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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

2015.0. "Touche" by RUSURE::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Tue Nov 28 1995 10:14

    A little combinatorics exercise:
    
    The game Touche was found at a yard sale.  Under the playing surface,
    it contains five strips.  Each strip contains a row of five magnets,
    with the poles pointed up through the playing surface.  The magnets in
    each strip are inserted at the factory and cannot be altered.  The five
    strips can be placed under the playing surface to form a 5-by-5 array
    of magnets.  Each strip can be flipped over or rotated 180 degrees. 
    The playing surface is not symmetric under rotation (two of the sides
    are distinguished by the player they belong to).
    
    The box claims there are 245,760 games, where each game is a different
    configuration of the magnets.
    
    a) How did they get this number?
    
    b) Why is it wrong?
    
    c) What are the possible correct answers?
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
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2015.1I found five different stripsWIBBIN::NOYCEEV5 issues 4 instructions per meterTue Nov 28 1995 10:4833
    a) How did they get this number?

245760 = 5! * 4^5 * 2
There could be 5! ways to place the strips in their slots.
Each strip could be flipped or not, and rotateded end-for-end or not.
Perhaps the other factor of two represents players changing sides?
Or can you choose to align strips parallel to either X or Y axis?
(I assume not.)

    b) Why is it wrong?

If the factor of two represents changing sides of players, that's already
accounted for by the potential to rotate all the strips end-for-end.

Here are five strips that are all different under flipping and rotation, so
it seems to me that the 5! * 4^5 is achievable.

straight	Nssss	NNsss	NsNss	NssNs	NNssN
rotated		ssssN	sssNN	ssNsN	sNssN	NssNN
flipped		sNNNN	ssNNN	sNsNN	sNNsN	ssNNs
flip & rot	NNNNs	NNNss	NNsNs	NsNNs	sNNss

    c) What are the possible correct answers?

122880 is one possible correct answer.

For each strip that has only two different orientations, reduce by a factor
of 2. (Each strip is different from itself under flipping, since the middle
magnet must change.)

If n strips are identical, reduce by a factor of n!. In the limit, all strips
are identical and symmetric (NNNNN or NNsNN or NsssN or NsNsN), and there
are only 2^5 different configurations.
2015.2RUSURE::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Tue Nov 28 1995 13:1219
    Re .1:
    
    Yes, the alignment of the strips parallel to either the x or the y axis
    accounts for the other factor of two.
    
    In addition to the strips you listed that are different in all four
    positions, there is sNsss.  The four other strips are symmetric under
    rotation, so they only have two positions each.
    
    Given any five strips, how many different boards can be constructed by
    positioning the five strips?  Two boards are different iff their 25
    magnet orientations are not all the same.
    
    
    				-- edp
    
    
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