| Title: | Mathematics at DEC |
| Moderator: | RUSURE::EDP |
| Created: | Mon Feb 03 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 2083 |
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Given two functions fx and ft from R*R to R such that
for every u,x0, and t, fx(u*t+x0,t)=u'*ft(u*t+x0,t)+x0',
find fx and ft. Here, u' and x0' may be functions of u and x0 but not
of t. One may assume that fx and ft are continuous if necessary. It
would be nice to have a general solution, but initial conditions are:
fx(c*t+x0,t)=c*ft(c*t+x0,t)+x0',
fx(-c*t+x0,t)=-c*ft(-c*t+x0,t)+x0',
fx(x0,t)=-v*ft(x0,t)+x0',
fx(0,0) = ft(0,0) = 0,
where c and v are positive constants.
These equations correspond to the postulates of special relativity; the
first one above specifies that paths of uniform velocity translate to
paths of uniform velocity; the first two of the initial conditions
specify that the speed of light is constant in different frames; and
the last two specify that the two frames are moving at v relative to
each other and their origins coincide. The solution is of course the
familiar Lorentz transformation, but I need a rigorous derivation to
show to a crackpot.
I can show the Lorentz transformation satisfies each of the above, but
that does not prove it is a unique solution. Something's eluding me in
maniuplating these equations into the necessary form -- any ideas?
-- edp
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| 1748.1 | RUSURE::EDP | Always mount a scratch monkey. | Wed May 05 1993 19:24 | 5 | |
Note that I expect the first equation can be shown to imply that
fx(x,t)=a0*x+a1*t+a2 for some constants a0, a1, and a2.
-- edp
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| 1748.2 | will check | AUSSIE::GARSON | nouveau pauvre | Mon May 10 1993 03:48 | 6 |
re .1
I believe that I've seen this derivation in a text book. Unfortunately
it was one that I just picked up off the shelf at the library, browsed
through and put back on the shelf. It could take some time to
re-locate if I am even remembering correctly.
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| 1748.3 | AUSSIE::GARSON | nouveau pauvre | Fri May 14 1993 23:06 | 21 | |
.2 (cont.)
"Introduction to Special Relativity", Robert Resnick (Wiley & Sons)
ISBN 0 471 71725 8 (paperback)
Section 2.2 pp56-61
There you will find a derivation of
x' = x'(x,y,z,t)
y' = y'(x,y,z,t)
z' = z'(x,y,z,t)
t' = t'(x,y,z,t)
i.e. the coordinate transformation from (x,y,z,t) to (x',y',z',t')
where the two frames are inertial and in uniform relative motion.
A key assumption is "isotropy" which the author uses to show implies
that each function x'(), y'(), z'() and t'() is linear. The author also
makes the assumption that the relative motion is parallel to the x-axis in
order to simplify the algebra.
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