Title: | Mathematics at DEC |
Moderator: | RUSURE::EDP |
Created: | Mon Feb 03 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2083 |
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100001 is divisible by 11. One way of saying "why" this is so is that 100001 is x^5 + 1 (x = 10) and by polynomial division, we see that x^5 + 1 = ( x + 1 ) ( x^4 - x^3 + x^2 - x + 1) In our case x + 1 = 11, so that's "why" 100001 is divisible by 11. 1001 is divisible by 11 because 1001 is of the form x^3+1 for x = 10. Similarly, 1000001, being x^3+1 is divisible by 101 "because" polynomial division shows that x^3 + 1 is divisible by x+1, and x is 100 in our case. Is there always such a "why" for any factorization ? Can some similar explanation be found for "why" 10001 = 73 * 137. We could do one backwards. Out of a hat, I can pick (x+1)(x^2-3x+3) Now I can just plug in x=10. 11 * 100-30+3 = 11 * 73 = 803 So, armed with this knowledge, if someone happened to ask me: Why is 803 divisible by 11 ? I could say Oh it's obvious because 803 is of the form (x+1)(x^2-3x-3) for x=10 !! But how does one work from the factorization back to the polynomials ? We certainly don't have to stick to the number 10. Maybe that's the answer. Maybe 10001 is of some simple polynomial form for some number other than 10 ? But what's the "best" number to pick to illustrate the 73 * 137 ? /Eric
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1861.1 | Dumb answer | UTROP1::BEL_M | Wed Mar 23 1994 04:30 | 7 | |
Well, yeah, a dumb solution.... For all odd products we have a*b=(a+b)/2 * (a-b)/2, or offhand we have 10001=(x+32)(x-32) for x=105. Simplify to 10001=(x-y**5)(x+y**5) for x=105,y=2 and your public is really stunned. I hope this helps ( Though fear it doesn't. ( How about (5x-y**5)(5x+y**5) =;-) One time Math Olympiad winner Michel | |||||
1861.2 | <Slightly too dumb, correction> | UTROP1::BEL_M | sync sync sync sync NAK | Thu Mar 24 1994 03:14 | 3 |
Re .1 I mean a*b=((a+b)/2)**2-((a-b)/2)**2 , where both (a+b)/2 and (a-b)/2 are integer if a and b are both odd or both even. Let (a+b)/2=x and (a-b)/2=y, this reads as x**2-y**2, or (x+y)(x-y) as a polynomial. | |||||
1861.3 | really anything goes | UTROP1::BEL_M | sync sync sync sync NAK | Thu Mar 24 1994 09:24 | 20 |
It is a bit like 'Anything goes what you can get away with'. For example take 2.2.3.3.7.13 as an example. Choose to factor in 2.13 and 2.3.3.7, gives 26.126, or (5^2+1)(5^3+1), or (x^2+1)(x^3+1) for x=5. using 2.3.3, 2.7,13 gives 18.14.13, or x(x+1)(x+5) for x=13 What is still simple in your eyes? x(x+2)(x^2+3) for x=7 In general, given a number a1.a2...an, partition in a selected number of factors and choose a number x such that x is close to a1, x^2 close to a2 etc. That will give your polynomial in a simple form. Most impressive with primes of course. 7*37=(x+1)(x^2+1) Hope this gives a full overview, and answers your question. Michel |