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Title: | Mathematics at DEC |
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Moderator: | RUSURE::EDP |
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Created: | Mon Feb 03 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2083 |
Total number of notes: | 14613 |
1529.0. "question on linear mapping, how to find if 1:1?" by STAR::ABBASI () Mon Dec 09 1991 21:13
hi ,
for those who like functional analysis stuff, i can share this question with
you.
in my finals today we got this question.
Let V be some Hilbert space, let x1,x2 in V, be some two vectors. define
a mapping T:V->V by Tx= <x,x1>x1 + <x,x2>x2
(note that <.,.> is the inner product function, this is a function
that takes VxV and returns real number., and has other
properties)
a) show it is linear.
ok , i showed that by showing that T(ax+by)= aTx+bTy, no problem
here.
b) is T continuouse? i struggled on this, i know the definition of
continuouse, but iam not sure i convised the prof. with my argument.
c) what is its NULL space?
i knew that a NULL space is the set of vectors in V s.t. Tx->0
so, any x vector that makes <x,x1>x1+<x,x2>x2 = 0 is in Null space.
so i said <x,x1>x1 = - <x,x2>x2
so here not knowing if x1,x2 are orthoginal or not (question did not
say), i said the x is the vector that is orthogonal to both x1 and
x2 ?
d) under what conditions will T be 1:1 ?
i knew that 1:1 means no two vectors in V will map to the same
image point under T, but how to find if T is 1:1.
i only knew if given Basis in V, i can build the Matrix
representation of T induced on the the Basis, and can then try to
find the determinant of [T] matrix and see if if singular or not.
if det[T] = 0 , then it is not 1:1, if not zero, then it could be.
any way, my question here to you guys, is how to show that a linear
operator is 1:1 on some vector space, given T but we are not given the
Basis of the space? is there a *systematic* way of doing this?
i have to show that no two vectors can have same image... humm
may be i can assume there are two such vectors and show a
contradiction, .. now i think about it..too late..
c) what is the image of T, what is its rank, wnder what conditions will
it be onto?
i wrote some stuff herem hopefully somewhat convincing.
any way most of this questions is probably out of the window for me,
this one the easist question, so i feel doooommed, iam going to go
and cry a little and feel soory for myself now , hopefully i'll feel
better...i doubt it.
than you.
/nasser
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1529.1 | you know more than you think | CORREO::BELDIN_R | Pull us together, not apart | Tue Dec 10 1991 08:01 | 6 |
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What you missed is that you were given the basis: x1 and x2 are the basis by
construction. Much of what you are looking for can be found by looking for
the implications of that fact.
Dick
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1529.2 | x1,x2 may not be a basis for V | HIBOB::SIMMONS | Tristram Shandy as an equestrian | Tue Dec 10 1991 13:17 | 3 |
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x1 and x2 are a basis for the image of T but V may be bigger.
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1529.3 | 1-1 hint | HOBBLE::GERTLER | | Tue Dec 10 1991 14:18 | 15 |
| Rather than show a proof for 1-1, how about a hint?
Consider 3-space with x1 not = x2. Then you can form a basis
{x1, x2, x3}. Note that the transformation T is then the coordinates
of the vector x in the plane defined by x1 cross x2. Therefore, all
vectors which share the same x1 and x2 coordinates will be mapped by
T into the same vector!
Think about this and you'll see what conditions are needed for T to be
1-1.
Note: In your proof, you'll have to consider a space with arbitrary
dimension and also the case when x1 = scalar * x2.
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1529.4 | Onto | HOBBLE::GERTLER | | Tue Dec 10 1991 14:26 | 12 |
| As for the image question, consider what vectors may be constructed by
T -
If x1 is not a scalar multiple of x2, then T defines the two
dimensional space determined by the basis {x1,x2}.
I.e. The image is the x1,x2 plane.
Regarding the onto property, take a vector y which lies within the
x1,x2 plane ie y = a x1 + b x2 and put it through the transformation T.
What do you get?
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1529.5 | | COOKIE::PBERGH | Peter Bergh, DTN 523-3007 | Tue Dec 10 1991 16:25 | 8 |
| <<< Note 1529.0 by STAR::ABBASI >>>
-< question on linear mapping, how to find if 1:1? >-
>> b) is T continuous? i struggled on this, i know the definition of
>> continuous, but iam not sure i convinced the prof. with my argument.
It's easy to show that i) T is bounded and ii) any bounded linear mapping is
continuous.
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1529.6 | thanks | STAR::ABBASI | | Tue Dec 10 1991 21:47 | 10 |
| ref .5
oh, i think that is what he wanted, he talked very little about
bounded operators at the end of the course, so i did not study it
(also for lack of time), and so i did not know about this fact.
ref all, thanks for input, i'll go over it , but if i do manage to get
a B or better in that course iam gonna invite you guys to a pizza
with all the toppings to celebrate. deal ?
/nasser
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