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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1781.0. "does 9.999... equal 10?" by WRKSYS::ARUMUGHAM () Sat Aug 14 1993 09:42

    There was a recent discussion (argument) in rec.arts.startrek.misc and
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    .tech about infinitely repeating numbers... Now is 9.9 equal to 10, or
    is it infitesimally smaller?
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1781.1YESTROOA::RITCHEFrom the desk of Allen Ritche...Sat Aug 14 1993 12:3626
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>    .tech about infinitely repeating numbers... Now is 9.9 equal to 10, or
>    is it infitesimally smaller?
> 

The two numbers represent exactly the same value assuming base 10 of course.

The second number is equal to 1*10 + 0 = 10
while the first is

9 + .9 + .09 + .009 + .0009 + ........  an infinite geometric series whose sum
is exactly 10 (no more, no less).

i.e. S=a/(1-r) = 9/(1-.1) = 9/.9 = 10.0000000000000000

It is interesting that some numbers do not have unique decimal representations
e.g. 10.000000000000000... is equal to 9.9999999999999999... but obviously
not identical in form.

I wonder if this anomoly only occurs for rational numbers.  And what is
the description of all other real numbers that have more than one
decimal expansion.

Allen


1781.23D::ROTHGeometry is the real life!Mon Aug 16 1993 07:397
   One can avoid that ambiguity (equivalence of .99999... and 1.0 and
   the like) if one expresses real numbers in terms of continued
   fraction expansions.

   Than that kind of stuff doesn't occur.

   - Jim
1781.3another approachHERON::BUCHANANThe was not found.Wed Aug 25 1993 06:073
	Also, see 1302.*, (which I no longer understand! :-( )

Andrew.
1781.4HANNAH::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Wed Aug 25 1993 12:0422
One way to prove that 9.999... is 10:


1) start with:		 9.9999... = x

2) mul by 10:		99.9999... = 10x

3) subtract 1 from 2:	90	   = 9x

4) divide by 9		10	    = x




Does this help ?



/Eric