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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1558.0. "Help needed in choosing parameters to produce a solution" by 3D::ASFOUR () Wed Feb 05 1992 10:33

Given that

	f1(x) = x/(1-x) 


and                  |
	f2(x) =     c+............+-----------
                     |           /.
                     |          / .
                     |         /  .
                     +--------+---+---------- 
                              a   b

and given that   0 <= x < 1, a>=0,b>=0,c>=0, and a<=b.


When do the two functions intersect? (Alternatively, when is f2(x)=f1(x)) ?


My intuition tells me there are three cases:

1-  intersection at (0,0) only. 

2 - intersection at (0,0) and one other point.  

3-  intersection at (0,0) and two other points.

But I can't figure out what choices of a,b, and c produce each of the cases.
(all choices of a,b,c produce a solution at (0,0))

Some trivial cases are:
 a > 1, guarantees case 1. 
 a choice of c=0 will also produce case 1.
 if 0 < a < 1 and a=b (infinite slope), then case 3 holds as long as 
  0<c is finite. 

 What are the other solutions? 
 For example,is there a choice of b and c where  0 < a < 1 that satisfies 
  case 2? How about case 1 when 0 < a < 1 ?

Tbanks for any help.

	Yousif.
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1558.1Lots of solutionsCIVAGE::LYNNLynn Yarbrough @WNP DTN 427-5663Wed Feb 05 1992 13:1112
>	f1(x) = x/(1-x)

The derivative (or slope) of f1 is 
	    1
	--------
	(1-x)**2

Single-point intersections occur either when the curve attains c at x=b, or 
when the ac line also has this slope at the point of interesction. For
example, for x = .5 the slope is 4; and f1(.5) = 1. So a single-point
intersection with f2 occurs at b = .5, c = f1(b) = 1, a = b-c/4 = .475 (for
both reasons!). 
1558.2This is quite tedious!CLT::TRACE::GILBERTOwnership ObligatesWed Feb 05 1992 13:4136
f1(x) = x/(1-x)

	{ 0			when x <= a
f2(x) = { c�(x-a)/(b-a)		when a <= x <= b
	{ c			when x >= b

When is there an intersection in the first part of f2(x)?
    When x <= a and x/(1-x) = 0
    This happens when x = 0 <= a, so x = 0 is the point of intersection

When is there an intersection in the second part of f2(x)?
    When a <= x <= b and x/(1-x) = c�(x-a)/(b-a)
    a <= x <= b and cx� + (b-a-c-ac)�x + ac = 0
    a <= x <= b and x = ((ac+a-b+c) � sqrt(D))/(2c),
	where D = (a-1)��c� - 2�(a+1)�(b-a)�c + (b-a)�
    Now D >= 0 when c <= (a+1 + 2�sqrt(a))�(b-a)/(a-1)�
		 or c <= (a+1 - 2�sqrt(a))�(b-a)/(a-1)�
    Rephrasing in terms of a,
	D >= 0 when a >= (c�+bc-c+b + 2�c�sqrt(bc-c+b))/(c+1)�
		 or a <= (c�+bc-c+b - 2�c�sqrt(bc-c+b))/(c+1)�
	and bc-c+b >= 0 when b >= c/(c+1) or c >= -b/(b-1);
    Rephrasing in terms of b,
	D >= 0 when b >= ac+a+c + 2�sqrt(a)
		 or b <= ac+a+c - 2�sqrt(a)

    So, choosing the best phrasing, they intersect when
	a <= x = ((ac+a-b+c) � sqrt(D))/(2c) <= b,
	where D = (a-1)��c� - 2�(a+1)�(b-a)�c + (b-a)�, and
	|b - (ac+a+c)| >= 2�sqrt(a)
    Note that 0 <= a <= b and c >= 0 ensures a <= ((ac+a-b+c) - sqrt(D))/(2c),
    and with b >= c/(c+1) it ensures ((ac+a-b+c) + sqrt(D))/(2c) <= b.


When is there an intersection in the third part of f2(x)?
    When x >= b and x/(1-x) = c
    b <= x = c/(c+1)
1558.3Thanks for the help.3D::ASFOURThu Feb 06 1992 08:120