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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1968.0. "Concours General, France, 1995, problem 2" by BATVX1::ESANU (Au temps pour moi) Wed Apr 19 1995 04:55

The following problem puzzles me:

Six points in the plane are given, A1,A2,A3,B1,B2,B3, such that

	AiBj = i + j

What can be said about these six points?
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1968.1POLAR::WALSHMWed Apr 19 1995 11:028
    The six points are collinear.  Specifically, we can define Ai as being
    (i,0), and Bj as being (-j,0).
    
    What level is the Concours?  This doesn't seem a contest-level
    problem... of course, I suppose maybe if I tried to *prove*
    something... ;)
    
    -- Matt
1968.2A proofWIBBIN::NOYCEThe brakes still work on this busWed Apr 19 1995 11:276
Draw the hyperbola between A1 and A2 that passes through all the points
P where A2P = A1P+1.  Also the hyperbola between A2 and A3 that passes
through the points Q where A3Q = A2Q+1.  The three Bj's are on both
hyperbolas, and no two Bj's coincide.  Since most hyperbolas intersect
in only 1 or 2 points, this is possible only if both hyperbolas are
the degenerate ones that arise when A1A2=1 and A2A3=1.
1968.3re .1 & re .2BATVX1::ESANUAu temps pour moiWed Apr 19 1995 13:448
Thank you for your elegant solution. I think that there still is to be
proven that the 2 hyperbolas cannot intersect in 4 different points, which
is the general case if you consider for each hyperbola both branches.

The Concours General is at high-school senior level ("Terminale" in
French).

Mihai.
1968.4WIBBIN::NOYCEThe brakes still work on this busWed Apr 19 1995 16:345
I think a hyperbola has two branches if it satisfies
	abs( A1P - A2P ) = x
but I was asking for the single branch that drops the "abs".

Think of a LORAN map...
1968.5Sorry!BATVX1::ESANUAu temps pour moiThu Apr 20 1995 05:296
Absolutely right, I mixed up the definition of the hyperbola (with 2 branches)
with that of one branch of the hyperbola...

Splendid solution!

Mihai.