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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1816.0. "HELP ON DOUBLE INTEGRATION QUESTION" by IRNBRU::BECK () Fri Nov 12 1993 03:00

    I have a problem that I have stewed over for sometime, could anybody
    help. The question is as follows:-
    
    Calculate the centre of mass for the following section(shown on the
    diagram below) which has been cut from a uniform metal plate.[use
    double integration to evaluate the centroid position; given that the
    centroid of a uniform semicircle is (4a/3pie) along the diameter, show
    how the results can be checked by elementary methods].
    
    Further, the plate when incorporated into a mechanical system, will be
    rotating about an axis through 0 perpendicular to the plane of the
    plate. Calculate the moment of inertia about this axis.
    
    
    
    			y
    			|. . . 
    			|      '       
                        |        '       Supposed to be circular
                       a|          '      
                        |     ' ' '  '   
                        |   '       ' '    
                        | '          ' '   
                        |'            ' '   
                        |_______|________'______ X
                          1/2 a    1/2a
    
                                         
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1816.1STAR::ABBASIonly 30 days to go and counting..Fri Nov 12 1993 03:2631
    which part of the question are you having trouble with?
    are you having trouble setting up the integration itself, or
    how to evaluate the integration once you set it up ?
    
    in general the center of mass for a 2D section, has x,y coordinates
    
    x= moment of mass around the x-axis
      ----------------------------------
           mass of the section
      
    y= moment of mass around the y-axis
      ----------------------------------
           mass of the section
    
    to find moment of mass around an axis, say x-axis, you just integrate
    over the area multiplied by y.
    
    so moment of mass around x-axis =
    
         Int Int ( y * dA )
    
    where dA = dx dy, and the limits of the integrations go over the
    boundary, i.e. x=from..to, and y=from..to
    
    if the density of the material is not unit, and is a function of x,y
    also, just multiply that with dA above inside the integral.
    
    again, i was not sure what part you having trouble with....
    
    \nasser
      
1816.2Maths the butter of EngineeringIRNBRU::BECKFri Nov 12 1993 05:597
    Nassar,
            Thanks for your fast response, I am going to tackle this
    problem over the weekend. It's the setting up of the integration thats
    the problem. I've a few notes in the house that I am going to browse
    over but if you could get me started that would be superb..
                      
                                       ...........Alan 
1816.3RTL::GILBERTFri Nov 12 1993 22:3228
.0>  show how the results can be checked by elementary methods
    
    Centroids 'add' and 'subtract'.  Let s1 be a section with mass m1 and
    centroid at c1=(x1,y1), and similarly for s2.  The 'sum' of these sections
    has mass m1+m2 and centroid at m1*c1+m2*c2 = (m1*x1+m2*x2,m1*y1+m2*y2).
    Consider subtraction to be the addition of a negative mass.
     
    The centroid for a semicircle was already given.  To find the centroid
    for a quarter circle (demicircle?), add together two semicircular regions
    (with common center and radius) with one is rotated 90 degrees.  One
    quarter is 'two-ply', and two quarters are 'one-ply'.  Subtract the two
    'one-ply' quarters (their centroid is in the center, by symmetry).  This
    leaves the two-ply quarter circle, and so you have its centroid.
    
    If you want the centroid for the section that's filled with x's below,
    simply do one more subtraction.
    
    			y
    			|. . . 
    			|xxxxxx'       
                        |xxxxxxxx'       Supposed to be circular
                       a|xxxxxxxxxx'      
                        |xxxxx' ' 'xx'   
                        |xxx'       'x'    
                        |x'          'x'   
                        |'            'x'   
                        |_______|________'______ X
                          1/2 a    1/2a
1816.4calculuslessHERON::BUCHANANThe was not found.Tue Nov 16 1993 08:1530
>    			 y
>    			 |. . . 
>     			 |      '       
>                        |        '       Supposed to be circular
>                       a|          '      
>                        |     ' ' '  '   
>                        |   '       ' '    
>                        | '          ' '   
>                        |'            ' '   
>                        |_______|________'______ X
                          1/2 a    1/2a
    
	From the semi-circle info, it's easy to get the centre of mass of
a quadrant, just by folding the semi-circle over.   Here, the quadrant has 
centre of mass at (4a/3#,4a/3#), with mass #a�/4.   The smaller semi-circle
has centre of mass at (a/2,2a/3#), with mass #a�/8.   The difference therefore
has centre of mass at (8a/3#-a/2,2a/#), mass #a�/8.   (Assuming unit mass per
unit area, and writing pi as #.)

	Let I be the moment of inertia of a mass, M, about its centre of mass, 
P.   The moment of inertia, J, about some axis at distance r from P is given by
		J = I + Mr�.
	The moment of inertia of a circle of radius r, about its centre is
Mr�/2.   So the moment of inertia of the quadrant is #a^4/8.   The moment of
inertia of the smaller semi-circle about the origin is #a^4/64 + (#a�/8)*(a/2)�
= #3a^4/64.   (There is a subtlety in the last step: the two summands are
(I+My�) and Mx�.)   Anyway, the moment of inertia of the difference about the 
origin is #5a^4/64.

Andrew.