It only takes about 2 hits when you have
    Fire Magic. I don't remember where to get it though.
    
    
    							Dana
    

    Re: .229
    
    
         Look for the candle in.......
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    the 1st palace.
    
    Now, a question.....where did you find the magic container??
    
    
    Bob

    I could sure use a little bit of a hint on where to find the reflect
    magic.  So far, I have found jump, fairy, sheild, and fire, but
    have no idea where to look for the reflect magic.  Please, I really
    do not want an exact location...I remember reading in here that
    someone said that you do not have to look far to find it, but I
    have searched all over the place.  I have cleared all of the woods,
    and have searched all of death mountain.  At least I think I have
    searched all through death mountain.  A clue would be more than
    appreciated!!
    
    Thx!
    Todd

    Re: -.1
    
    minor spoiler:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Looks like you don't have the raft - yet.    You'll need it.........
    
    dt

    Need help in Palace #5.  I found the key behind the wall.  Need
    to find the Guardian.  Is it over on that side of the wall (after
    you walk through the false wall)???  Also, where on the water do
    you find the heart container - near what island or town or what???
    
    Thanks in advance--
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    re: -234
    
    The heart container is north of the palace but you can't go
    directly north from the palace
    
    greggers

   re:  .231

	Thanks for the tip on the candle, I'll do all little more exploring
there!  

	As far as the magic container goes it's (spoiler)

        in the cave that's in the middle of the desert.  The cave that's
at the top of the screen after you leave Zelda in her slumber.

	tom
	

    Re: .236
    
         That's where the magic container is???  I've been in there
    but don't remember finding anything.....guess I'll have to check
    it out again.  Is there something special to do or just beat the
    bad guys???
    
    
    Thanks
    Bob

    The first magic container is in the cave just south of where
    you start.  The trophy is in the cave in the desert.
    
    greggers

    Re: .238
    
         I've found the trophy but still don't remember there being
    something in BOTH places.  I will go thru both again....maybe I
    did something wrong in the cave with the magic container?????
    
    
    Bob

    Re. 235
    
    Thanks for that information -- still need answer on where guardian
    is in #5.  Also, where are other heart containers----I found one
    and if I remember right, it was on the way to the  town in the upper
    left of the land you cross over to on the raft.  I may be wrong
    but I think it was there----
    
    Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Mary-ann
    

	Can somebody give me some idea of where to find fire magic? I have
	jump, shield, life, fairy, and reflect magic but need fire to do in
	some bad guys that are KILLING Link just as he gets going.  I have
	been to Mido town (the town that a boulder blocks the way to ) and
	I've sailed across the water to the town of Nabooru(sp?) and
	Darunia(sp?)
	Have I passed where I will get fire magic or did I miss something?

	Debbie
	]

    Regarding the hopping spiders...
    
    If you're real strong you can wipe them out in one hit.
    
    BTW - Nice to see this note getting some action. I thought everyone had
    either finished the game or got frustrated with it.
    
    Mike

	    Where should I go to accumulate enough points to get stronger?
	    My next is 4000 and I think that once I get that 4000, I will
	    be at 7-7-7 or something like that.

	    Also, fire magic will help ---

		Debie
		Debbie(once again I hit the 'e' before the final"b")
		

    re:  .243
    
    Debbie (I spelt it right!!!)
    
    What I do to accumulate points quick is go to Death Mountain--go
    through it and when you get to the last hole and complete this go
    back to the beginning - exit out - go back in and everything is
    back -- you can rack up at leat 1,000 or close each time you go
    through.  You must go back to the beginning and exit before you
    try to go through again.  
    
    It takes some time, but it is the fastest I have found so far!!!
    
    Good luck!!!
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    I have heard of a "hidden town" and a "dead town" - the hidden town I
    am told is *possible spoiler*








    is under a forest - you need the hamme to clear the trees and stuff
    away and a town appears.  What I need to know is where this town is?
    I don't want spoilers, yet,  just some general hints or clues.  Also,
    the same goes for dead town, just some general hints or clues.  I have
    just completed the palace on Maze Island and have started on palace #5.
    This game is good-----

    Debbie
    

    Re. .244

	Thanks, I usually go through death mountain and back but get about
	1000 points.  I didn't know I could go back thru AGAIN!!  That will
	rack up the points!!!!  Those blue hoppy spiders on the land before
	Maze Island are nerve racking!!  I have fire magic, but it seems
	that they always get in a good shot or two before I roast 'em.
	I'm looking for the other magics that I need - spell and thunder.
	And container hearts.  And magic jugs.  I'm at 6-7-8 with my next
	at 5000 (I think).  Any and all clues, hints, help will be welcomed
	and appreciated.

	Debbie

re .238  

	Ooopps you caught me.  Thanks for the correction!

re .236  (mini spoiler) 


	I don't think you necessarily have to beat the bad guys, just have
to get to the end of the cave and the potion should be there waiting.  I 
personally find it easier to do away with the bad guys on the way in, then
Link can take a leisurely stroll out of the cave.

    re:245
    
    debbie
    
    you will need the item from the fifth castle before you can
    find dead town or hidden.  dead town will be easy to see,
    and hidden town is......i'll help ya when ya need it.
    
     
    greggers

    I find that the quickest way to accumulate points (9K in 15 minutes) is
    to deal with the guys in the forest near the hidden town. 
    
    Semi-spoiler...
    
    When you get hit and go into "battle mode" wait until you have almost
    all the characters on screen. When this occurs blast 'em with thunder.
    This will give you between 250-350 points depending upon where you are.
    
    It takes about 20-30 seconds for one of these cycles. Sometimes you
    will get either a blue or red magic bottle which doesn't give you
    points.
    
    Another handy thing to do is after you go through the hidden town to
    get magic or life (although all you need to do is get magic and you get
    both......but that's another spoiler), clear the trees so you can go
    right in quickly if you need to do so.
    
    Link Mike

    Re: .243 by TYFYS::MOLLER
    
    You want some points quickly.  If you cannot do what .249 by
    COEM::SCOPA suggests, then try
    (semi-spoiler)
    
    crossing the ocean by raft, and do battle in the plains.  You need
    fire magic to kill the hopping things.  The advantage is that you
    can get to town real quick for a recharge.  The hopping thing are
    worth 50 points each, and sometimes a treasure bag worth 200 points.
    That is how my wife increased her levels a bunch.
    
    	Stapes

    Did you know that you could transfer experience from one player
    to another?  Read on if you want more info.
    (spoiler)
    
    The latest issue of Nintendo Power explains that a person on the
    second time through the game starts at 8-8-8.  Therefore the early
    palaces are real easy, and you get whatever points to raise you
    need to get the next level.  The next level for a player at 8-8-8
    is 9000 points, so when you complete a palace, the game begins awarding
    you points.  Press "Start" immediately, then take the second controller
    and press and hold "Up" and press "A".  This will allow you to save
    your character.  Next, select another player, and the points that
    are being awarded for finishing a palace go to the new player. 
    I suppose this should work for someone on the first time through
    the game at 8-8-8 with a palace or 2 to go also.
    
    	Stapes

    Quick hints on making it through Death Mountain over and over (after
    the CR)----------------------------
    
    
    
    
     
  
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    In Death Mountain, there are at least 4 red full majic bottles.
    I find this route the fastest.  When you get near or find these
    bottles, first fill up with life with whatever majic you have left,
    then pick up the bottle and refill your majic.  Continue this through
    to the end.  Returning back to the beginning, you don't need this
    method because the major villans are still gone.  Only have to contend
    with the little blue blobs and red ones and other little types of
    "bad guys".  Go back out and start again.  Many points are racked
    up in a shorter time span.
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    Where's the flute?

    It's in the fifth palace. Do you want to know more????
    
    greggers

    Finally finished the 5th palace last night!!!!!  Thought I would
    never finish---------
    
    Need help with the guys behind the fences -- one note said something
    about getting hit overhead????  Do you have to get hit when you
    first come into the scene or what???  Really confused on this one
    ---
    
    BTW-----Many thanks to everyone who has helped me through all the
    games on this note -- if it wasn't for all the help they would have
    locked me up a lonnnnnggggg time ago!!!!!!!  Again - mega thanks!!!!
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    mary ann
    
    What I usually do is just make link go back and forth quickly
    as they are throwing their balls it confuses them and they
    start throwing in the wrong directions, also spell works well.
    
    If you let one of gannon's shadow creatures hit you just as
    you are entering the first one, you will be able to completely
    bypass it.
    
    greggers

    re .254
    
    I kinda thought it was in the fifth, but I can't find it.
    
    (I killed the guardian already, though...)

    One of the towns folk said there is a false wall in the palace
    
    
    
    greggers

    
    All I've seen, is that everyone has downward thrust. We are in
    Palace 3, with our power at 5-6-6. Having problems getting rid
    of the little blue things that stay on the floor, and grabbing
    the key and money that's below the floor. Assume we need the
    downward thrust capability.
    
    Can someone provide this via mail or here?
    
    Thanks,
    Randy
    
    

	I've just completed palace #5 and am on to the 6th.  But do I first
	need to find and explore hidden and dead towns?  If so where-abouts
	might they be?  There is an area south of Nabooru(sp?) that I can
	not
	get to - I believe that hidden town is there somewhere.  Also,
	where
	should I look for the 6th palace?  I would appreciate a speedy rely
	since I am "chomping at the bit" to continue this game.  I am at
	8-8-8 power wise and have all magics except spell and thunder.

	All help sincerely appreciated -
	    Thanks loads
		    Debbie
		    

		<Re. .260>

	I found hidden and dead towns last night and got spell and thunder
	magic.  Now I need to find the 6th palace - again/still anxious to
	complete this game.  I do need to find the magic key that I think
	is in one of the towns I just went thru.  I would appreciate a
	quick response to this note so I can continue this game tonight.

		    Thanks for all help,
			    *Debbie*
			    
	
	        			

    Call for help at three eyes rock..
    Go to the dead end of town and use a certain magic.
    
    greggers

	    Is there a way to keep those guys behind those fences from
	    doing so much damage to Link?  Is there another route to Gannon
	    or is this the only way?  Those of you who have been thru this
	    will understand how CRAZY I am.  To get knocked in the lava
	    by some flying eyeball - on all 3 lives, yet!!!! Thanks for
	    any and all help.

		*Debbie*
			
	

	    Where are the "Link dolls"?  The ones that give you an extra
	    Link per incarnation?  If I get one of these dolls and contiue
	    once all 3 Links have perished, will the doll be back?  Or do I
	    need to power off and start again?  I don't understand how this
	    supposed to work.....

		Thanks             *Debbie*
		

    re: 264
    
    Link dolls can only be used once unless after you die you hit
    reset.
    
    As for getting throuh that rough section on the way to the
    Grand Palace.  What I usually use is spell.  If you get hit
    be one of Ganon's shadow creatures just as you are about to
    enter one of those fight scenes it works alot easier than
    going through the whole scene.
    
    greggers

    Only I would be crazy enough to do this.
    
    After not playing Link for about 2 weeks I popped the cartridge into
    the machine on Friday night, went to the Great Palace, and tried a few
    routes here and there.
    
    Frustration started to set in. I said to my son, "This is IT! I am not
    going to waste any more time on this." Well sure enough after trying a
    few more things I found what I assumed was Gannon. In no time I was
    wasted.
    
    Not wanting to go through this time and time again I decided to build
    up my lives so that I could at least be able to play without any
    pressure and study Gannon (or is it Ganon?) while fighting him.
    
    I started Saturday night and started to build up the lives. When I got
    tired of playing I just went on to other week-end things. Soon the
    lives started to pile up...10...15...20...up to about 37. Once you go
    over 9 lives you get into alpha representations of lives, e.g. A is 10,
    B is 11, etc. After Z the lives indicator is blank. Once I hit that I
    set out for the Grand Palace.
    
    I found Ganon (looks much different than I had expected) and it took
    about 5 or 6 lives to figure him out but......
    
    .....after you defeat Ganon (if that indeed was him) there is one more
    task at hand. That task was one of the most difficult, if not the most
    difficult, thing to do in the entire game. Yet, with about 8 or 9 lives
    to go, this task was completed and Hyrule was saved.
    
    And Ron Marcoux, if you're reading this....it was 10 minutes after that
    phone call that Ganon bit the dust.
    
    Defeating Ganon in the end was much more difficult than it was in
    Zelda.
    
    Link Mike (As Zelda would say, "A true hero!")

    I have a couple of questions. There have been a few responses eluding
    to the locations of heart containers but no one has responded to
    the question of where the magic containers are located. I have
    been through 5 palaces and have only 5 magic containers. Could someone 
    please respond with the locations. Also I need the location of the
    Reflect magic. Most everybody else has seemed to have found it no
    problem so I must be overlooking something simple. I need it obviously
    to complete one of the palaces that I have been through. Thanks,
    
    
    							Andre
    

   Re: 256
    Are Gannon's shadow creatures in the first set of fence throwers
    after you pass the spider or on the way to the Grand Palace.  Also
    have trouble with 6th palace.  In second pit falling episode - to
    get to the right passage do you have to hurry and change to a fairy??
    I think this is correct but want to make sure.  Having trouble finding
    the extra Link in the swamp above the graveyard on the way to 6th
    Palace.  Any hints/help.
    
    Thanks Gregger for all of your help -- you've made sanity return!!!!!!
    
    Again - thanks.
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    
        If you folks are encountering "shadow" creatures, then you
       are missing something very important in your arsenal. Unless
       you get this item, don't bother proceeding. 
    
    -rick

    What I mean by shadow creatures is....the shadow's that hit you
    and take you into a fight scene as you are wandering through
    Hyrule, not the invisibles.
    
    Your timing has to be just right....get hit by a shadow creature
    just as you are entering a long fight scene to make it a short
    one.  (less creatures)
    
    greggers
    

	<re .268>
	    Mary-Ann,
	    You are correct about turning into a fairy at that particular
	    spot.
	    Look for the Link doll along the leftside, next to the rocks.
	    I thinkk it was up about 4 or 5 rows of marsh stuff.  But it
	    was next to the rocks.

	    Good luck and hope you find it --
		    *Debbie*
		    
	  

    Thanks for the help from Debbie, Greggers, Rick, etc.  Finished
    the 6th Palace last night.   Really tough trying to get to the Grand
    Palace.  Just can't seem to get through the first cave.  If anyone
    has any suggestions, hints, spoilers on how to get to the Grand
    Palace, all will be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!
    
    Again, many thanks to all!!!
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    Mary-Ann,
    
    All I can say is to invest some time and build up to at least 5 lives
    just to play it safe.
    
    Also along the way investigate nooks and crannies for a "treasure" here
    and there.
    
    Link Mike

    Thanks Mike---will try tonight!!!!  By the way, the "nooks and
    crannies" -- are you refering to the section on the way to the Grand
    Palace or to a Thomas' English Muffin????!!!!????
    
    Many thanks again!!!
    

    
      Mary,
    
         In the caves on the path to the grand palace, try using the
       following to make it easier to kill the flying eyeballs....
    
    
    
         Spell magic changes them to the blue blobbies. Good luck!
    
    -rick

    Rick,
    
    Many thanks to you too!!!!  I will try all this tonight - I must
    have done something wrong the other night.  After I found a Link
    doll and got killed, I proceeded to "continue" the game.  When I
    went back to try and find the doll again--it was not there---Oh
    well!!!!
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    The "nooks and crannies" are places along the way to the grand palace
    which seem like a dead end or an off the beaten track road. There are
    some goodies there.
    
    I never used the spell magic for the eyeballs because I saved it for
    fairy and thunder power....scorpions hate thunder power.
    
    If/When you guys get to the Grand Palace have either a piece of paper
    and a pencil handy or tape your adventure and later map it out. Unless
    you have total recall you need to do one of these things to make it
    easy on you.
    
    Be aware of misdirection once you're in there.
    
    Also, those of you who have Nintendo Power Magazine may find that the 
    mag does not indicate everyhing about the game...just enough hints to
    keep you going.
    
    Linkster Mike

    
      Hi fellow LINKers.  I've scoureds the woods east of Kasuto town
    according to the old man in Kasuto and I cant find the old town.
 
    Question (possible spoiler)
    
    Do I have to blow the foolish horn on every square in the forest
    to find the hidden town?
    
    Ken
    

    re: .278
    
    Which town is Kasuto....I'm bad remembering the names just the
    colors.
    
    You need the hammer in the woods for the hidden town.
    
    greggers

    re. .278
    
    You have to take the underground passage to a place where only
    trees exist. Clear the trees and you will find the town.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas
    

    As I was going to the 6th palace, I grabbed a couple of Link
    Dolls along the way.  I saved the game after finishing the
    6th palace.  Now the link dolls that I got are gone.
    
    Is there anyway to get them back again, or did I goof ?
    
    Spoiler on Link Doll locations follow:


    The 1st doll I got was north of the path on the east side of the 
    cemetary on the way to palace 6.
    
    The 2nd doll was southwest of the Kings Tomb.
    
    Are there any other dolls to get ????  I have a feeling that
    I have lost those 2 forever.
    
    Thanks,
    Brian
    

    
       Yup, the save permanently "erased" the dolls.  There are others
      to be found, however. In addition, you could use the techniques 
      mentioned in previous notes to build up extra lives.  Hang in
      there, the same thing happened to me.
    
    -rick

    Rick,
    
    How about some hints/spoilers on finding other locations,  I too
    have suffered the same loss.  I found the one in the 6th palace,
    the one north in the swamp from the cemetery near the 6th palace
    and one more in the swamp near a cave near the beginning of the
    game.
    
    Would be GREEEEEAAAATTTTLLLLYYYY appreciated!!!!!!
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    There's a doll near the bridge to Maze Island.
    
    ..........steve
    

    	I am looking for the "master" in the woods north of the river.
    	I have been through what I think is every square inch of woods
    	north of the river. Is he in the section that zapps you in without
    	the ghost-like things touching you?  Is there something special
    	I should be doing, a certain sequence?  I'm assuming the woods
    	are the green tree section.
    
    	Any help would be appreciated, I've spent two nights on this
    	so far...
    
    Angela

    re: 285
    
    Right when you cross the north bridge from Water Town, start
    looking in the woods just north of the road.  There will be
    alot of those jumping cat looking creatures around.
    
    greggers

    re:.285
    Are you looking in the woods north of the river that's north of Water
    Town? Yes, he is in a section that "zaps" you in without the
    "ghost-like things" touching you.  I don't think there is anything
    special that you do.  Just go searching for him.  Look towards the
    central area(I think.  It's been awhile since I was here and things
    seem to run together after awhile) Hope I've helped more than hindered
    you in you quest.

    *Debbie*
    
    
    
    

    Hmmmmmm...
    
    Well I do recall alot of cats in one place but going back and forth
    never saw anyone.  That's why I wondered if I had to do anything
    special.  I'll try again tonight....Thanks

    
    Have had the following aggravations happen this week.
    
    Monday, we finished palace 3, got REFLECT and raised our levels
    to 6-7-7 and then saved (or so we thought !!)
    
    Last night we went to play some more and saw to our disbelieve/horror
    that it was like we didn't do anything on Monday and had to do it
    again!! After we did it again, we made SURE that we saved it correct.
    
    Well, tonight we turned it on and believe it or not, it's like we
    didn't do anything. We have to go back into Palace 3 and reget the
    REFLECT. 
    
    This is beginning to be not too much fun at this time, if this is
    going to keep up.
    
    Anybody else seen this?
    
    Thanks,
    Randy
    
    PS I know of of someone else into this game that swears she also
    saved the game and when she came back it was like she hadn't done
    anything.
    
    

    Randy,

	Are you not only selecting "save" with the select button but also
	pressing the reset button in WHILE presing the power button in to
	turn the power off?  The instruction booklet and NINTENDO say to
	follow this procedure or else data(your game and goodies you got in
	it) may be lost.
	This has happened to me.  It was a case of turning the power on
	when the game cartridge was in but not down.
	Hope this helps you.

	    *Debbie*
	    
	   
	

    
    Debbie:
    
    	YES, we have been doing exactly what we've been doing from
    ZELDA I on. We thought we had it down. Tonight, however, I replayed
    and finished Palace III, and saved it right after. I checked right
    after I finished it, and it saved it this time. I had to go out and
    my wife then went and got the RELECT thingamachig and then saved it
    again.
    
    	Hopefully when we turn it on again, we'll atleast have Palace III
    as finished, and at the most have the REFLECT still there, cus she is
    really getting frustrated/aggravated when these things happen.
    
    Thanks for your reply,
    Randy
    

	Does anybody know where Ganon(or is it Gannon?) is in the final
	palace and how to get to him?  I have been exploring and was almost
	on to something(I think) but got killed by one of those jumpin',
	singin', fire-spittin' eagles.  It was (I think) a few levels down,
	in an area that looks like you could fly up to something.  There
	was a solid "floor" of bricks(un-breakable?)that I was sanding on,
	and a little area below that I would need to get to.  Any hints,
	clues, help GREATLY appreciated.  I've been here for 2 nights now.

	Also, how many extra Links should I obtain before heading for the
	treacherous(sp?) path to the Final Palace???
	
	
	
	

    
    Gee, I'm a recent (last night) Gannon finder.  The last maze is
    excellent and you really need your head on straight to figure it
    out.  
               tips ...
    
    Have you tried
    1. Mapping - Essential to record gross outlines and note the type of
                 monster in each room.  The programmers use the same room 
                 over and over but vary the monsters sometimes.
    2. Think   - in one of the very first rooms (down 1 left one) you
                 walked along and just after the column you fell through
                 what appeared to be a solid floor.  Not all walls/floor
                 are solid.  This means you have to record on your map
                 all the walls/floors you've tested.  Persistance.
                 Some rooms you can see on your screen but can't get
                 to (this means there is another path that you haven't
                 taken).
    3. DEAD END? - Not all dead ends are dead
    4. FIRE BIRD - I've found that if you time your jump you can get
                   close to the bird and start whaling on it.  The master
                   swordsman is a lot tougher than the bird.

    major tips
    
    OK your at least persistant enough to keep reading this note
    
    The palace is 13 levels deep.  
    Gannon is at the bottom.
    Use the continue option to stay in the palace.
    I didn't need fifteen billion lives.
    The 3 the game gives you is enough.    
    When you are dying and running out of magic 
        spend a lot of time killing the little blue bon bon's 
        every 6 will give you a blue magic jar.  Fill you life up first
        so you can use the firing sword.  Then fill your magic up.
        if you go out of sight from where you found the blue drops and
        then come back they re-appear.
    
    Good luck - its not meant to be easy.  
    
    				Persistence is the key
    				and satisfaction will be your reward.
    
    Ken

         Need some help.......how do you get across the river in 
    Rivertown?  Also, do you have to bring a key from the 1st palace
    to the 2nd or are there enough in the 2nd to finish it?
    
    
    Thanks
    Bob

    I can give you some hints to help you answer your questions:* (Possible
    spoilers follow*
    In order to cross the river, first you must "talk" to the blue
    "blob-thing" that sits on a bench in one of the houses in Water Town
    -he'll (the blob-thing) tell you what to do

    As for the second palace and keys, what I did was to close -that is
    finish, turn to stone- the first palace(you'll use all the keys found
    in palace #l in palace #l - at least I did) then I went on and did what
    I could - find palace #3, start fighting the monsters in it, looking
    for things.  You'll get "fairy magic" in I think it's Mido Town - with
    Fairy Magic you can fly thru locked doors WITHOUT a key.  That's how I
    finished palace #2.  Good Luck and I hope this helps
    you.................
	*Debbie*
    
    
  
    
    
    
    
    

         Thanks Debbie...I'll give it a try.  I figured there was more
    to that little blob than "zzz...".  
    
    
    Bob

    
    Above HOW MANY ground dolls - , i.e;  NOT the ones found in castles
    
    Need to confirm the number available.   I'm finished with castles
    1 - 6.  I'm now getting/using the dolls for level 7 (I don't "save"
    the game - and am able to "re" get the dolls each game).
                                                           
    Any help appreciated
    
    thx, Dan
    
    unknown if spoiler;  re: how many I'm getting
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                                       
    
    
    
    I'm currently getting four.........

    Dan,
	According to notes .281 - .284 there are a total of 4 dolls.  I
	don't know of any other than the ones mentioned in these notes but
	it sure would help if there were more.  By the way, once you've got
	these dolls and gone to the final palace and been done it, would I
	press "CONTINUE" to play again from the place in which I perished?
	How could I continue the game without losing the Link dolls?

	    Thanks,
		    *Debbie*
		    
	





    [text]

    For those of you trying to locate Ganon...
    
    There are basically three main paths in the palace...I suggest you
    avoid spending any time on the left side of the palace.
    
    Remember how palace #6 was designed? There are similarities.
    
    Mike

Re:  .294 and .295

Having just finished the second palace this weekend, it is fresh in my
memory that it has all the keys in it that you need to finish.  I have
not gotten 'fairy' magic  and have completed the palace, so there have
to be enough keys!  Just keep looking and killing... 


A question of my own for all the experts:  After finishing the first
two palaces I have the candle and the glove and know how to cross the
river at the rivertown.  Should I have found anything else before I
cross?  I thought I had explored thoroughly but I feel like I'm missing
something -- still haven't gotten into the caves that have rocks in
front of them, should I or is that just a teaser?

Thanks in advance for the help, I love this game!


Jan

	    You need the hammer.  It will help you enter those caves
	    blocked by large rocks, even make it easier to go from place
	    to place.  You'll be able to get to the rest of the areas that
	    you need to get to in order to find the other palaces.  Need
	    any hints or help in locating this hammer, send me mail and
	    I'll lend a hand in your quest.

		*Debbie*
		
	    
	    

    re:  .298
    
    Hi Debbie,
    
    Once in castle seven - and get wiped out:  when you press "continue"
    you'll start at the beginning of seven with three lives.
    
    When you finished for the day....  DON'T PRESS "SAVE" - just press
    the reset - You'll have your dolls back the next time. 
    
    (there is another doll in seven - I forget where it is.... is there
    an easy way to find it and/or is it worth it, re:  getting to where
    it is...)
    
    Dan

    
    For those of you who have Killed Gannon
    
    
    Wow, was the shadow link a good opponent !  When I first came up
    against him I died immediately.  The second time I died scoring only
    one hit.  Finnaly I figured it out and killed him without getting
    hit even once.
    
    Was anyone else as impressed as I was?  This was the first opponent
    in a video game that had an equal footing.  The only thing that
    shadow link didn't have was magic ability.  I hope that the logic
    that was invested in shadow link is used in future games that nintendo
    release.
    
    How to kill shadow link ...
    
    
    This guy was jumping all over me and killing me.
    So I stopped jumping.  Then I stopped thrusting my sword and just
    watched what this guy does.
    
    He hits low almost all the time.
    He jumps to both sides of me.
    
    So to kill him I just stayed low waited for him to jump 
    quickly moved over to where he was about to land and turbo sword thrust 
    He lands on your sword taking a hit.
    
    This works about 33-66% of the time.

    One neat thing... At one point shadow link jumped over me and hid
    behind the column on the right.  I couldn't help but laugh.  He
    didn't even move until I went over to flush him out.
    
    
    Ken who wishes there was a second quest
    

    I am currently working on Palace 6 and have everything but spell,
    thunder and the magic key.  I have 8 heart containers but only 6 magic
    containers.  Can anyone give any spoilers on the locations of the magic
    containers.  This is driving me crazy.  Great game!
    
    Pete
    

    Re: .304 by SKYR::NAYLOR
    
    I have of list of where the magic jars and hearts are located, but
    there is one small error on my list.  I wrote down the location
    of another item as the location of one of the magic jars.  However,
    I believe that the following hint is accurate.
    
    Hint for location of magic jars (hidden behind formfeed):
    
    The is one magic jar in each of the major divisions of the game.
    
    	Stapes

When treking to the GRAND PALACE I usually play around in the wood by
the marsh and grave yard until I get a red jar to fill all my magic
and life up.  Then I position myself on the road N of the entrance 
that is below the grave yard.  A quick step into the woods and back
onto the road will get the blackies to hit you on the road.  After
this you will have the maximum time to traverse the graveyard unscathed.
    
There are no shortcuts.  You have to run the gauntlet.

tips on running the guantlet ...

I found an easy way though.  You need 4-5 lives.

When you land on a square that always pops up a sub screen
and you have to pass 2 lizards.  Immediately go to fairy and 
quickly fly right throught the lizards and the whole screen.

When the black creatures place you in a sub screen immediately
set the spell command and use it.  This should turn the two
floating eyeballs into blue bon bons.  Then wait for one
floating eyeball and one coconut floating eyeball then use 
spell again.  Leave in the direction you killed the floating
coconut eyeball.

Oh one other thing - the first cave I just run through no magic.
Because it has several hills the floating eyeballs have a hard
time adjusting to your trajectory and hitting you.  I get hit
from 0 to 2 times.

The second cave I spell the scorpion and after the screen
refreshes I fairy through the rest.

Ken
    
P.S. In this game being a fairy is the only way to live (sometimes).
     (why does a shiver go down my spine when I say this?)

    Hello,
    
         I wander if anyone can help me with info on how to get the
    MAGIC LIFE? I have been trying to find and kill Gannon with 3 lives
    without any luck. I realized that I have to find some mirror for
    one of the girls. But I forgot which town she is in. Also I think
    I have been everywhere. I have all 8 magic and life containers, and
    everything else except the MAGIC LIFE ...

    Thanks,

    Kostas

    Re: .307 -

	Hello there! I myself am trying to defeat Gannon - but I've still
	got to FIND him first!  I think the town you are looking for is
	*possible spoiler*
	It's either Mido, Water Town, or Nabooru(sp?) or even could be
	Darunia.   It's been awhile since I was looking for this magic,
	that I forget exactly where it is.  When you get to the town and
	a woman tells you"I lost my mirror" then I suggest *possible
	spoiler*
	you look in all the empty houses.  You can "talk" to chimneys,
	tables, people.  That's how you find something.  "Talk" to
	different objects.  I hope this is some help to you.
	    *Debbie*
 	    
	    

    Re: .-1

    Debbie,

          Thank you for the help on where to find the mirror.

    spoiler follows <FF>:

    The mirror is actually in the same town where the girl tells you
    "I lost my mirror". The town is Water Town. And the mirror is on the 
    house which is next to the house where the girl is. Inside is only a 
    table. Just talk to the table, then go back to the girl and she will 
    let you in the house ... . In the basement you will find a magicial
    who will give you magic  LIFE ... 50.
   
    As far as getting to Gannon I have been up to seven levels deep and 
    getting closer. I have not mapped anything yet, I hope I do not have 
    to. I have to compete with my six and a half years old son with this.
    Both of us are in the same state of the game.

    Regards,

    Kostas
	    

    Hello,
    
         I finally got to the end of this game. In the process I managed
    to record on video tape my adventure from the entrance to the end.
    
    Since the video tape also had the level 9 of the first and second
    quest of Zelda infront of it I will try to make another tape that
    just contains the Adventure of Link on the final palace, and make
    that tape available to anyone to borrow for viewing.
    
    Until then I will try to write down how to get and defeat Gannon.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas
    

    
    I may be wrong about this but.......
    
    
    
        There isn't a Gannon in this game. Unless you are calling that
      floating death angel, Gannon.  Just for those that have been
      fruitlessly searching for a big fat slobbering character with
      fangs and a scowl.  
    
    -rick

    re. .-1
    
    spoiler on the shape of Gannon follows <FF>
    
    
    
    Gannon is not that floating death angel, but the shadow Link in
    the next room. 
    
    Gannon is the negative of Link, which is the shadow of Link.

    /k
    

    Okay, I give up...where is the $@#@&@@* hammer!!  I have looked
    and looked with no luck.  Any hints or spoilers welcome at this
    point. 
    		A frustrated hammerless Linkster!!

	Dear frustratd:

	I can help you on the location of the hammer - *possible spoiler
	follows form feed*Look in death mountain for this hammer.  If
	you need more of a hint than this, send me mail and I'll tell you
	where it's at.
		*Debbie*
		

    re. .-1
    
    Spoiler follows the <FF> on the location of the hammer.
    
    
    
    You have to go through the death mountain all the way. 
    At the end turn left and go to the place where a black square is
    near a stone, fall into the hole.
    
    Enjoy.
    /Kostas
    

  
  Map of the Grand Palace behind form feed.  If you care for a map with more
  info, send mail and I will send it to you.




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     I may be missing a few rooms at the bottom of the map...
     At this point, I really don't care about them, because I
     am STUCK at the room before the "?".  If anybody out there
     could give me a hint/downright spoiler, I'd be very happy!!
     
     Oh, I never introduced myself!  I am Suzette.

    re. .-1
    
    Suzette,
    
           I have finished the game. I can not follow your map, what
    is the enemy look like in the ? room? 
    
    If it is ...
    
    major spoiler follows the <FF>
    
    
    
    If it is the flying red demon, then make sure you have full magic
    and use your MAGIC THUNDER this will make the red demon blue
    which means now your strikes will take away from its life, then
    use your MAGIC SHIELD this will reduce the hits you take and there
    is still magic left over to use MAGIC JUMP for high jumps to strike
    at the demon.
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas
    
    This is nothing in the next room there is another ...
    
    

    
    
      But, but, but,  I DO use all the magics mentioned, and I STILL
      can't even make a dent in it!!! 
      I am in the room B4 the "?".  (to the left of it)  I put the "?"
      there because I don't know what is there yet (YET!).
    
      Is there someplace special I should be standing or whatever, to
      kill this thing?
    
      Suzette
      

    re. .-1
    
    Spoiler follows the <FF>
    
    
    
    Suzatte,
    
       you only make damage to it if you hit it on the head. Just keep
    moving around and jump and hit it on the head.
    
    Enjoy,
    /K
    

    Hi Suzzette,
    
               I find that after selecting all the magics (jump, Thunder,
    Shield) that you have to stand exactly on top of and in the center of
    the altar. I find that I usually won't even get hit even when it comes
    down low! It will strike however when you try and hit it and miss.
    
    I don't bother moving since s/he starts clobbering me when I do.
    
    Hope this helps

	Would some kind soul PLEASE send me by mail a real honest to
	goodness SPOILER on HOW to defeat Link's shadow!!!!?!?!?!?  I just
	met up with him and he's defeated me and I didn't EVEN DAMAGE HIM
	AT ALL!!!!  Please, before I go nuts, somebody help
	me...................

	    Frustrated Debbied        
	    

	RE: .322

	    Nevermind.  I just defeated Links shadow and I feel great!!!
	    If anyone needs any help on this game, I'll be glad to send
	    answers by mail.  Boy, am I glad that I finished this
	    game...........
			*Linkette Debbie*
			

         Help.......I have finished the 2nd palace and have the following:
    
    Candle
    Glove
    Hammer
    Life
    Jump
    Shield
    Live - 8
    Magic - 7
    Sword - 6
    
         I believe I need the water of life for the sick girl in order
    to get the fairy magic.  Is this correct and, if so, where is the
    water??  How do I get to the 3rd palace?  There's suppose to be
    a tunnel south of the graveyard but when I go there it doesn't look
    like there's anywhere else to go.
         Any help appreciated!
    
    
    Bob

    Re:  324
    
    Since I have played for 16 continuous hours this weekend, I think
    that I can answer part of your question.  I do not remember where
    I found the water of life, but if I do, I'll let you know.
    
    Kathy
    
    Note:  Possible spoiler follows:
    
    In order to find the entrance to palace 3 follow these steps:
    
    When you are above the graveyard (on the road) position Link at
    the 4th grave/cross in the top row (horizontal).  Continue south
    until you reach "King's Tomb".  Try to avoid entering the tomb since
    it throws off your coordinates.  Continue south in the fourth row
    (vertical), and you will "fall" into a tunnel which brings you to
    the entrance of palace.  Hope this helps.  Good luck!
    
    
    

    re: .325
    
    Sorry, but I entered my note before I noticed my mistake.  Correction
    on finding the 3rd palace.  
    
    Again, possible spoiler follows.
    
    Kathy
    
    When you fall into the tunnel, you will come upon an extremely
    high wall.  The only way to get over this wall is to have your fairy
    magic.  I know, you're saying how do I get the fairy magic!?  Honestly,
    I do not remember, but as soon as I do, you'll be the first to know.
    

    Re:  Last few
    
         Thanks for all the tips, both here and thru mail!!  I think
    I can find both the fairy magic and the 3rd palace now.  The only
    other question I have is how, exactly, do you use the fairy magic..
    as in how do you control where you fly, etc.??
    
    Thanks again
    Bob

	To use fairy magic (I'm not sure if this would be a spoiler so I'll
	put a form feed in to be sure)*possible spoiler follows form
	feed*
	You need to press 'select' then choose fairy(where you choose which
	magic you want to use) then you press 'select' again to return to
	the normal viewing screen, press 'b' and Link will turn into a
	fairy! He can fly up/down/sideways - you  control where he goes by
	moving your joystick/button in the direction you want him to go in
	-
	but he cannot pick items up or break blocks while he's a fairy so
	this magic has its drawbacks - but it's nice to have -
	also, magic only lasts till the screen changes - i.e. black screen
	very short pause and screen is re-painted.

	Good luck and try to be sure to quit playing ay
	2A.M.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	   *Debbie*
	   
	    
	    

King's Thingie/3RD Castle

When you exit King's Tomb, go straight south (down) and you'll fall into
the tunnel. You might have some problems if you try to find it without 
entering the tomb scene (like having to fight inside the graveyard if some 
boogie-man catches ya!!!)

Al

Ok, I'm frustrated and I admit it.  I'm having problems with the first guardian
in the first palace.  He's the guy in the punk outfit with the horses head 
and a great batting average.  (He never misses my Link!).  I've tried stabbing
this guy all over without ever making a dent in his life marks.  I'm at level 
three for magic and attack and level four for life.  I just want a minor spoiler.
Can he be killed with just the sword, or have I missed something and should I go
hunting for more stuff before taking him on again?

thanks in advance for the help...

tom

		<Re: .330>

		To defeat horsehead you*possible spoiler follows formfeed*
		
		Link only needs to JUMP high and strike hard with his sword

		    Good luck

		    *Debbie*		

    Has anyone else tried this?:
    Go to a room in a palace where blocks fall from the ceiling (palaces
    2 and 3 have this, perhaps more, I don't remember).  Allow all the
    blocks to fall, and then cut away a stairway with your sword until
    you reach the top.  (In this part of the screen you should be
    overlapping the life/magic meters.)  Select fairy magic.  When you
    press the button to turn into a fairy the screen will flash but
    you will not change.  If you then press the jump button, you will
    change.  When you try to move in any direction, the screen switches
    to that fall mode where the background flashes by.  Depending on
    where you were on the screen and what direction you tried to move in,
    seems to determine where you will end up after the fall scene.
    In one case you are taken to the entrance of the palace on the roof
    with the elevator embedded in the wall.  If you jump down to ground
    level and then fall down the empty elevator shaft, it goes to the
    fall scene and then places you in the elevator embedded in the wall.
    Then going up (it will not let you go down), you become embedded
    in the ground under the stairs to the palace.  Other variations
    allow you to travel on the ceilings from room to room.  It's quite
    strange.
    
    Chris
         

    Has anyone else seen this problem?  
    
    I made it to the Grand Palace.  Defeated the Blue Demon, or whatever
    you call it.  Started to fight the shadow.....lost the first time,
    but started the Grand Palace again.  About one minute into the game
    the screen stopped right in the middle of play.  The only way to
    clear the problem was to power off.  No big deal except I would
    have to defeat the demon again.  The game has worked with no other
    problems up to this point.
    
    However, after about a minute into the game my original problem
    returned.  No matter what I tried (cleaning, re-seat, kicking) what
    ever, the problem would not go away.  I even tried the game in another
    system and the problem was still with the game.
    
    I called Nintendo.  They appear to know of this problem and suggested
    that I send the game in for replacement/repair.  
    
    Anyway, just wondering if anyone else has seen this and to mention
    a possible "bug".
    
    Carl
    
                     

    
    We have the same trouble with our Link game. We have finished up
    to Palace 6 and are heading to the Grand Palace, the screen just
    stops (no music, nothing). How long does it take to get a Cartridge
    replaced through the Nintendo people?  I guess if you have to have
    it replaced... it is certainly worth the wait!  What a great game!
    
    Addicted to Link!!!!
    
    Lynda Fitz
    

    Re: last two
    
         But won't you have to start over???  I'm just getting to the
    6th palace and I will be very unhappy if mine has the same problem.
    I DON'T want to start this game over....it's taken me too long to
    get where I'm at!!
    
    
    Bob

    I had to send all of the following to Nintendo due to one of the
    cartridges "blowing out" my console;
    
    Link cartridge, Zelda cartridge, console and adaptor.
    
    I sent it next day air and Nintendo sent it back Fedexp.
    
    Took about 10 days to 2 weeks, they adjusted my Zelda tape, changed
    my console and adaptor, and sent a new Link.
    
    They also set the Link cartridge to the exact settings the old one
    was at so I didn't lose anything. 
    
   Hope this helps.

    I absolutely positively cannot kill the horsehead! I'm so frustrated
    that I can't stand to look at the nintendo cartridge!!!!!!!!
    
    Please help!
    
    I have 2-3-4, 5 life and 5 magic, life,sheild,jump magic. I tried
    jumping high and stabbing but I just jump over his head everytime.
    
    I CAN"T STAND THIS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!HELP!!!!!

    Spoiler on killing horsehead:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    This one is really easy if you know the trick, but almost impossible
    if you don't.  Stand to the far left of the screen.  When the horsehead
    approches, simply jump up and swing your sword.  DO NOT jump at
    the horsehead!!  Just jump up.  The horsehead will be killed
    (eventually) and you will not get a scratch.
    
    By the way, the Official Nintendo Playing Guide describes this hint
    also (in less detail).  It is a great help for the first few castles
    if you are stuck.
    
    Good luck.
    

         I need some help finding one more magic container in order
    to get the magic in Hidden Town.  Does anyone have a list of where
    they are?  I looked all over the place for hours last night and
    couldn't find one......any help GREATLY appreciated!
    
    
    Bob

    
re: -1 Possible spoiler
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I found a magic container in the maze that you go thru to get to
    Palace #4. I could also use a little assistance...
    
    
     I have shield, jump, life, fairy, fire and reflect magic and candle,
    glove, raft, boot and hammer. I cannot seem to find the flute and
    I am having a heck of a time trying to kill the devil in palace
    #4. Can someone help direct me to the flute, how to find the hidden
    town and what I can try to do to kill the devil.
    
    
    Muchly appreciated
    
    Wayne

    Thanks to all for their words of wisdon and advice...I am having
    a heck of a time around Palace #6. I have shield, life, jump, 
    fairy, fire, reflect and spell for magic and candle, hammer, 
    boot, flute, magic key, glove and raft for items. When I 
    approach the rocks and play my tune, nothing happens. Am 
    I just losing my mind or is there somethingthat I am 
    desperately missing. Any help would be appreciated.
    
    Wayne

    Wayne.....get in the middle of the rocks and play the flute.  
    Sometimes you have to do it more than once and/or try different
    places between the rocks.
    
    
    Bob

	Wayne,
	    You have to be in a line with the two bottom rocks:

			    X
		     X      *     X

	X = rock
	* = Link

	    When in this position, try blowing the flute.The castle wil
	    should appear *possible spoiler follows form feed*
	    appear south of where you are standing.  Good Luck,

	*Debbie*	    

    Bob,
    
    Please tell me where to find the H2o to cure the ailing child.
    
    Thanks
    
    L.L.L. (little lost link)

    The H2o is
    
    spoiler
    
    
    
    
    I believe you have missed a cave.  The cave is shown on the
    map in the instruction booklet, so it's fairly early on in the
    game.
    
    AM

         Any and all spoilers / tips wanted:  How do you get through
    the !@%@%!#@!% caves to the final palace???  Just can't seem to
    make it thru....I barely made it into the first one!
    
    
    Thanks
    Bob

    Bob,
    
    I must be missing something, I have been through the cave in the Tantari 
    dessert, the cave that leads to the first castle and the cave that leads 
    to the swamp. I obtained the trophy in the dessert and various other 
    things in the other caves, but no Water of Life! Can you tell me exactly 
    where to find the Water of life. 
    
    Thanks for your help. 
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)

minor spoiler for the water of life 

Do you have the hammer?  You need it.

major spoiler 

It's in a cave blocked by a stone.  I believe the cave that's in the swamp.
If not there, to the east of the road to the east of the swamp there's 
another cave with a stone blocking it...  In either case you'll need the hammer
to chop the stones up and gain entrance into the caves.

tom

    Tom,
    
    Thank you for your response, I will try it tonight. This is my first
    shot at Link and it is GREAT!!! 
    
    ON TO THE CAVE!!!!
    
    L.L.L.

    I picked up Adventures of Link at Stuarts in Nashua on Sunday for
    37.95.  The sold all of them by 9:15.  I also saw them in Zayre's
    on Sunday for 39.99 and they had about a dozen.  Ya might give them
    a call...
    
    
    ...Ed

    I was running around in the Great Palace last night when I ran into
    the big orange thing that flew back and forth over links head dropping
    fire balls . It was similar to the keepers of the first six palaces in
    that there were red squares to the left that showed the enemies
    strength. If you use thunder magic on this guy, he turns orange. I got
    wiped out before beating him. Was this supposed to be the final battle 
    and if not, how much further to the end?
    
    mike
    

    I am having trouble with castle #4.  I invoked reflect to subdue
    the red ghost guardian but it had no effect.  What didn't I do?
    What is reflect supposed to do when it is invoked.  I'm really
    confused. I've read all the notes in 41 and they all say to use
    reflect and defeating the guardian is trivial.  I can't do it. 
    Any suggestions.... Thanks for any help.
    
    MKO Jeff

    Mike,
    This thing that you found is a 'death angel' and it is the last thing
    you need to defeat before Link's shadow.  Some tips on how to kill this
    thing follow the form feeds

    Are you sure you want to know???

    Really sure?
    Ok, if you've read this far, you're sure so here goes:

    You need to use some of your magics: JUMP, SHIELD, REFLECT, THUNDER.

    If you want to know what order to use them in and more specifics on
    how to defeat this dude/dudette send me some mail and I'll gladly
    tell you more..............in the meantime, good luck
    you're not far from the end and saving Zelda and Hyrule. Go Link, GO!!

    *Debbie*

RE: Using Reflect



Invoke it, then get close to the big bad dude and "reflect" his shots
with your shield.

    On using reflect:

	You need to invoke reflect, then kneel/crouch and just wait it out
	the fireballs or whatever this thing is shooting at you will
	reflect back to him and he will end up killing himself.   What
	I did was *possible spoiler follows form feed*
	invoke reflect as soon as I saw the red squares on the left, the
	dude's life meter - then kneel/crouch at the left hand side of the
	screen and waited - it takes a while but this guy will end up
	biting the dust - and all you do is kneel/crouch there, isn't that
	easy?  Just remember how easy you had it in this castle/palace when
	you get to the final palace - it's a toughie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Good luck and have fun,

	*Debbie*
	

    Thanks to all for responding to my delemna in .355.  I got through
    Palace #4 and #5 in notime afterwards.  I have another question
    that somebody might be able to answer.  I currently have 7-8-8 and
    all the magic accept for spell & thunder.  I found the dead town
    and castle #6.  Should I try to find the hidden town before going
    into castle #6.  I tried to search around the forests near three-rock
    but so far no luck...I'm a close to where I will find the town?
    Any spoilers pinpointing where the town is will relieve the anxiety
    and stress that I am currently experiencing playing this game....What
    A Game....Well worth the $49.99 I paid for it.
    
    Thanks.
    Jeff

    
    Well, since my last reply I made it through the first palace and am now
    trying palace 3. I am at 5-5-6 and have hammer
    glove,candle,fairy,life,jump, and sheild magic. I can also stab down.
    My bigget problem is...
    
    
    I CAN'T GET TO THE THIRD PALACE WITHOUT LOSING AT LEAST ONE LIFE!!!!!!
    
    Those stupid eyeballs get me continuoly. Once in combat with them I
    have absolutly no satisfactory way of escaping without major injury.
    And I cannot consistently get to the right place to get to the castle.
    
    And another thing that bugs me...Everytime I fall down the tunnel I
    land on one of the shell things and lose life!
    
    
    Can anyone help me!! I'm getting too frustrated to play!!!!!!!
    
    Barbara_who_really_wants_to_get_through_palace_3_but_never_gets_past_
           _the_second_knight

Possible spoilies;



>    Those stupid eyeballs get me continuoly. Once in combat with them I

Which stupid eyeballs do you mean? The little floating eggheads in the
woods? If so, I never bothered fighting them at this point in the
game... just jump over them using the down-thrust. Even if their eyes
are closed you'll just clank off without getting hurt.

>    And another thing that bugs me...Everytime I fall down the tunnel I
>    land on one of the shell things and lose life!
    
Use the down-thrust again, while you're falling. Or, just hold on to either
the left or right arrow while you fall.    

Al

    The eyeballs in the grave yard. You know the red blobs with the giant
    eye that take you points and you life away!!
    
    They come at you in waves. Once you're hit you are stuck in the middle
    of the wave and can't get out!!!! I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    Barbara
    

    re: getting to palace 3
    Possible spoiler:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	The eyeballs in the graveyard are indeed hard to get by.  You
    need to avoid them.  Do this by waiting close to the road directly
    north of kings tomb.  When the things come out to get you, get back
    on the road.  Then you can exit by moving left or right.  Immediately
    move down to get to kings tomb.  You can almost always avoid getting
    caught this way.   Then move down to the tunnel from kings tomb.
    
    	It got so I never had to fight the eyeballs in the graveyard.
    Your other question was answered previously.  Good luck.
    
    

    We've found the last castle and have the cross but can not find the
    place to set the crystal.  We thought we've searched every room in that
    castle but obviously haven't.  Can anyone tell me EXACTLY where to find
    the place to set the crystal in that castle?
    
    bs

I am a poor little Linkster who has lost his way....

Need to know three things,
1)  Where are the seven containers
2)  How do you know, or remember how many you have,
3)  Where is the magic key...

I am in serious mental anguish with this game.  Need major league spoilers.
After months of looking for the game, I am losing years of life.

Please help this Linkster find his way home....

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    Once again I find myself writing to my fellow Linksters in the wee
    hours of the night.......
    
    WHERE DO I FIND REFLECT MAGIC!!!! SPOILERS ACCEPTED!!!!!
    
    Thank You
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)

    I have been struggling trying to get through Castle/Palace #6 for
    about 2 weeks and am about at the end of my ropes. I am either 
    falling down endless tunnels or being harrasses by blue flying 
    things. Can I get some minor assistance from someone as to who
    I could possible get through this blasted Palace. 
    
    Thanks,
    Wayne

    
    Reflect magic
    
    
    
    Find the women's missing child and she will take you in her house where
    there is an old man.
    
    
    The missing child is in the maze

	Wayne,
	    I just sent you a map of palace #6 - I hope it helps you
	    to complete this palace - if not just send me mail and I'll
	    help as much as I can.

		*Debbie*

    
    Where is the Magic Key? (I've already found the hidden town
    of Kaskuto)
    
    P.S I know that it's in there. I can't find the seventh conatiner.
    
                               Eric Jr. (7 Yrs. old)

	Eric:,
	    Did you find the containers that were/are *spoiler follows
	    form feed*
		Under the rock by the cave where you got the hammer and



		in the maze of maze island ?  Then there are two others
		that I can think of *spoiler follows form feed*
		1 in the cave by/near where palace #2 is/was and

		in the Parapas desert the desert that the first
		palace/castle is/was?

		After you get all the magic containers go back to hidden
		town, a man or wizard will give you the eighth contaier
		and then at another house you will get spell magic then
		go to the end of town and*spoiler follows form feed*
		cast a spell and see what happens and explore!!!!

		Good luck, this game is fun!!!

		*Debbie*
		
		text]

		    The previous note is meant to be RE: .375

			    *Debbie*

    
    I have a few questions
    
    How do I get past that big black spider in East Hyrule. I've walked 
    all over and found Naroonnu, and Darunia and I have been through
    most of palace 4. I can't find the heart container 'over the ocean'
    
    When I walk on the ocean I can only go so far and I can't continue 
    across. No sign of a heart. 
    
    I can get past this giant black spider and continue exploring.
    
    Cannot find the hidden or the dead town. And what is east fo Naboroo?
    
    HELP!!!
    
    
    Barbara
    

     How do I get past that big black spider in East
    most of palace 4. I can't find the heart container 'over the ocean'
    
    When I walk on the ocean I can only go so far and I can't continue 
    across. No sign of a heart. 
    
    I can get past this giant black spider and continue exploring.
    
    Cannot find the hidden or the dead town. And what is east fo Naboroo?
    
    HELP!!!
    
    
    Barbara
    

   < How do I get past that big black spider in East Hyrule.> 

    *SPOILER*You need the flute the spider (he's called a river devil)
    < I can't find the heart container 'over the ocean'>
    *SPOILER*You need to go ne of the island palace
   < When I walk on the ocean I can only go so far and I can't continue 
    across. No sign of a heart.> 
    *SPOILER*Try going in different directions -not just across but up -
    
   < I can get past this giant black spider and continue exploring.>
    *SPOILER*With the flute, you will be able to pass him.
    
   < Cannot find the hidden or the dead town.>*SPOILER*Dead Town is se
   of the cemetary and hidden town is found among some trees on a beach
   that you come upon after going thru a cave.
   
   < And what is east fo Naboroo?>
   *SPOLER*There is an island east of Nabooru that has ? on it and
   north east of Nabooru is Maze Island which has ? on it.  Both must be
   explored.  Good Luck!!

    *Debbie* 
        
        

    I don't understand something...
    
    when one pushes a little black button on the control (start, i think)
    and that sub-menu comes up (shows SHEILD     016..., JUMP     034...)
    and all that stuff...
    
    what do the numbers represent??  why was there a 34 next to sheild,
    now it is 16, and why is it that when i got JUMP magic, why doesn't
    it show on the sub-menu??
    
    this game is confusing me with all these numbers and levels and
    stuff....
    
    please explain..
    
    toni
    

    RE: -1
    
    	The numbers indicate how much magic you must spend to activate
    the function.  SHIELD   016   means you need to use 16 units of
    magic (one white box is 16 units) to activate SHIELD.  The numbers
    get lower as you increase your magic number (the ATTACK, MAGIC,
    LIFE values at the top of the screen which can get up to 8, 8, 8).
    
    	You mentioned JUMP in your example, so I don't understand the
    question about not seeing jump on the sub-screen.
    
    	Hope this helps.
    

    HELP PLEASE!! 
    (1)  I need to know where to find the Magic Flute.  
    
    (2) I also need to know if I have to kill the wizard ghosts in the
    island castle. The ones that slide fire magic towards you when they
    appear. 
    
    (3) I have found a key that is located behind a brick wall in the same
    castle and I can't get to it. How do you get to it! I have been in this
    castle for over a week and I am about to go *!@#$#@# crazy.
    
    Thanks 
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)

    L.L.L, one of the townspeople had a hint about item (3).

                           RE: .383
			   *Spoiler Warning*
			   


    
    HELP PLEASE!! 
    < I need to know where to find the Magic Flute.>
    
      On where to find the flute, it's*spoler after form feed*in palace
      #5
      
       
    < I also need to know if I have to kill the wizard ghosts in the
    island castle. The ones that slide fire magic towards you when they
    appear.>
     
    If you don't, they'll make your life MISERALE
    
    < I have found a key that is located behind a brick wall in the same
    castle and I can't get to it.>

    *spoiler follows form feed*have you tried walked thru walls, on BOTH
    sides of the key?  It's been awhile since I was at this particular
    point in the game, but I think that is what you need to do.  Either that
    or break the wall with your sword/glove.

    Good luck and I hope these help you,

    *Debbie*  
  
   
  
    

    HELP AGAIN,            
    
    (1) Is the island castle, castle number five? That Is where I am.
    
    (2) Will I locate the flute when I find the key mentioned below? The
        key I can see but can't get to.
    
    (3) I have killed everything including the wizzrobe fire starters and the
        castle still will not turn to stone. I assume to presume it is because 
        I still have not located the key behind the wall. I have gone through 
        every inch EXCEPT the two inch hole in SOME wall SOMEWHERE in this DAMN 
        castle that leads to the DAMN key!!!! Please can someone tell me 
        exactly where to find this DAMN thing??? I can see the key but I 
        can't ge to it.
    
 Thanks
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)

    re: .-1
    
    Swearing won't help.  (I tell myself this every time the monster at the
    bottom of the Grand Castle stomps on me in 10 seconds flat.)
    
    A spoiler for the key:
    
    Do you remember fighting one of those blue knights that fires daggers
    at you?  And after all your trouble, there was nothing but a blank wall
    after you killed him?
    
    Explore around there a bit.  Try jumping around, just to see what
    happens.
    
    If that's not enough, go to that room where you can see the key you
    can't get to.  Go down another level, and as far to the right as you
    can...  I'll bet you can go farther than you thought.

    RE 41.387
    
    Thanks for the hints, I am now on the last leg of my adventure and I
    must say castle six is a bit harder than the others. I have found
    castle seven but decided to not enter as I know I would be stomped into 
    Link burgers (sausage?). This is an extremely well thought out game and
    my hat is off to the people who made it all possible. I don't know what 
    I would do if I didn't have Link to look forward to after a long day of 
    selling in this wonderful Texas economy. 
    
    So when do we get ZELDA III?
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)
    

    
    
    Hi!  With help from the last 3 replies I got through the false wall in 
    palace 5. But now I'm stuck with the guardian, no matter what I do that
    stupid ball and chain get me!!!!! Any pointers?
    
    Thanks!
    

    This guy is relatively easy to defeat, once you understand how to do
    so - if you notice, he swings a couple of times, then stops to rest,
    then swings a couple of times, then stops to rest.  It's during the
    times that he is resting that Link needs/should 'rush' in and clobber
    him and when he starts swinging, retreat to the left side of the screen
    and repeat this process.  It may take a little longer than you want it
    to to, but things are starting to get difficult at about this point in
    the game, so good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	    *Linkette Debbie*
    

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TYFYS::MOLLER "Halloween the 13th on Elm Street #7"  11 lines   9-MAY-1989 14:28
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    This guy is relatively easy to defeat, once you understand how to do
    so - if you notice, he swings a couple of times, then stops to rest,
    then swings a couple of times, then stops to rest.  It's during the
    times that he is resting that Link needs/should 'rush' in and clobber
    him and when he starts swinging, retreat to the left side of the screen
    and wait for this guy to rest again and then repeat this process over
    and over and eventually Link will prevail.  Things are starting to get
    more difficult at about this point in the game so GOOD LUCK, Zelda is
    waiting for you to rescue her.

	*Linkette Debbie    

    O.K. I give up! I've looked for a week now but I can't find them
    so I need your help. Where are the Boots??? Where is the bell???
    A major help down the right path, Please!
    
    Link the Giant Killer

    To Link the Giant Killer (and any others in this same situation):

	The boots are NOT under a rock.  They are in a palace.  How far
	have you gotten - what palace was the last one that you explored.
	This game is set up so that you find what you need just before you
	need it to go any further.  You will need the boots in order to
	*Possible spoiler*
	reach palace #5 - the island palace - so does that help you figure
	out where the boots are??

	And I know of no bell, only a flute and it also is in a palace  but
	not the same one that the boots are in.  You will need the flute
	to*possible spoiler*
	to find palace #6 so that should help you figure out which palace
	the flute is in.

	If you still need help after these clues, send me mail and I'll
	gladly help you! Good luck,

	*Debbie*
	

    Bell spoilers:
    
    There isn't a bell, as such.
    
    There *IS* someplace that a bell might be useful.  I'd suggest you
    explore this area thoroughly, both high and low.
    
    Final hint:  If you see a totally black doorway or floor - Link can go
    through it, if he can reach it.

    Thanks Debbie and the person "waiting on the bus". I found the boots
    and I thought the bell had to be found and given back to the town.
    I've been inside there and got the "prize" but I thought there was
    more to it. So anyway now I'm on the next palace and "loving every
    minute of it" Great game!!!!
    
    Link the Giant Killer (now with boots on)

    Any hints on trying to get to the Grand Palace.  Haven't played
    for awhile but gonna get back into it shortly (been doin' spring
    cleaning!!!).  What I need are some "spoilers" on how may extra
    Links I should have before attempting to go on the pathway to the
    Palace.  Also, where to acquire Links quickly (extra points to get
    the extra Links).  
    
    Last but not least some real good hints/spoilers on how to conquer
    the last Palace.  Thanks in advance!!!
    
    Mary-Ann
    

    Is there a special way to defeat the guardian who is a blue knight
    on a horse.  I manage to knock him off the horse, but then he just
    slaughters me while I usually only hit him twice.
    

    OK all you expert LINKSTERS, I am a NOVICE.  I do not have my own
    Nintendo, so only get to play on the weekends if I go to my sister's
    and there isn't a horror movie on she wants to see.  I had a lot
    of success with Zelda, unfortunately, I'm having many problems with
    LINK.                                                         
    
    Everything that follows is hidden with a spoiler in case I reveal
    something (I doubt it!).....
    
    
    First of all, I have completed the first castle (YEA!!!   :-)
    However, I only have JUMP and SHEILD magic and I have the CANDLE
    and GLOVE.  I am trying to get through DEATH MOUNTAIN for the HAMMER,
    but I can't seem to make it.  What I'm wondering is:  Is there more
    magic I can get (I'm at ATTACK 4, MAGIC 5 and LIFE 5) that will
    help, and where is it.  Also, are there any practical uses for sheild
    magic?  I haven't found any place that it is helpful.  Please don't
    tell me to read this note, because not only have I read it, but
    I extracted it, created a summary for each specific thing and printed
    that.  I also print any new additions.  I realize that most everyone
    is done with this, but at the rate I'm going ZELDA 4 will be out
    before I conquer this baby!
    
    Any help/spoilers/specific directions ;-) would be greatly appreciated.
    
    -thanks in advance
    
    Laurel
    

    Can anyone help me find Fairy Magic. I've looked all over & I need
    it to get to level 3.
    
    
                      Thank's in advance
                             Lisa
    

        Shadow Link  bit  the  dust  last  night  - good game with nice
        humour in the closing 'cartoon'.
        
        It's definitely possible to complete the Grand Palace with only
        3 lives, but there are some tricks to this.
        
        ***SPOILER FOLLOWS***
        

        
        Last warning!
        

        
        The blue warriors are  the  toughest,  but just before you meet
        the first one, there's a  screen  with flying wolves heads - if
        you position yourself right, hold down  (to crouch) and jump at
        the right moment, you'll rack up better  than 1000 points every
        5 minutes, but more importantly, you'll get a blue magic bottle
        every 6th head you kill, so you can recharge  to  full strength
        very quickly.  Kill the blue knight, go back and  top up again.
        Continue  on  down to the next blue knight - take him  out,  go
        back and recharge. You can then go all the way down to the doll
        and fairy, recharging just  beyond  there  in  the  low  roofed
        tunnel with the blocks on  the floor, by the same method, after
        you kill the red flame thrower.
        
        Doing  it  this way, I got to the big red creature in the  anti
        room,  used the magic!  and killed him with only one hit on me,
        which  let   me  into  the  final  room,  where  I  got  zapped
        immediately, so that was the first Link gone.  Back in, there's
        a method which makes  it easy to kill the shadow Link - he went
        with only two hits on me. 
        
        If anyone want hints for the final palace, send mail.
        
        Andy
        
        Ps - Thanks to Suzette for her map - it saved a lot of time!
        

    
    
      Being new to Link and just recently starting the game, I need
    help with something. Could someone give me a hint on how Link
    learns the downward thrust with his sword? I have searched for
    some kind of teacher but to no avail. I looked in this note and
    didn'd find anywhere else this is mentioned.
                                                  mike
    

        Mike, 
        
        I didn't  keep  notes  while  I  was  moosing through the early
        stages (wish I had now I'm doing the game again), but I seem to
        remember that you get  the  downwards  thrust  as  a reward for
        bringing something to someone in one of the villages.
        
        Andy
        
        PS back a couple of  notes  - the same answer _I THINK_ applies
        to getting fairy magic.
        

    Fraser,
    
    Is there a way to get to the final castle without loosing multiple
    links? I gathered 10 Links and started from the graveyard, I lost 
    5 links on the way and the other five in the castle. Hey, I'm not 
    the greatest player in the world but this seems lika a lotta Links
    to loose that quick. Any pointers? 
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)

        I've only  ever  gone  from  the graveyard with three Links - I
        never could be bothered (at 9000 points each) to build up extra
        lives, so I just  died a lot, but learned to take it slowly and
        carefully, and especially how to  fight the blue and red 'eyes'
        without using magic as much as  possible.    Once you reach the
        last palace, check out the note I  put  in  a  few back (.400?)
        about  recharging your life and magic.  The  blue  knights  are
        vulnerable  when  they  jump,  so that's the best time  to  hit
        them...
        
        Good luck,
        
        Andy
        

    
    
    RE. 403
    
       Thanks Andy, I'll go back and pester the villagers some more!
    
                                                             mike
    

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HBO::BROUILLET "BROUILLET"                           19 lines  29-MAY-1989 14:42
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Hi, I need help with the 6th palace,  I build up anywhere from 6-10 lives 
then proceed to go to the palace by the time I get to the extra link doll 
in that palace, I'm down 2 or 3 lives.  Now I'v met the dragon several 
times used my SHIELD, REFLECT, JUMP magic but HOW DO I KILL HIM, do I use
FIREPOWER - although that didn't seem to affect him, I even tried SPELL 
once, nothing, I usually get so frustrated just building up lives and 
ending at the dragon so fast that I stop for awhile.  I usually spend
up to 60-90 minutes building lives.  But lose them quickly in the palace.

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP ME IN THIS PALACE... it's 
FRUSTRATING....

You can reach me by sending me mail at HBO::BROUILLET and any help would be 
greatly appreciated... this has been my worst setback in this game, I LOVE 
IT...

Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.

Linda

                            < Re .406>
    
    Linda,
    
    Thes best way for me to to in the dragon was to use jump and shield
    magic.  Then stand on the far right platform, wait for the dragon
    to come up.  When he (she)((it)) blows fire jump to avoid the fire
    and then move to the left lump and use a down thrust on to the head.
     You should bounce right off the head and then land on the platform
    to the left of where yo started.  Just repeat the process, it may
    take a while but you do finally win.
    
    Good Luck!!
    
    Rob
    

    Yes, use jump and shield, and also reflect.  Stand on the middle
    post, jump when the dragon opens its mouth to breathe, and hit its
    head at the top of the jump and/or as it is going back down into
    the water.  One life should do it easily with the proper technique.
    PATIENCE is the key.
    
    ..........steve
    

can someone help me please???????????????????


     I am either very blind, very dumb, or very far away from what I 
search................... I know I must find a ______

swordsman to help me learn how to stab up and down, but I can not.
Someone want to help me out? Maybe a little hint or a location?

Something please..................................

       **********THANKS********

curt

    Will someone please tell me where I can find the cross. I've looked
    here and there but nothing. Send mail to  RAVEN1::TYLER.
    
    Ben

    
    
       Could someone give a hint as to where the key can be found?
    I've been searching 400+ replies and could use some help.
                                                            Thanks
                                                                mike
    

    re: .409, .410, .411  SPOILERS!
    
    Swordsmen are always found in towns - you usually have to satisfy
    some quest first to gain access to them.
    
    The cross is in Palace 6 - look in every room.
    (Hint: it's in the right half of the palace)
    
    The key is hard to find if you don't know how.
    It is in New Kasuto, at the far edge of town.
    You need magic to find it.
    
    ..........steve
    

    RE 412
    
    	OK, I will bite..........
    
    What kind of requirements do I need to fill to gain access to the
    swordsmen??????
    
    I have succeeded in going through the first castle and I am at the
    very end of the second castle..(as a matter of fact I thought I
    had it last nite, till the bugger got me!)
    
    	I could use a slight hint on this... Should I by this point
    (two castles and visiting three towns) be able to succeed in meeting
    the swordsman?
    
    **************************
    Question two: will it be obvious to me (Eventually) what function
    the 
    
    Man "I am error" plays in the main scheme of things?
    
    
    Thanks for the first response     AND thanks for anymore help in
    the future..
    
    curt
    

        <<< Note 41.414 by CSC32::MOLLER "Nightmare on Sesame Street" >>>
                              -< in answer to -1 >-

    
   <What kind of requirements do I need to fill to gain access to the
    swordsmen??????>
    
   <Question two: will it be obvious to me (Eventually) what function
    the 
    
    Man "I am error" plays in the main scheme of things?>
			************
    To answer the preceeding questions:
    
    This is all from memory, it's been awhile since I completed this game,
    but to the best of my memory, in order to gain the goodies from each
    town, you will need to "help" one of the villagers, i.e. find her
    mirror, or find the 'water of life' for the sick girl, return the
    trophy that was stolen etc....

	
    Eventually, in one of the towns that you explore, you will find a
    reason for the man named Error -

    Good luck,

		*D*
        

    Alot of these questions have been answered previously in this topic.
    Take a look the directory and you'll probably find what you need
    is already here.

    
    I realise some of the past questions (And very possibly this one
    too) have been answered...... But going thru 416 replies and then
    realising you have another question get frustrating...... So in
    advance I am apologising to any and everyone.
    
    BUT.....       *(spoiler question follows)
    
    How the heck does one get past the blue guardian? I have tried all
    possibilities. I have stabbed. I have jumped. I have sweated, sworn,
    practically cried and he still clubbers me.
    No I take that back. He has successfully plundered me everytime.
    Idid manage to hit him once, and cut the head off, but that was
    not too smart an idea.... (Then I had two attacking me).
    
    What do I do....................?
    
    
    
    
    PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    
    curt
    

    RE:  .417
                                                                       
    Since I don't know if it's a spoiler, help [I think :-)] follows:
    
    
    It's been a while since I defeated ole blue eyes, but if I remember
    correctly, he's the one riding the horse?  If so, I just used jump
    magic and downward thrust.  I stood in the middle, he charged, I
    jumped and landed on his head - bingo, one hit..... until he falls
    off the horse and then I just used turbo jump and "sworded" the
    ^&*(#$&*(@ out of him till he was dead - it was great!
    
    If this isn't the right guy, write me and I'll try to help.  I'm
    at the grand palace, read next reply to see how I'm doing.....
    
    good luck
    Laurel
    

    Now for my question.
    
    I need help in the worst way, either reply here or send me mail,
    but somebody please help me....
    
    
    
    
    I have plundered and plodded my way to the grand palace, I have
    searched every room, I have defeated the red rogue, BUT even with
    7 lives, I have been unable to inflict but one hit on SHADOW LINK.
    
    HELP, what am I doing wrong, what should I be doing right?  I am
    becoming increasingly frustrated and wished I knew how to destroy
    that little bugger.....   Please send me help for this weekend.
    
    thanks,
    Laurel
    

    RE .418 Laurel
    
    	Thank you...... We were talking about the same creature.
    I have accomplished my feat. (I have send him into oblivion)
    thanx
    curt
    
    ps. I agree with you; It was fun to kill the little bugger.
    

    RE:  .420
    
    Yea, but not as good as killing that ^&#$@($^(@^ "dark" villian!
    
    Thanks to all who sent me pointers and hints and a special thanks
    to Ron for his help on Thursday.  I finally won and the second pass
    through the game is "different".  Not different like Zelda I, but
    because you have to rely on what you find and not on building points,
    it makes going through the later palaces a bit more challenging.
    
    Have fun, now it's on to CASTLEVANIA I - gotta find that note......
    
    
    -lb
    

    NOT SO FAST!!!! 
    
    How about a pointer on killing the flying, red, indian warrior from
    hell. I make it through the Grand Palace with no trouble and upon 
    entrance to this fight, I die in no time. I have been able to hit
    it twice with each Link and then I die. Please help.....
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link) 

    Use shield, jump & reflect, and be prepared to use life.
    Stand in the middle and keep jumping up to hit it in its head.
    
    ..........steve
    

    
    I know this has been mentioned many times in the past 423 replies,

    but>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.................................................................
    
    
    Where the heck does one find the 
    CROSS !?
    
    anyone want to give me a
    hint????????????????????????????????????????????
    curt
    

    Since I am so pleased that I was able to finish this WONDERFUL ;-)
    game, allow me to assist you in you plights....
    
    
    
    RE:  423
      
    What you need to do is 1) as soon as you see that floating RED guy,
    use SPELL magic [it might be THUNDER, but I think it's SPELL], anyway,
    you'll know you've gotten the right one, because he'll turn a wonderful
    shade of blue.  Then I just used REFLECT, JUMP & SHEILD -- Just
    stand in the center, and keep jumping and striking, I only lost
    2 "squares" of life before I killed this guy.  ONE NICE POINT: 
    Once you have destroyed this guy, you never have to nail him again.
    Even when you SAVE and come back, he's gone.  Good luck with the
    "SHADOW"
    
    RE:  424
    
    The cross is in the palace out in the desert.  If you haven't found
    that castle, then that is why you haven't found the cross.  I believe
    it is in the lower right corner of that castle labrynth, however
    I wouldn't swear to it.  If you need a pointer to that castle, just
    ask.
    
    
    BTW:  It would have been nice if someone had helped me like this,
          I'd probably still have LONG fingernails and my kids wouldn't
          have added a few extra phrases to their vocabularies!
    
    
    Happy Hunting.....
    

>        < Note 41.425 by NETMAN::BLANEY "VOID that entry..." >
        
        .....
        
>    BTW:  It would have been nice if someone had helped me like this,        
                .....
        
        Ahem, I  seem  to  remember  sending you mail a couple of weeks
        ago, which gave you the definitive answer to the endgame....
        
        Never even got a reply either.
        
        

    Mr. Fraser,
    
    I too received mail from you in regards to end game.  May I take
    this time to thank you publically for this information though I
    have note completed this quest.  Maybe someday-----
    
    Thanks again
    Mary-Ann
    

        No problem, Mary-Ann - you're very welcome!
        
        Andy
        

    REGARDING "AHEM"
    
    First of all let me clarify, that unless it didn't make it through
    the network, there should be a general thank you to ALL the people
    who sent me mail and phone calls on how to defeat the DARK ONE.
    
    HOWEVER:  I was referring to the note which I had posted the week
    previous to that one begging for help on how to get through DEATH
    MOUNTAIN.  I didn't receive ONE reply.  Maybe too many people thought
    it was mundane, however, I later received mail from someone else
    who was experiencing as many problems as I had been, and I was able
    to help them, only because I had beat myself blue the weekend after
    my note, trying to get through it.
    
    I did not mean to FLAME anybody, and I am basically a very polite
    person.  I did receive at least 5 replies to my mail account which
    were all basically the same.  I felt that a general thank you to
    all who sent me assistance in this file would suffice, if I exercised
    improper NOTING/ASSISTANCE etiquette, then I apologize immensely
    and would like to again extend my thanks to everyone who was kind
    enough to send mail on how to defeat "HIM".
          
    Well, I hope that clears up some of the problems that I may have
    caused.  basically all I was trying to say was that every person
    who enters a problem in this file (under any topic heading) which
    is asking for help, is waiting with baited breath (and fingernails)
    for an answer -- the waiting is worse than the playing.....
    
    Hope this makes things better, and I do apologize if I offended
    anyone with a lack of response.
    
    -Laurel
    

    I only have 7 container hearts. Can someone tell me where the 8th
    one is?? Or have a list of there locations???
    
    And where is Thunder Magic??
    
    Ben

    Heart Containers:
    
    1) South of the first castle.
    2) In blocked cave to the far east of second castle
    3) On a secret Island north of fifth castle
    4) In the desert east of sixth castle
    
    Thunder Magic:
    
    Wizard in dead town after you have all the magic containers.
    
    Magic containers:
    
    1) Cave south of start castle
    2) Blocked pit south of death mountains
    3) Maze island
    4) Lost town
    
    Finally:
    
    Good luck!
    						John.

    Thanks John!!!!
    
    
    Ben

    
    Is this a problem with my game PAK or is this how LINK is...?
    
    When I die in a cathedral/palace and I continue, I start from the
    very beginning.  The book states that you should start at the beginning
    of that palace.  Which is it?????  
    
    Thanks.....
    
    Ron.

    
       The feature to restart in a palace only applies to the Grand
    Palace (the final one).  Your game is behaving ok Ron.
    
    -rick

    
    Thanks for the info.  I think that is a bummer.  It's a pain to trudge
    all the way to a cathedral, die and have to make the same trek all
    over again.
    
    But over all I'm very satisfied with this game.
    
    Ron.

    Based on what I've seen, the only way you restart at the Grand
    Palace is if you continue continue the game after the last Link
    rather than save it.  This has been real frustrating because I usually
    end up taking about 1/2 hour to get to the Grand Palace IF I don't
    use up all 3 lives on the way.

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    If you are having problems getting to the grand palace in good health 
    maybe I can be of assistance.
    
    *SPOILERS*
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    (1) Obviously the problems begin at the entrance to the Southern corridor
    (the spider). The mole like creatures begin hurling stones at you as you 
    pass. To get by them you must run and duck, run and duck, when you get to 
    the lizard man, hit him and most probably you will get struck by a stone.
    While you are still shimmering (as you do when struck) hit him again and 
    he will die.
    
    (2) At the next hide behind the fence scene, load fire power before you
    do anything and shoot it as you run and duck. You will hit the fire
    spitting lizard before he can get you (must hit him twice). The next
    scene is like the first. 
    
    (3) Next at the graveyard, position yourself directly in front of the forth 
    cross as you walk down the path. Walk onto the forth cross and then
    quickly run back to where you began. The goblins will get you on the
    road and you will only get the road scene. Then quickly run through the 
    graveyard to the last cross before you enter the brown area. At this
    cross wait for the goblins and when they are almost at your throat run
    onto the small road area between you and the brown area. If you time it 
    right you will get the open road scene again. Then you can proceed
    towards the castle. 
    
    (4) Now you have to get by four areas where you will be sent into
    eyeball hell, and two cave areas. At the eyeball hell areas you have to 
    work on hitting the blue sailing eyes before the red eyes of fire reach
    you (without spell magic), practice and you will get it (use jump). Next 
    the caves....At the first you must get by the eyes and this is easy. 
    Next you come to a fire flinging bug, kill him after turning him into a 
    blob by using magic. Next the hatchet throwing madman....run towards him,
    jump over the hatchet, and strike him. Do this three times. The last
    cave is like the first except that you don't have to fight a fire
    slinging bug. Kill the hatchet thrower and then the next victim is 
    a piece of cake.     
    
    I use this method and get to the Grand Castle without losing one 
    link. If I lose one, I just kill off the other two and start a new game 
    at the castle with three healthy links by pushing continue. 
    
    *MAJOR SOILER* (maybe cheating)!!!!
    
    When you find a red jar and you are out of both life and magic, set your 
    magic on life before you hit the jar. When you hit the jar quickly hit 
    the magic button and you can fill both levels up! 
    
    Practice all of the above and you will get them down. GOOD LUCK!!!
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link)   
    

    
      Even better method for getting through the caves on the blood
    path to the Grand Palace.
    
    
    
        Simply turn into fairy and fly through the caves. You may
      lose a life or two, but you get to the palace a *lot* faster
      and you don't risk falling off ledges when you battle the
      cave denizens.
    
    -rick

    OBSERVATION.....
    
    If the object is to get from one place to the other with as little 
    interaction with the denisons of Hyrule as possible, then fairy magic is 
    a great way to avoid them.
    
    If the object is to conquer the evil of Hyrule then I suppose learning
    how to fight and win is another method. 
    
                             

    FINALLY!!!!!!!
    
    I Have Killed Shadow link and saved Hyrule!!!!!!!!
    
    I may be slow (two months) but I sure had fun. It seems though that
    shadow link was VERY easy to kill. He only hit me one time and then 
    I squashed him like a grape between my fingers (OOOHHH WHAT FUN!).
    
    Whats Next???? LINK III???  When???? Does anyone have any suggestions
    for a good game that will take some time to play.  
    
    L.L.L. (Little Lost Link) who is now found!!!     
    

    I was wondering if one of you experienced "Shadow Link" killers
    could assist a frustrated Linkster. In between my travels to the
    east cost over the last few months, I have tried unsuccessfully
    to take care of the Shadow Link. I am not necessarily sure what
    I am doing wrong, but one problem is getting past the flying blue
    guys and then I am lost. Any assistance would be helpful. I would
    like to get onto some of my other challenges (SMB II, Blaster Master).
    
    Thanks in advance for the assistance.
    
    Wayne

    Sheehan,
    
    *SPOILER*
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    To kill blue knights, wait until they jump over you and use upward
    thrust into their blue butts. When you get to the large, red, eagle
    of death let us know if you need any help....

    L.L.L, can you hide your spoilers a little better?

    OOOPS!!!
    
    I AR Wil do Betr nex tim.
    
    L.L.L.

	Has everybody heard?????  There is gonna be a Link III - but
	there's one catch to getting this game -  Nintendo is coming out
	with a 16 - bit machine and guess what?  Yep, Link III and SMB 3 or 4
	will run on the new machine - 
	
	It's gonna premiere in Japan in 7/89 and is expected to be here in
	early 1990.

	Just thought I'd pass this info along to others who LOVED playing
	and rescueing ZELDA.

		*D*

Thank you, thank you, thank you all for helping me thru LINK.  Though I've
only posted one or two requests for help, a lot of answers to other peoples 
questions helped me thru the game.  Thanks a bunch for keeping me sane!

Now for some observances that made the trek easier for me (spoiler time)

Do the guys at the stockades bother you?  There's a way to make them take 
a permanent vacation if you have the patience (The real spoiler follows) 

Once you've crossed the ocean, go to the little town nearby and load up your 
hearts and magic.  Go south and blow the whistle for the spider and proceed
to the first stockade.  Move along until you can see the bad guy on the ground
and the three bad guys along the wall.  Use thunder for fried Lizard!  The
first stockade is now cleared.

Go back to the plains near the town and refill life and magic by killing the
bad guys.  The ones you kill via fire leave a red magic jar about every seven
or eight times in.  If you're completely out of magic to even use fire, go to
the desert just east of the plains and run for the minor shadow creatures.  In
that scene you almost always get one blue magic jar and sometimes two if you 
kill all the critters.  After refilling, go to the second stockade and repeat  
the process, then repeat for the third, and finally the fourth stockade past
the graveyard.  After completion you can pass thru the stockades without
being bothered.  

The advantage to this is you can make it to the path for the Grand Palace 
unscathed and full of magic.  While doing this you also will usually build a 
life which I found very useful against the Red Angel of Death.

Caution! Caution!  If you decide to clear the stockades in this manner do not
go into a town once you've cleared one or more stockades.  The bad guys will
all reappear and you'll have to do all the work over again.

For the last stages of the game (spoiler?) 

I met up with the Red Angel of Death on three occasions.  The first time
I had three lifes and defeated it without losing a life.  On I went to
shadow Link and got thrashed.  No problem says I, I'll just turn off the power
and start the trek later.

Second time, made it to the Red Angel with 11 lifes.  You guessed it.  Couldn't
get past the ugly creature.  Wasted all my lifes.

Third time, made it to Red Angel with 9 lifes.  After 8 lifes and only two hits 
left, this dude finally bit the dust a second time.  I found him to be the most
difficult critter to deal with in the game.  I then was quickly dusted by 
Shadow Link, but this time I made sure to save the game, thus eliminating the 
Red Angel.  Moral of this story, save the game after dusting the Red Angel, 
even if it means losing your dolls.  Shadow Link is a breeze in comparision to
this guy in my book.

Hope this helps someone in their trek to save Hyrule.

tom


FWIW  I killed Shadow Link without losing a life on my next trek down to that
part of the world.

    Hi,
    
    Has anyone made a map of the overworld?   I would like to make my
    own map, but I'm not too sure how to figure out the coordinates
    for the areas I've already found. 
    
    If someone could give me the number of rows and columns needed for
    the map and also the row and column numbers for the starting point
    of the game, the North Castle, I think this would be enough to get
    me started.
    
    Thanks in advance for any help,
    Paula
    

Re: .447 by MAGIC::POLLOCK

I have made a hand drawn map of the overworld.  West Hyrule and East Hyrule
are each exactly 64 squares wide by 75 squares high.  I made my maps 77
squares high to include a row of water at the top and the bottom.

I have a hand drawn map of Maze Island, and a partial map of Death
Mountain.

The maps are colored in with color pencils.

Now, the really good news.  I also have postscript maps for West Hyrule and
East Hyrule.  I have not announced them before this because I still work on
them in my spare time.  I am in the process of trying to draw miniature
icons to place in the grid squares to indicate where various goodies are,
such as Link Dolls, Red Potion Bottles, etc.  It is a tedious job, and if
someone would like to volunteer to do some artwork, I would include the
drawings in my map.  When I get into work in the morning, I will put
together just enough so you can print your own map.  The stuff is in
several separate files right now, and it is inconvenient to look at the
files right now at home at 2400 baud.

	Stapes

    
    
    Ok, Who knows the answer to this?
    
    I am in the grand palace, but have a couple questions regarding
    the earlier part of the game.
    
   1) What is the purpose of the kings tomb? It does not make sense that
      there is nothing there! Has anyone found a reason?
      
    2) At the very beginning of the game (Oh let me draw a quick map
    to explain) **It follows**
    
    
    
    
   ______________________________________________________________________
 |                              
 |   town        
 |            ---
 |           |   |
 |           |    ----------
 |           |
 |         ----            start of game
 |________| 
   cave    
        
 _________   
        x  
       |
       |
       |
       |
       ______xxxx________
            rock closing cave
         ____                
         |***|
         ----
             
    
    
    if one goes into the location marked by *** there are three columns.
    Is there a purpose for the room? I have not found any reason for
    it. 
        
    
    	Does anyone know?
    
    curt
    

    RE: 41.449
    
    It seems that the only purpose of the Kings Tomb is to give create a 
    mystery. It has no other purpose......
    
    The area you describe was home of a LINK DOLL at one time. You must
    have picked it up and used save after you lost all lives, causing 
    the doll to be stored in memory and never to be seen again.
    
    Have Fun
    
    L.L.L.

    HELP!!!
    
    I need to find the seventh life bottle so I can get the magic in both 
    Hidden and Dead Town. Can someone please point me in it's direction?
    
    "I knew I should have written it down from my first game"!!
    
    Thanks
    
    L.L.L.

        Re King's Tomb,
        
        ***MILD SPOILER***
        

        
        Remember the clue '....South of King's Tomb'?
        
        That's it's  only  function,  as  a marker to help you find the
        hidden entrance to  the  palace  directly  south  of  it in the
        Graveyard.
        
        Andy        

    re .450
    	Thanks! It was so long ago that I started the game. I still
    do not remember getting a "doll" in there. Well, I guess it's Lost
    forever now.
    
    re.452
    	Just a marker? And I went in there so many times Hoping something
    spectacular would happen. (Like a vial that would give me an extra
    forty lives!!Ha) Oh well,guess there be no reason to search there
    again huh?
    	curt

    Hi folks,

        Just started Link about a week ago and I agree with all the 
    positive comments in this note - it's a super game !

        I have a question concerning the hearts that can be found.  
    Specifically, how do you know how many you have found ?  I ask 
    because I found one, Link raised it over his head and then a split 
    second later, a weapon that had been air-born killed him dead (3rd 
    life, Return of Gannon, etc and yuck!).  After continuing, when I 
    return there the heart is gone, but I don't see any indication that 
    it 'took' when I found it.  So fellow Linkers, in short, how do I 
    tell if I got the heart or not ?

        Thanks, Art

    The easiest way of telling is to count the number of segments on
    the top of the screen that relate to life.  At the start of the
    game you have 4 segments.  For each heart you find you get another
    segment.  If you have 5 segments, you have captured and recorded
    the heart.  You get get a maximum og 8 segments for both life and
    magic.  If you did not save the game after you got the heart, it
    should be back where you found it.  Hope this helps.
    
    Steve-who-hopes-to-conquer-GP-soon
    

    Thanks Steve!   

        Your info sure will help - I hadn't thought to look at something 
    as subtle as the number of life blocks.  I'll check when I get home.  
    It would be really helpful to have 5. (Imagine 8...)

        Best 'o luck on GP!    Art

    

    Can someone please tell me where to find the seventmagic container>>.
    I need it to find the magic in dead and hidden town. This is for my
    daughter, I should have written it down when I playedlast month. 
    
    Thank You
    
    L.L.L.

    
    Magic container spoiler 
    
    
    	1 in cave in desert north of start palace
    	1 at the end of going thru death mountain maze (after breaking 
    		rock).
    	1 in maze by fourth castle.
    	1 in lost town given to you by a grateful citizen.
    
    I'd bet you're missing the one in the maze by castle four.  It's off
    the beaten path....
    
    Good luck to your daughter.
    
    tom
    

    Has any one seen where your attack level reaches 0. My son found
    it somewhere but i dont know where. It makes it so all the guys
    in the great palace take one shot.Has any one else seen this?  
                                          

    
    RE:458
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I have been to all the locations indicated in your note and have been
    unable to find the seventh majic container. I do not remember any
    towns person giving me a container in hidden town, can you elaborate?
    
    L.L.L.

    OK!!!! I guess I have to beg......
    
    Can someone please help me to find the seventh magic container so my
    daughter can proceed with this game. We have the containers found in
    *SPOILER*
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Tantari desert, Death Mountain, Maze Island. I understand there may be
    one in Hidden Town, how do you get it? I have been in the town many 
    times and only get two messages (1) Do you have the seven magic
    containers? and (2) Come back when you are ready. Please help.....
    
    L.L.L.

    I don't understand.  You start with four majic containers and say
    you have found three more.  That's seven.  If you don't have seven
    you must have missed one of the ones you thought you had.  Perhaps
    you didn't SAVE the game after picking up one of the containers.
    
    I suggest that you go back to each of the areas you mentioned and
    see if the container is still there.
    
    Good Luck.
    

    reply .461
    
    Magic potion spoiler 
    
    Are you mixing the towns up?  Are you talking about the town that
    is dead near the sixth castle, or the one that is hidden under some
    trees?  The container you're looking for is in the town that's hidden
    under some trees which I call Lost Town.  I believe the container
    is in the first screen when you enter the town.  An old lady in
    blue steps out of one of the first houses.  Stop her.  She'll quench
    your thirst.
    
    tom

     *Possible Spoiler*
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Are there more than two places that you "fall down" in the maze? I have 
    been back to all the sites mentioned and still have only six segments. I 
    have found two "holes" in the maze but I forget what I found. 
    
    GEEZ!! 

    To all those who think they know where the magic containers are
    hidden.....*REAL SPOILER*                                 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    After reading the hints, clues and false leads I decided to run through
    the game from the start. Low and behold in one of the first towns I
    was given the clue "There is magic south of the castle" and what to my
    suprise do I find? A cave directly under the castle that holds our
    beloved princess. So the magic containers ARE found (1) in that cave,
    (2) on the far side of death mountain and (3) on maze island. 

        Shadow Link finally bit the dust last night (after about 4 months
    of trying). Is there any benefit of playing the second round other
    than being more powerful with the first few castles than in the
    first round? I greatly appreciate everyone's assistance in getting
    me through this ordeal. I will be spending a few days in the Grand
    Canyon and then I will decide what game is next (SMBII, Blaster
    Master, ?????).
    
    Thanks again,
    Wayne
    

    I finally need help. I have managed to close 5 castles and have
    all the magic and items there are. I am in the 6th castle and have
    grabbed the cross. My problem is that I can't find the location
    of the baddie to close the castle. I need a major hint as I hve
    tried everything. Please help me retain my waning sanity.
    
    Joel

The dragon is who you're looking for in Castle six and he's at (spoiler) 

Remember as you're walking to the right there's a small pit with two blocks
across it?  The blocks are a little lower than the floor level.  I believe
this is on the way to the cross.  If not, you do at least get something good
if you keep going to the right.

Anyway, if you land on those two bricks, wait for them to dissolve.  While 
dropping, you go thru one room, then you continue dropping to the next and 
bottom room.  If you pause the game quickly during the drop in the first room 
you'll notice a small corridor to your right.  Change yourself to a fairy and 
fly into it.  

After beating a few more bad guys, you will find the Dragon of Doom!

Good Luck!

Tom

re .390

I tried this method and it seem that when you try to rush in while he is resting
he starts swinging as soon as your in range, and it only takes about 3 or 4
swings and your dead. I can't for the life of me (or link) figure out how to 
do this guy in. Is there some special magic I should be using??

Please HHHHHEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP.



thanks 

/cowboy\

    If you want to stop him,you rush in and jab him with your sword
    once he stops swinging his morning star.
    
    Signed, Peter Dudley Baylies

    
    last night I diligently worked my way through the lands to The castle
    with the "Red Floating" creature. Spoiler follows....(I Think)
    
    
    
    
    	I tried a number of things, but still got crusified in about
    3.5 seconds. What kills this bugger.?????
    
    	I attempted to do away with him by means mentioned previously,
    but that was not accomplished either. Can someone explain the "Reflect"
    a little more. Maybe I am not using it right.......
    
    Please help me..............
    
    

    Thanks to the help of this note, I can finally reach the red floater
    mentioned in .471 with ease. I am at an impasse. I need the same
    information as .471

    
    

    How do I kill the red floating bad guy? I have tried every magic
    with no help. Only thunder seems to have an effect changing him
    to blue but I have not been able to inflict any hits on him.
    
    Might as well give me the hints on how to battle shadow link being
    as how he is in the next room (I think). Don't spare the guessing,
    I have been working at this game for a long time and just want to
    finish it quickly.
    
    Thanks

    Does anyone have a map of the last palace where Ganon is?
    Can someone provide some help on where to find Ganon?
    
    I have everything else needed, and I even built up to 10 lives,
    but I can't find Ganon.  I have no idea where to look now.
    
    I don't want any hint, I want *MAJOR SPOILERS* ;-).
    
    Jim

    Then search this note.  There are several fairly explicit and more or
    less accurate maps within this note.
    
    Do a DIR 41.*, and I'm sure you'll find it fairly quickly.  Or even
    dir/title="map" 41.*.
    
    - Chris

    
    re: .472
    
    
    
    spoiler follows
            
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I watched my son make quick work of it by using thunder magic to
    turn him blue and then by hitting him in the head.  When its blue
    its vunerable I think. 
    
    bc
    

I basically have the same question as .365, regarding the 7 magic 
containers.  Where are they?  I didn't see an answer to .365, but 
if it's there please point me to it.  If not, any help is 
appreciated.  

I have finished 5 palaces and found the town hidded in the woods. 
When in town I meet an old man who asks if I have the 7 magic 
containers.  Since he asks, I assume that I do not.  I probably have 
6, but I am really not sure.  I didn't know it was going to be 
important.  Oops. 

I know that there is one in each of the major areas.  I have the 
containers from the first 2, the mountain, and maze island.  I am 
not sure about the rest.  Can someone tell me where the other 3 are?  

Link Tiberius

    I'm still having major problems with the red floating guy. I use
    THUNDER to turn him blue, but I can't seem to hit him without
    getting hit back. 
    
      *** POSSIBLE SPOILER**
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
                                                                   
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I normally enter the room and use SHIELD and JUMP.
    When he appears, I use THUNDER. I then try to stay on the platform,
    dodge his fireballs and jump and stab at it's head. If this is the
    best aproach, than I need to work on my timing. Any suggestions?
    
    
                                                      Thanks, Eric.
    

    re: the red guy
    
    I found REFLECT to be of better advantage.
    
    I also found that I liked to move to one side of the screen, wait till
    he came down after me, jump, stab (DON'T miss), then jump through the
    rain of bombs to the other side, and repeat the process as needed.
    
    The trick is that when you jump through the bombs, you lead with your
    shield.  Thus REFLECT keeps the bombs from hurting you at all (except
    that occasionally you get one on the head or back if you mistime your
    jump.)  Using SHIELD, the spell, reduces but does not eliminate the
    damage you take, and I couldn't dodge well enough to survive.
    
    - Chris

    Thanks for the advice Chris, it worked like a charm. I was able
    to defeat him with my first Link. Now the SHADOW LINK was another
    story. Oh well, I like frustration.
    
                                                Thanks again, Eric.

    I have browsed throught all the replys in this note (41) and found
    no mention of the vibrating light curtain at the entrance to the
    final palace. I have managed to accumulate all the magic mentioned
    in these notes, and all items except the cross (which is inside
    this palace I presume) - but nothing seems to work on the curtain.
    I have tried all combinations of thunder, spell, reflect, etc. -
     all to no avail.
    I simply cannot get through this curtain.
    Any help at this point would be greatly appreciated.
    I have found other hints in this notes file greatly enhanced my
    enjoyment of playing this game.  Thanks to all who have contributed.
    
    	John - an avid Link player

    Re. .480
    You have to complete all temples before you are allowed inside and
    a certain item I believe..
    
    			Tony
    

        Re .480, John,
        
        Your presuming the location of the Cross is wrong - you need to
        find it before  you  try for the final palace, then the curtain
        won't be a problem.
        
        ***SPOILER***
        

        
        If you've gone through the game in what seems to be the typical
        order of palaces and towns  -  you  must  have seen an apparent
        blank wall to the east of  one  town  -  did  you  hang  around
        whistling to see what might happen?
        

    Thanks for setting me straight.
    I could have sworn I finished off that last palace - just in too
    much of a hurry to get to the big one I guess.
    I got the cross and now had first look at the dragon.
    As I have been browsing this note file I have been confusing this
    Palace (6) with the Grand Palace, I now realize.
    Thanks again.
    John

    
    
    My son and I been trying to finish this game for weeks now and can't
    seem to finish off Shadow-Link.  We've been able to hit him a few
    times, but can't do him in.   I'm sure that we're missing a trick
    or two, could anyone help us out.  We'd like to wrap this up this
    weekend (after about four weeks of trying)......please send me mail.
    
    
    thanks,
    
    ed.
    

    
    Many thanks to all the folks who took the time to sned me their
    tips on conquering Shadow-Link........As much as I wanted to do
    it myself, I gave in and let my 5 yr. old give it a shot.   He had
    that look on his face like it was Christmas morning when he realized
    that he won........Like everyone else, I was suprised at how simple
    it was......
    
    Again, thanks for all the help.......Now he wants me to help him
    win Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles......
    
    Am I ready for that?
    
    thanks again,
    
    ed.

     According to Nintendo Power Magazine,their is a Red Magic bottel
    in the King's Tomb.I haven't found it yet so it's still a mystery
    to me where it is.I tried stabbing every where and found nothing.
    Maybe someone else will have better luck than me.
     The hint was in the one of the issues that reviewed the game.
    
     Paul
    

    Been a long time, but I remember that there's a red magic bottle 
    NEAR the King's Tomb.  Actually it's...

    <spoiler>

    

    ...3 crosses SOUTH and 3 crosses WEST of the King's Tomb.  

    So, stand just below King's Tomb, walk down to the third cross and 
    then left 3 crosses.  You should find it there.  (Terrible 
    neighborhood to be strolling around in, so if it's not there 
    exactly, I apologize in advance.  But I really think it is...)

    I also seem to remember that it was only there once; that is, it 
    didn't 'return' after saving the game.

    Good luck !    

    Hi Nintendo Feans including myself?
    
    I need some info it will greatfully be appr.
    I need to know, the following.
    
    REFLECT, does that have anything to do with the mirror i found???
    if not where can i find it? pls be specific if possible, you can
    send mail directly to me, thanx,Ronni
    
    whos been at this game for a looooooooong time

    spoiler follow:
   
    
    
    
    
    
    
    to the place where you found the mirror. Try talked withing with
    the locals in the area.
     

    I am now able to reach the SHADOW LINK without losing a life, but
    he still whips me every time. Does anyone out there know of a good
    strategy to use against him? He is so quick that I haven't been
    able to figure out his attack.
                                             Thanks for any help.
    

    re:480
    
    You must obtain the cross before entering the great palase.
    
                                   SPOILER 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
      The cross is in level 6.

    re:41.490
    
    spoiler follows!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    In order to beat Shadow Link, first use your shield magic. Then
    move as far to the left of the screen as you can. Crouch down and
    wait for him to come to you. When he gets close enough, attack him.
    Don't chase him around! I've found that he tends to make real short
    work of you if you take the fight to him!!!!

    I am trying to gain REFLECT POWER.  I found the lost child in the maze,
    and the old woman thanks me and lets me into her home, but when I try
    and speak to the wizzard, he simply reply's "COME BACK WHEN YOU ARE
    READY?"  What do I need to do to be ready.  I am at 8-life, 7-magic,
    and
    7-sword?
    
    thanks for any help?
    
    lisa

     
     Re; .493

     I think what you need is more magic containers.  Though there is also the 
     posibilty that you magic must be up to 8 (its been a while since I 
     finished this game).


    Spoiler on container:

























    As I recall, there is one in the vicinity where you recued the child.
    
                                        -Dave

    Having just been "enlightened" with the entertainment power of Nintendo
    I wonder if I could ask all you Link-Masters out there for some
    assistance?
    
    I'm working on Zelda II Link .... and specifically, I would like to know if you
    have to fight in every square to find things, like Link Life Dolls,
    Hearts etc OR do you merely have to traverse throught the squares.  I
    noticed that I picked ups some Life while traversing through the swamps
    in the South lands.  
    
    Where's that &^$&$&^ Hammer too?  And oh yes the Glove and Raft?  I've
    looked everywhere!
      
    Where's the Swordsman that teaches you the "downward thrust?"
    
    Also - the Deserts - - are the Deserts a place that you merely cross
    over to get somewhere else or is it worth standing and fighting with
    all those nasty flying thingys?
    
    The Mountains -- I'm completely dumbfounded on this one - how does one
    get over the Mountains?
    
    How much Attach force should you have before you go into the
    Southlands?  
    
    For a novice - I think (I really don't know), I'm doing fairly well -
    my Attack is at 6 - I got some extra life - and my life line is fairly
    stong at about 6 I think.  I've gone through Castle # One and cleaned it
    out including that nasty Horseman at the end too.  That was a thrill a
    minute. My next level is 2200.  I can see hours of fighting to gain
    that next level - any short cuts?
    
    Anyway - any spoilers or advise/clues would be certainly welcome.
    
    Oh yes - I've read all these notes too - but you guys/girls are/were
    miles ahead of where I'm at right now - I'm still trying to get to
    Castle Number Two and the conversation jumps from "Hi -I got the game
    .... to....  I just nailed the beast in Castle 4,5,6,...!!!"  Geesh - - 
    
    Let's talk novice talk - ok?
    
    Great Game!  
    
    
    Thanx ... Dan

    Dan, one problem you may have is that you are trying to get ahead of
    yourself.  The various items you mention are scattered througout the
    castles.  You do need to build up strength and power before moving on
    to the next castle (you are probably at a high enough level to attack
    the second castle).  You can find things (like items you need to learn
    the downward thrust, hearts, magic containers, Link dolls) without
    neccessarily fighting for them if you explore the caves and forests.

In the 5th palace there's a dead end with a key on the other side.  How do you
get on the other side?

Justin

    Not sure if it's the fifth palace - but - I remember that scene - and
    - as I recall - there is a place in the palace where --- spoiler
    follows
    
    
    ...where there is a false wall - you sort of jump and walk through it.
    
    Now - if you can tell me where the crystal is - that would be nice.  I
    can't find it.  I'm working on the palace in the dessert near those
    three rocks.  I think you may be on the fourth palace actually - but
    not sure.
    
    d.

    Spoiler for .497
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    From where you are looking at the key on the other side, you must
    go back to the left, down 1 level and back to the right. After defeatin
    what ever is there, you will find the wall on the right to have
    a false section that you can walk (or fly) through. After you negotiate
    the false wall, yu can go back up to the room with the key...and
    other goodies.
    
    

Where is the last heart container?

Where in the 6th palace is the cross?

-justin

btw - there's an easy way to kill the 1st guardian in the 6th palace

spoiler follows:

use spell magic and use your sword.  it will take away 2 hits at a time

    What's the deal on the 7th palace?  I mean it's bad enough that you
    have to conjour up about 4 or 5 lives just to get there - but then - I
    keep on getting nailed when I'm barely into the palace.  And sure - I
    can restart the game from just outside the palace walls - but three
    lives certainly don't seem to cut it.
    
    I've got all the magic, attack power and life that's available too.
    
    Am I going to have to fight my way up to 30 lives before I make the
    trek to the 7th palace?  What gives?  What an incredible time consumer
    this game is - not to mention the it's power to generate pure
    frustration and headaches!
    
    I'd appreciate any advice any of you Link-Masters are willing to share.
    
    Thanx - Dan
    
    

    re. .501
    
    Spoiler follows...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    What I've seen my son do is work on killing those little blue
    characters that are easy to kill.  After around 5 kills, a blue
    potion appears which he uses to replenish his magic, and he uses
    magic to replenish his life level.  He keeps doing it until he's
    got himself all re-charged.  When all charged up, he continues 
    further into the palace.  He then finds another easy prey in 
    another location to recharge himself, then moves on deeper again.
    
    Maybe there's a better answer, but that's what I know for now.
    

    I have done DIR/TITLE etc. and still have two questions which are
    causing me to go bald.
    
    1. I have the cross but cannot get rid of the crystal in palace
       six. Where does it go ??????
    
    2. How do I get to the grand palace once my first question is 
       answered ???????
    
    NO spoiler will hurt.
    
    Tnx.  Chuck
    

    RE:503 *SPOILER*
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    To Find the statue and get rid of the crystal. Go right at the entrance 
    and after some traveling you will find a pit with two blocks that
    disolve when you jump on them. Let yourself fall into the pit and as
    you go down look to the right for a small entrance that you cannot
    reach. As you approach it change yourself into a Fairie and fly into
    it. Within you will find the beast and the statue I believe.
    
    To find the final castle proceed to the graveyard from castle six and 
    go south. You will find it if you follow the trail of death!

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    RE: .501
    
    	With regards to the last and grandest of palaces, I too am 
    having a similar problem and have the same questions.
    
    	I have all of the items possible, but making my way to the
    grand palace loose all my lives. I get multiple lives, fight 
    my way to the palace, and then only have a few lives left when
    I get there. Then I die a quick death once there. I understand
    that you can continue once there and start from the beginning
    of that palace, however, that only leaves the three lives to
    make it through.
    
    	I am quite frustrated with the potential of having to fight
    for hours to get lives built up to allow myself to get to the
    final palace, only to loose them and not have enough left to
    proceed through the palace. 
    
    	Does anyone have any clues as to what is the best strategy
    to get to the palace with sufficient lives left to make it through?
    
    	Thanks for any assistance.
    	Sheri

    Sheri,
    
    I is possible to make it to the Grand Palace on one life and then do
    the entire palace without loosing all of your lifes. It takes practice
    and alot of it. Find your rythm and practice.
    
    *SPOILER TO FOLLOW*
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    To get to the palace work on killing all the floating thingies before
    you jump from island to island. Use upward thrust as they fly over you. 
    When you get to the palace and if you don't have three lives kill 
    yourself and restart with three. In the castle work to the right and
    forget about the left area. Go a level at a time and when you get to 
    where the wolf heads come bobbing at you jump so you land on top of 
    them to kill them. After you kill six you get e magic bottle. Use this
    method to refill your power and then go to the next level and then come
    back up and refill again. Take your time and practice!
    
    SLAM

     Once you get to the last castle, three lives are plenty to get to the
     final battle.  Its getting through that that is really tough.  My 
     advice is to 

     1) draw a map, 

     2) explore EVERYWHERE

   
     <Mild spoiler follows>



















     3) repeatedly kill the blue blobs, they give you blue magic potions.
        Also, smash blocks, it is tedious but ocasionally pays off.

     <Slightly more spoiled>
























     4) Stab the bird man statues, they will either come to life or give you
        a red potion.  

     <Medium Spoiler>

























     5) If the bird men come to life, just leave the screen. If you kill them
        its over, if you leave and come back you can stab the statue again!

     <A Real Spoiler>

























     6) Look for walls that you can walk through.


     This should be enough to get to the deepest, darkest, and most deadly
     dungeon room yet, once there. . .  Well, thats the challenge, is'nt it?

                                             - Dave

    I extracted and read this entire note over the weekend, and want to
    thank everyone for the tips/hints/spoilers. I had been stuck for a long
    time with only one palace conquered, but with the hints in this file,
    have since found the hammer, raft, glove, have destroyed two more
    palaces, and have managed to power up to Attack-6/Magic-7/Life-8.
    
    Now, I beg your indulgence on a few questions:
    
    1) Where can I find the Magic & Heart containers? (yes, I *know* it's
    been answered a few times, but I still can't seem to find them based on
    the hints given. Can someone please give me an *exact* location? I'm
    losing too much sleep (and Link lives) on this :^{ :^{ :^{ )
    
    2) In one of the houses in the river town, there is a blue blob
    sleeping on a table, snoring? ("zzzzz...") How can I wake him up?
    What will he tell or give me? Should I try to kill him? 
    
    3) In a house in one of the other towns, there is a bat(?) suspended
    from a ceiling. I try to 'talk' with him, but only get ".....". Again,
    how do I wake him up? What will he tell me? Do I need to kill him?
    
    Thanks in advance for your help...
    
    
    Freddie (who just wants to finish this game, then burn it!!!)
    

re: .508

spoilers follow:


>    1) Where can I find the Magic & Heart containers? (yes, I *know* it's
>    been answered a few times, but I still can't seem to find them based on
>    the hints given. Can someone please give me an *exact* location? I'm
>    losing too much sleep (and Link lives) on this :^{ :^{ :^{ )
    
    Heart containers are at:

     south parapha desert
     slightly north of the castle on the island
     east of 3 stones near the hidden town
     in cave protected by rock

    magic containers are at:

     in cave south of the north castle
     walk around the maze island untl you "drop"
     In the hidden town
     ?

    search around, what fun is it to have somebody else tell you exactly 
    where everything is?


>    2) In one of the houses in the river town, there is a blue blob
>    sleeping on a table, snoring? ("zzzzz...") How can I wake him up?
>    What will he tell or give me? Should I try to kill him? 
    
     be persistent

>    3) In a house in one of the other towns, there is a bat(?) suspended
>    from a ceiling. I try to 'talk' with him, but only get ".....". Again,
>    how do I wake him up? What will he tell me? Do I need to kill him?
    
     see above!
    
- George    

    Re: -.1
    
    Thanks George, you're right: it *is* more fun to figure it out.
    Before I had a chance to read your reply, I spent some time (2-3 hrs) 
    playing Link, just to hack around, and managed to find all the heart
    and magic containers. I've also managed to close all but Palace #6 and
    the Grand Palace. I also woke up the blob (Major bummer...all that time
    wasted , just to have him tell me something I already knew...) I'm
    still trying to find out what the bat's all about; I'll just keep at it
    I guess.
    
    Freddie

    I need help. I have everything I am supposed to have except upward
    thrust. I searched the town where they said the swordsman lived, I
    looked around the forests and dessert surrounding the town, what am I
    missing?
    
    				thanks

RE: .511

hints follow:

First you need to find the correct house, try 'knocking' on each door.
Once you have found what you believe to be the correct house, you will need
to use your imagination in order to find a way into it.

- George

    Once again a lesson from the Depths of Dumb! I spent about six hours
    last nite increasing my levels from 5-6-7 to 8-8-8, finishing Palace V,
    collecting all the 'goodies' in the area(s) between there and Palace
    VI, and started merrily into Palace 6. Got to a point where I dropped a
    level, and wanted to go back up. Aha! I said. Fairy magic and I'll zip
    to where I want to be!
    
    WRONG DRAGON BREATH!!!!
    
    If you are in a place with no enemies, and you use Fairy magic, and
    there is no exit ......................
    
    You guessed it - RESET - back to 5-6-7, all my goodies gone.... Do
    yourself a favor, and do a 'SAVE' periodically - or you could be like
    me, desperatley trying to slit my wrists with a Link cartridge!
    

    	I'm still having a very difficult time locating the BOOTS that
    are supposed to be somewhere in the palace where one has to go through
    a maze to get there. At  best I can find the guardian of this palace
    which is a red Ghost-like creature, but before I attempt to kill
    him off I need to find the BOOTS which other preceding notes have
    hinted at being in this palace. Am I missing something? Any hints
    or outright spoilers welcomed. So far I have for
    magic-sheild,fire,life,fairy, up and down thrust, reflector, jump
    and for tools, the hammer,glove,raft, and candle.
    
    Many thanks, Joe

    I need some advice...
    
    I'm preparing to go to the final palace. I've found all the needed
    treasures, and have closed all the other palaces. My concern is this:
    Based on some tips I've read in earlier notes, I'm spending time near
    the hidden town in the woods, building up many lives before attempting
    the final battle. Unfortunately, at about 15 minutes per life, and with
    infrequent playing time, I'm not building up lives very quickly. It has
    taken me over a month to build up to about 20 lives, and I had planned
    to build up to 37 before attempting the final palace (I want to see what 
    symbol appears beyond the letter 'z' :^) Up until now, whenever I have to 
    leave the game, often for days at a time, I simply head into the town, 
    reload magic & life at the old lady's house, put the game on pause, flip 
    my TV remote from Accessory to TV, shut off the TV, and leave the Nintendo 
    powered on. I've been continuing this way for a month now, but I'm afraid 
    my luck might run out and something bad might happen, like losing power, 
    having my wife shut it off accidentally, etc. My questions are these:
    
    	1) Will I lose my current game status if the power is interrupted?
    
    	2) Can I save the game and my current status? (I don't mind having
        to start my trek from the beginning screen, but I don't want to
    	lose the lives and loot I've accumulated.)
    
    	3) Allowing for time and lives to reach, explore and/or map the final
    	palace, how many lives should I build up? (Is 20 or so enough, or
    	should I keep adding more?)
    
    Please understand that my frustration level has already been maxxed
    out...I'm not enjoying this game any more and simply want to finish it, 
    sell it, and move on to something else. Bottom line is I'm looking for 
    the surest way to finish up from where I'm at already.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Freddie
    

    Question for .515...
    
    I didn't know you could accumulate lives except by using the link doll. 
    Is there another way I could add extra lives?  My son is at the second
    to the last room in the Grand Palace and keeps running out of lives
    battling the Death Angel, he only has 3 when he enters the palace.  Any
    help would be appreciated.  He is at the point, also, where he doesn't
    like the game anymore and just wants to finish it, he is getting really
    frustrated with it.
    
    Thanks,
    
    GP

    RE: .515
    
    Come to think of it - how _do_ you save the game when you aren't
    inclined to die?
    
    Getting more lives - when you get to level 8 in everything, you
    get more lives every 9,000 points.
    
    Joel
    

    re:  37 lives.
    
    I'd say this is overkill.
    
    Three lives will get you through the passage to the last castle, with a
    little practice.
    
    Then, when you are in the last palace and die, you can restart there
    with three more lives.  This is sufficient to win the game, again with
    a little practice.
    
    Killing 9,000 points worth of beasties is a mind-numbing affair.  Doing
    it over and over again so that you can attack and conquer the castle in
    one fell swoop can't be worth it.  (What if 37 lives isn't enough?  The
    sheer frustration would kill me.)
    
    If I had to do something like this to finish a game, I'd sell it
    without finishing it.  This is one of the reasons that I *hated* Dragon
    Warrior.  I had absolutely everyhting that it was possible to get, but
    simply didn't have enough experience and hit points to take on the
    Dragon Lord.  Getting the necessary experience was simply not fun, and
    I've resolved not to do that again.
    
    - Chris

re.517

The way to save without dying is simple.  All you have to do is on controller 1
press start then on controller 2 press up and a.

-justin

    Has anyone beaten this game without the benefit of one of those
    rapid-fire controllers?
    
    So far (I'm in the fifth palace, trying to beat the mace-swinging
    monster) I haven't had problems navigating or finding things.
    The problems I've had involve whacking the biggest monsters.
    
    Someone around here said that a rapid-fire controller would 
    be very helpful.  The question is: is such a controller necessary?
    
    Joel
    

I have been using the default Nintendo controller (beat up quite a bit) and
so far, I have returned the 6 crystals and have been exploring the grand
palace.  All I have to do is find what I need to kill in the grand palace
and I am done.

So, to answer .-1 question, yes, I think this game can be accomplished without
the use of a rapid fire controller.  It just takes lots of practice and
frustration.

By the way, accumulating lots of lives (using the fire method on the spiders)
is not so bad.  I find it takes me about 4 or 5 links to make it to the grand
palace (when the game looses power).  Killing the spiders and working my way
to 9,000 points takes about 12 minutes per link.  So in 1 hour, I have "enough"
links to comfortably work my way to the final destination.

But, before I hit ^Z, I have a question (in need of a spoiler).













I have only accumulated 7 "heart cases".  I missed one somewhere.  I tried
looking back through the previous replies but I haven't figured out which
heart case I missed.

I know I found the one just south of the first palace and I found one walking
around the desert near the 3 eyes rock.  I don't remember where I found the
other one but I am still missing one.  If I don't get a spoiler, I'll just keep
walking Hyrule until I find it.

Mike

    RE: .521
    
    Thanks for the info about the controller.  I'll plug on, knowing
    that it isn't impossible.  
    
    RE: extra heart
    
    
    [spoiler follows]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    There's one in a cave just east of -well, I forget the name of the
    town - but it's the town just north of the rock you have to 
    hammer to get to the cemetery etc.
    
    
    Joel
    

   In a couple towns you will find creatures in buildings who dont seem very 
talkative. one is a bat and one is a slime. if you are persistent you may be
able to get a clue from one of these. It tells you something about "look over
the water". Try walking around north of the 5th palace.

    Brian.

I found the heart container near the 5th palace and in the cave.  I also found
the one south of the first palace.  I think there is 1 more somewhere but I
can't seem to find it.

Also, anyone want to give me some hints (no outright spoilers please) on the
grand palace?  I have been mapping out this palace for 3 days and I haven't
even come close to finding the final target.

I found the fairy and the doll in the grand palace.

Mike

Spoiler...

Go right and down all the time. Don't go left. You can get to the room you need
to be in, but you will be on the wrong level.

When you go right ang get the fairy amd the doll, go down and left. Break the 
blocks till you fall down.
BIG TIME SPOILER...

DON'T USE TOO MUCH MAGIC! You will need it on the fairy monster. Do a thunder
 and then a reflect, then a jump. Hit the fairy in the face. THIS ISN'T THE LAST
MONSTER! After that you kill your shadow.
	I'm still tring to kill the fairy monster. When you kill your shadow, 
you have won the game.

						Joey Doucette

Who has done all of this with Nintendos control pad!

Spoiler:















one of the sleeping monsters in one of the towns gave a clue of "look over the
water" or something like that. when you head toward the palace that you need
boots for e.g. walking along the path and continuing east across the water to
the palace on a small island totally surrounded by water. try going north about
halfway to the island. there are places you can go north as you first leave the
path then the path north is blocked for a time then 1 space in which you can go
north. go north as far as possible, then go east again. you'll find yourself in
a water scene that acts like swamp. keep going east and there will be land that
you  can jump onto without using jump, but its easier to use jump. there you'll
find a heart container. the spot you are looking for is directly above the 
palace about 5 spaces north.

   The first time I defeated link's shadow I used the max rapid fire option. In
subsequent efforts I was able to use the regular control.


   I found that if you stay to the left side of the screen and hold down most
of the time and just keep stabbing that it doesn't take long to defeat the
shadow. also the enemy just before the shadow, I used thunder as it first came
into view and then shield, and reflect and careful observation to time atacks
to be most effective and avoid getting hurt too much. One trick is to make sure
you have plenty of magic. I found a few places where if you stand in just the right 
place, the floating head demons continue to appear. using the jump thrust on 
these repeatedly allows you to refill your magic. every 6th monster rewards you
with either a magic container or a "P" bag instead of 10 points. so whenever I
found myself in one of these locations I filled up my magic before continuing on
to the next room.

  once you defeat the shadow and view the "credits" at the end of the game you
are returned to the selection screen. you now have level 8 of each of life,
magic, and attack but must collect each of the hidden items again. E.G. heart
containers, hammer, magic containers, etc. you can get the items that give you
access to the magic spells but since you already have all of them its not
really neccesary. about the third time I found I could complete the whole
repeated quest in about an hour.

Thanks to the last few replies for the help.  I think .526 has given me
something to shoot for - you may have described a path to the missing
heart container!  It sounds like a path I had not taken.

I have been poking around the grand palace for about a week and I have
explored it quite a bit.  Sounds like I am close.  Just need more time.

Mike

    Sounds like I am missing some magic containers?  Any spoilers
    on getting those?
    
    
    Joel
    

  you should end up with a total of 8 each magic and life containers. magic
containers can be found in the "hidden" town and in the maze leading to the 4th
palace. more info provided on request.

    Brian

There's also a magic container in a cave.

Thanks to a few back about the heart containers.  I now have all 8.  The
missing one was "in the ocean".

Now if I can just make it back to the grand palace and work my way down
to the final destination...

Mike

Hi,

I was wondering if it was necessary to have played Zelda I
before playing Advs of Link.

Thanks,
Pete

re: .532

>I was wondering if it was necessary to have played Zelda I
>before playing Advs of Link.

No!

- George

    Hi Pete,
       No, it isn't necessary to play Zelda 1 before Adv of Link.
    I know several people who have done it. I have only played the
    first game and don't know if I want to play Link yet .
    
    Jim 

    <help finding #6>
    
    My son has looked everywhere, (I have too), but I can't find palace
    #6.  Grand palace, yes, #6 no.  Major spoiler requested.
    
    Larry

Spoiler:

























Has he tried playing the flute near "3-eyes rock"?  You must stand in
the middle of the 3 and play the flute.  The palace will then appear.

Or has he found this one already and he is missing a different one?

Mike

    I don't know if anyone is still playing LINK, but I got it for Mothers
    Day and I have a couple of questions.  Please bear with me, but
    I have read all 536 notes thus far and still have not found how
    to do the down thrust attack.  I have been in both towns, I have
    closed first castle, I have gone into water town, but I have not
    found the Glove, Hammer.
    
    I would really appreciate any help you might offer.
    
    Thanks,
    Louise
    

re: -1

Please, please, please......
If you are going to give a spoiler then enter a form feed first.
Doing so will allow those readers who do not wish to have the answer, to pass
the reply by without seeing the answer, as they will in your reply.
To enter a formfeed character using a vt200/300 term press the cntl & L keys.

and this is what happens....
Thanks, thanks, thanks

- George

    
    re. .539, and .540
        sorry about that. 
        I have deleted reply .538 and reentered with the <ff> here.
    
    re. .537
    
    spoiler for the down thrust attack ... follows the <ff>


    
    first you need the hammer, which you can find in death mountain after
    the town of Saria, then you use the hammer to break one of these 
    rocks to get to the town of Mido. In mido keep going until you see a 
    church, stop and use the jump spell to get to the top entrance door
    inside you will find the swordsman who will teach you the down thrust
    attack.
    
    BTW: These instractions are from memory by my son George (age 7).
    
    Enjoy,
    Kostas

    I need a spoiler, please.  
    
    
    
    I am having trouble getting passed Daira, the aligator with the
    ax.  I know that your shield can't stop him from slashing you. 
    I have worked so hard to get through the maze in the mountain but
    everytime I get passed one Daira, another soon comes and by that
    time I little or no lives left.  Is there a way to kill him?
    
    SPOILERS WELCOME!!!
    Louise
    
     

re : .542

spoiler follows



It is possible to time you thrusts with your sword and subsequent retreats
so that you can defeat him but, if you have down thrust then try jumping
on his head while using down thrust.

- George

    another spoiler
    
    also if you have REFLECT magic. Use it and it will deflect his axe.

    My next question is...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    where do I find REFLECT magic.  I have not been able to get all
    the way past these guys. Just about the time I finish off one of
    them, all my life is about depleted and all my magic gone, then
    VOILA!, up pops another and another.  I have not yet got the hammer
    nor the down thrust.  Should I have them before attempting to get
    through this maze???
    
    Please help, I am getting a bit frustrated.
    
    Thanks, 
    Louise
    

    HELP!
    
    Is there nobody out there to help anymore??? I have been struggling
    and have just a quick couple of questions...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I am in palace #6 and I have defeated the guardian (dragon) and
    I have looked high and low but have not been able to find the cross.
    Would someone PLEASE give me directions or a clue as to where I
    might find it?
    
    Also,
    
    Is there a secret passage way to get to the grand palace, or do
    I have to keep getting pulverized on the way?  I thought someone
    once mentioned something about blowing the whistle or something
    like that.  Please someone help.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Louise
    

    re: .546
    
    
    
    [spoilers follow]
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    re: the cross
    
    You mean the one that shows the invisible enemies?  It's in the
    palace you're in.  I seem to recall a particular trick for one
    of the places you fall.  Sorry, but it's been a while...
    
    You have to time it just right - when you start to fall, the
    second (I think) ledge you come to, pause the fall by hitting
    the `b' button (or whichever it is you push to use magic) and
    let it fall again for a split second - and immediately push
    the fairy magic button.  You'll be able to `fly' through
    the little passage (to the right) and it's at the end
    of the passage.
    
    Making a map would help...
    
    Joel
    

    Try the following command:
    
    dir/title="cross" 41.*
    
    - Chris

    If you are having trouble with finding the hammer WARNING SPOILER
    FOLLOWS.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    As soon as you get inside death mountain keep on going right through
    all the entrances.  DO NOT GO ON ANY ELEVATORS.  Eventually you
    will reach a beach head.  Go to the clearing with the hole and the
    stone.  Fall down hole and at the end of tunnel you will meet up
    with a red Daira that throws axes.  If you are desperate use JUMP
    to get over it.  If you manage to get back out of the cave, use
    the hammer (A button I think) to break the stone and go down and
    get a MAGIC JAR to get another segment of magic.  If you want to
    know about downward thrust...SPOILER
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You must have hammer to get to Mido.  Once there go to church, use
    JUMP and go inside.  I recall from memory that you can get FAIRY
    magic in Mido.
    
    Mike C.(age 13)

    Oops!  Sorry for not hiding the second spoiler so well.  Anyway,
    I messed up on location of hammer.  First of all, you are supposed
    to go through the entrances that go right.  BUT when you fall down
    the hole in Death Mountain, you SHOULD go on the elevator going
    down.  WARNING if you do not go down that elevator you will lose
    life (possibly magic) and fight your way to nothing more to a dead
    end.  Sorry about the mess-up.
    
    Mike Chmielecki (a teenager)
    

    I just started Link.  One thing I'm confused about (couldn't find it in
    this note) was how to do a "search".  In the directions, it says when
    you are not near anyone and hit the "B" button that you can do a
    search.   I've tried it in villiages, desserts, etc but nothing
    happens.  Should it say that there is nothing to be found, or should
    nothing happen unless there is something there?  Did I misunderstand
    what they said in the directions?
    
    Thanks, Pam

There is no indication when a search does not find anything.  I can only think
of one place right now where a search actually did find something.  In that
instance there was a hint that something was lost.  The place to search was
fairly obvious because there wasn't any other apparent purpose of the place.

    So it's more or less a waste of time to search everywhere unless you
    get a clue.  Well that should save some time.
    
    Thanks, Pam

    I can't believe what I just did.   I just spent about 4 hours playing
    this game, building up attack, lives and magic.   Found a few things.
    After I couldn't take any more abuse, I carefully held in the 
    reset button and then powered it off.  For the heck of it, I turned
    the unit back on to make sure everything was there and IT WASN'T!!!
    I couldn't believe it.  I bought the game used and figured that the
    battery may be on the way out.  Then it dawned on me.  Sh*T, I forgot
    to SAVE it before I hit the reset and power.  I can't believe I
    did that.  I was so frazzled that I didn't even think.  I will never
    do that again.  For now on, I'll save as I play and collect things.
    
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!   Here we go again.
    
    Pam

    Can someone give me a hint.
    
    I have all magic except for REFLECT and SPELL.   Last night I was in
    Darunia and found the lady that said to find her missing child.  I
    found it      (just in case, I'll put the rest behind form feed)
    
    
    
    I brought her back the child and she let me inside the house.  I met
    a wizard and he said to come back when I was ready.  I figured that
    maybe my magic wasn't high enough.  I was at ATTACK 6 MAGIC 6 LIFE 7.
    I fought around and managed to get my MAGIC up to 7.  Still no go.
    Fought some more and got up to Magic 8.  Still no go.  So then I 
    fought until I got my ATTACK at 7 and LIFE at 8.  Still the guy tells
    me I'm not ready.
    
    Do I need to find another Magic Container?  I have 5 squares right now
    for magic but that would mean that I would need over 80 magic points to
    use REFLECT.  Or is this guy looking for something else?   I've found
    all the keys in the 4th palace and the boots.  I can't get past that
    Red Ghost though until I get the REFLECT (or so I hope).
    
    Thanks, Pam

Re .555:

I believe you need more magic containers.  If you have only 5, then you must
find the other 3.  It's been a while since I've played so I can't remember
what this wizard is going to give you but I am pretty sure you have to have
more magic containers.  You indicated that you have 5.  I think there are
4 of them in the world so you have only found 1.


<spoiler on the other magic bottles to follow>















You should have found the first magic bottle in one of the caves near
the starting castle.  I think there is a 2nd bottle either somewhere in the
Death Mountain maze or in one of the caves after going through Death
Mountain.  I believe there is another container in a secret pit somewhere
on the island (need the raft to get to it) and the 4th container is in
the hidden town (hit woods with hammer and town appears).

Hope this helps.

Mike

    Thanks Mike.
    
    
    
    I was afraid that I'd have to hunting for more Magic Containers.
    I only found the first one by the first castle.  At least I got my
    Attack, Life and Magic levels up.  Should make searching the other
    areas again much easier.  Just wanted to make sure that it wasn't
    something else that I needed.
    
    Pam

    Since I played Link first, would it be worth playing ZELDA now?
    
    Pam

        I haven't played Link but from what I understand, it is
    a side-view type game ? Zelda is a top view so it would play 
    a lot differently. I really enjoyed Zelda ! Played it twice
    in fact.
    
    Jim 
    

    
    Re:.561
    
    I agree. I too enjoyed the Legend of Zelda much more then The
    Adventures of Link. They are really two completely different games. 
    Link didn't keep me up until 2 in the morning like Zelda did. 
    
    Steve
    

         Having heard much the same from several of my friends, I am
    busily playing several other games so that when I get around to
    playing Link, Zelda won't be so fresh in my mind.
    
    Jim
    

I liked Zelda much more then Link.  Link was too much of a build up
levels game while Zelda was one big treasure hunt (what I would consider
a true Adventure type game).  In Zelda, I found it necessary to constantly
use maps; in Link I only mapped the final palace and even then, it was
still pretty easy to complete.

Here's an interesting observation about Link & Zelda:

When I finished both Adventure 1 and Adventure 2 of Zelda, I felt like it
was an accomplishment.  It took a long time and experimentation.  When
I finished Link, I now had a Link character that had level 8 magic, level
8 attack and lelvel 8 life with all magic tricks but no crystals.  It then
took me about 1 hour to go through all the palaces and collect all the
crystals and defeat the enemies.  Kind of depressing to work so long to
finish the game and find out that if you had full power everything to start
with it takes about 60 minutes...

Mike

    I need some help.  How do you get across the river in the water town ?
    I've completed the first two palaces and want to find the third.  I have 
    the glove and candle; life, jump, and shield magic. Magic,attack and life 
    levels are all level 7.  I have tried jumping across the river using jump 
    magic, but that didn't work.  Is there something else I need to find or
    do ?  
    Spoiler definitely requested!
    
    Terry 

    Hi Terry
    
    Check note .92
    
    Pam

    okay, thanks for the pointer !
    
    Terry

    Hello, can someone give me some hints !!
    
    1.	Where is the 6th palace ??
    
    2.	Where do we get the upward thrust and how do we use it ??
    
    Many thanks,
    AC

    HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I have been searching the Grand Palace for two weeks now and can't
    seem to find Gannon or this Red Dragon everyone talks about. I have
    read all the replies in this file, used the maps I could find, and
    still no luck. I have found a couple of rooms with fairies, a link
    doll, walked through walls, fell into holes, and still no Gannon.
    The last place I have been to is way down in the palace.  I have to
    change into a fairy and fly across a rather extensive lava pit that
    has three columns going up into the bricks above the lava. The room
    at the other end appears to be a dead-end although there is a chamber
    under it with some yellow blocks on the floor. I haven't been able to
    get into this chamber from any other direction either so maybe the
    blocks on the floor are significant. I have become quite proficient
    at killing the blue and red leaping swordsman so there isn't much
    challenge anymore other than the endless searching for the final
    couple of rooms. If someone could help me with my search I would
    greatly appreciate it. Major spoilers are welcome at this point !!!!!
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Jim Cooper

    Hi Jim
    
    Did you look at the map in .316?  I believe it is very accurate.
    Ganon is at the lowest level of the Grand Palace.  I printed out the
    map to save time on mapping it myself (mapped all the other castles 
    myself).  
    
    I believe after you find the link doll, you will find a hidden tunnel
    on the same level (not the same room).  That should get you close to Ganon.
    First you'll pass a big blue blob, then the blue death angel and then 
    Ganon.  Stick to the right side of the Grand Palace.
    
    Once I got to the Grand Palace, I left the system powered on until
    I completed the game (about 5 days).  This way you don't have to
    fight your way to get there.  I finished off Ganon with 3 lives.
    
    If you're still stuck, send me mail at BAGELS::MATSIS.  I'll dig out
    my own map and will tell you exactly how to get to Ganon.
    
    Good Luck!   Good ending.
    
    Pam

    Clues after formfeed
    
    You have to go through a seemingly solid floor using downward thrust.
    
    I remember there being floating "puppy dog" heads in this room.
    
    The "Red Dragon" and the "Blue Angel of Death" are the same monster.
    Be sure you are full up in magic when you get there - if you aren't
    full up, it is very much harder to kill the angel.
    
    - Chris

    Thanks for the last two replies !! I thought I had used downthrust on
    every floor tile in the palace but probably missed one. Also had been
    spending a lot of time in the left side lately as I thought I had
    exhausted every possibility in the right side of the palace. I have the
    map from .316 but I guess I just don't understand it. I can't quite
    get to a couple of the rooms on the map so I'll try from the right
    side tonight and see if I can find this hidden tunnel. Thanks again !!
    
    Jim

    Well, do I have egg on my face or what ??? I finally realized that
    a certain elevator shaft continues downward. I had been going back
    up after acquiring a couple of items and continuing my search for
    the final encounter . I have now found every thing up to the Red
    flying thing . Thanks for all the help getting to this point, if
    I had looked a little closer I would have notice that I hadn't been
    to all areas.
    
    Jim C.

    
      Okay, I've had Zelda II - The Adventures of Link since last
    Christmas and have played it off and on all year.  I have 
    maxed out my levels (8-8-8), have 8 heart and 8 magic containers,
    and all weapons and magic that one can get.
    
      I have closed all the first six palaces (they all turned to stone)
    and was able to get to the Grand Palace with 4 Links.
    
      Problem:  I came up against the force field at the entrance
    to the Grand Palace, tried every magic in every combination
    I could think of to either turn it off or get through, (even
    tried flying thru a couple of times), couldn't find any
    hidden by-passes.  I just can't get by it, and I have
    nothing left to find.
    
      I would welcome mail to tell me the secret combination, I
    was hoping to finish the game within a year, but looks like
    that resolution has bit the dust.
    
      Thanks,
              Mark
    

    It sounds like one of the first six palaces may still be open.
    The only requirement to get through the force field is to have
    closed the palaces. If you check your status, what count is next
    to the symbol for the crystals ? I bet there is still one there.
    If you have closed all six palaces, and the force field won't
    disappear then you probably have a bad cartridge. Good luck !!
    
    Jim	

    
       Thanks for the replies here and by mail.  I did re-check all
    the palaces and they are indeed stone closed, however I did notice
    that I had one crystal left.  Evidently I was able to close a
    palace without depositing a crystal (don't know why), so I went
    to elimination mode and started over.  What a difference, no
    magic, no strength again, but I will re-do this carefully and
    make sure all the crystals are gone this time before attempting
    the Grand Palace (I'm sure I left it, but that could also be
    the bug in the software too on this particular cartridge.
    
                     Mark

    If you deposit the crystal and it doesnt turn to stone, I realize that
    I have missed getting something in the castle. This is what happened to
    me in castle 5. My question is: Have I got to start all OVER AGAIN!
    or can i hopefully find the item in castle 5? I have looked all over
    for about 3 hrs with no luck:
    
    (possible spoiler)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    I know there is supposed to be a false wall in there....and the
    hopefully the flute...I retrieved the key many moons ago when I first
    entered the castle but unable to locate FLute.... Any help on whether
    i need to start over or a clue to flute will be MUCHO appreciated
    
    Bob

    Possible spoiler, at least a hint.
    
    When you go down to the right, there are two spots where you come
    up against a BLUE knight. One of them has a faulse wall. Try jumping up
    to the right and you'll find it.
    
    Cowboy

    Now that I have completed Castle 5 I need to know if im on the right
    track? I have been to Dead town and Hidden town...and I am
    attempting to go down past 2nd cemetary with all the guys throwing
    rocks behind walls..... Is this the way to castle 6?
    
    I get past these guys and into the jumping lava scenes but I cant
    make it with 3 lives, even though I have read the clues on using
    the correct magic....need help here
    Also is the Grand Palace after castle 6 on the "same route"
    
    
    Been here for a loooooooong time          Bob

    Bob
    
    It's me again. Possible spoiler to follow:
    
    Castle 6 is in the desert at 3 eye rock. You need to be musical. 
    
    The path you are currently following will eventually get you to the
    Grand palace.
    
    Cowboy

    Hi cowboy....
    (possible spoiler)
    
    I understand that castle 6 is at 3 eye rock....but is 3 eye rock
    somewhere in the direction im heading...going thru eyeball hell
    getting pushed into lava ...or should i be looking/heading in another
    direction?
    
                     Right now im not sure if im headin right and was
    also assuming that if I get the cross from castle 6  it might help me
    in this darn path im headin now...and let me see whos pushin me into
    lava.
    
    
             Bob

�                       <<< Note 41.581 by SNAX::NERKER >>>
�                        -< but is it right direction? >-
    
    
    No.  You have gone past it.

    Yo Bob,
    
    More help
    
    
    Palace 6 is in the desert, over the bridge, you went through to get to
    Hidden town and Dead town.
    
    After you come through the 3 areas with the fences and rock throwers,
    go to the right to the bridge. Cross the bridge, Three eye rock is to
    the right and down in the desert, about in the center of it, and to the
    right of the bridge that goes to Dead town. Remember your music
    lessons.
    
    The path you are on now, through the brown area, takes you to 2 caves
    you have to pass through to get to the Grand Palace.
    
    Cowboy

    Thanks guys, I cant believe that I missed this OBVIOUS place to find
    the 6th palace. ill work on shuting this baby down and get back to you
    if I need help in the PALACE. Im not sure if this game is keeping
    my sanity or making me lose it...but at least it helps pass the
    winter..
    
    
    
                  Bob

    
    
    
    possible spoiler follows:
    
    
    I went through the cave in the Tantari Desert. I got this thing that
    looks like a bottle with wings. It doesn't seem to match anything in
    the book. What is it????
    
    tom
    

    re .585:
    
    
    It's a trophy.
    
    Additional hint/spoiler:
    
    Someone in one of the towns is looking for it.

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    My 7 yr old and I just finished off shadow link this weekend.
    
    Thanks to everyone for the running commentary, help and spoilers.
    
    While the solution is fresh in my mind, I'll be glad to pass along tips
    to anyone else in need.
    
    Thanks,
    DJL
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    Shadow link? Which link are we talking about now? 1st;2nd or 3rd? If
    its the 1st one;HELP!!!!!How do you get past thoose reaaalllyyyy
    hard guys to get the whistle in world 5? If not,thanks anyway.
    
    
    			LK
    
    
    

    
    Can someone give me a spoiler as to where Hidden town and Dead town
    are. Thanks.
    
 Walt

    find the dead town in the south east, just west of the desert palace.
    north east of the desert palace there is a cave. when you come out of
    that cave the hidden town is in the trees just south of the cave
    entrance.