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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1757.0. "College Mathematics Journal #503" by RUSURE::EDP (Always mount a scratch monkey.) Wed May 26 1993 16:37

    Proposed by Louis R. Bragg and Jerrold W. Grossman, Oakland University,
    Rochester, MI.
    
    How many different triangles are there with integral sides of length at
    most n?
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1757.1the first fewRANGER::BRADLEYChuck BradleyWed Jun 02 1993 10:1216
this is a nice problem in enumerations and recursion. here are the first few.
formula and proof as soon as i get time to type it in.

max side	number
1		1
2		3
3		7
4		13
5		22
6		34
7		50
8		70
9		95
10		125
11		161

1757.2A formulaIOSG::CARLINDick Carlin IOSG, Reading, EnglandSun Jun 06 1993 16:3537
    I'll assume, like Chuck, that triangles can be turned over, so we want
    the number of ordered triplets that form a triangle with max side n.
    This can be done in two stages: first find the number of triangles
    whose largest side has length r, then sum from r = 1 to n.
    
    For the first stage the answer depends whether r is odd or even.
    
    If r = 2s then we get
    
        2s + 2s-2 + 2s-4 + ... + 2 = s(s+1)
    
    If r = 2s-1 then we get
    
        2s-1 + 2s-3 + 2s-5 + ... + 1 = s�
    
    So if n = 2t we want the sum
    
        Sigma(1 to t)[s�] + Sigma(1 to t)[s(s+1)] = t(t+1)(4t+5)/6
    
        (several tedious steps left out here - I can never remember the
         formula for sum of squares and I have to work it out from first
         principles every time)
    
    and if n = 2t-1 we want the sum
    
        Sigma(1 to t)[s�] + Sigma(1 to t-1)[s(s+1)] = t(t+1)(4t-1)/6
    
    which seems to agree with Chuck's list. And with a bit of trickery the
    two could be combined.
    
    An alternative method would be to spot that the third differences in
    the table go 0,1,0,1,0,1,... so assume it's a cubic for the odd and
    even cases, solve for the coefficients and then go for induction to
    verify it.
    
    Dick