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1379.1 | | HPSTEK::XIA | In my beginning is my end. | Thu Jan 31 1991 18:21 | 10 |
| Doing cube roots in their heads? Ya gotta be kidding. Ask 'em what is
the cube root of 2.
I think it is all gimmick. Yea, there are some tricks one can do with
arithmatics, but what is the point other than getting good grades?
Calculators should be able to take care of that. You can teach a third
grader how to take derivatives on polynomials, but what will be the
point with learning some artificial rules?
Eugene
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1379.2 | | CHOVAX::YOUNG | Digital WeatherMan. | Tue Feb 05 1991 01:07 | 10 |
| Tricks? Sure, I used to "Amaze My Friends" in college by taking the
Cube Root of 15-digit numbers, and generally faster than their
calculators could (really, I'm not kidding). I could describe the method,
but it only works for integer cube roots.
Ther *are* mentalist tricks for real-valued (OK, of limited decimal
precision) cube roots and the other things that you mentioned. You
probably know them as "Logarithim Tables".
-- Barry
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1379.3 | | HPSTEK::XIA | In my beginning is my end. | Tue Feb 05 1991 01:37 | 17 |
| re .2,
Naw Barry, you ain't gonna be faster than the calculator. It is just
that it takes a lot of time to punch in the numbers. A more fair test
will be to have someone key in the number first and when you are
shown a 15 digit number the other guy press the cuberoot key.
I remember reading Richard Feymann's _Surely you must be joking Mr.
Feymann_. In it he played a lot of those tricks on arithematic. I
still remember the part about a Japanese trying to sell him an
abacuss. It is amazing what one can do with the numbers, but that
requires an understanding of a lot of series and sequences and other
miracle stuff. More headache than their worth especially in this
electronic age.
Eugene
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1379.4 | Useful ability. | ECAD2::MBLAKE | | Wed Feb 06 1991 14:46 | 13 |
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Thanks for the replies.
OK. Let's forget about the cube roots for the moment. These people
could also add 3-three digit numbers in their head in the same time it
would take me to input them into the calculator. And also multiplied
2-three digit numbers in the same time.
I agree a calculator could do the same but I don't always have my
calculator with me. I'd like to be able to mentally add up prices of
groceries (before going to the register and finding out I don't have
enough cash). Or numbers a salesman throws out quickly. Of course,
I could do this given enough time or after rechecking the written
numbers. But I think it would be useful to have this ability.
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1379.5 | | HPSTEK::XIA | In my beginning is my end. | Wed Feb 06 1991 17:17 | 11 |
| re .4,
If you find it useful, then learn it. The key word is "useful". It is
like getting used to an operating system. If you don't USE it for more
than a few weeks, you forget about it. I used UNIX in college, but
have forgotten most of it by now. Of course, it will be easier to pick
it up again than to learn it from the start, but still I don't know
much about it if you put me on a UNIX machine right now, and this is
the point.
Eugene
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1379.6 | memorize, memorize, memorize | CADSYS::COOPER | Topher Cooper | Wed Feb 06 1991 17:19 | 24 |
| Books that I have seen on this subject basically contain two things:
1) Lots of stuff to memorize. Some lighting calculators memorize
log tables but that is beyond most people. What is in the
range for many people is memorizing the standard arithmetic
tables in some other base which is relatively easy to convert
to and from decimal. An obvious one is base 100. A little
easier to memorize but a bit harder to use is base 25.
2) Lots of special cases, which can be recognized quickly with
practice, things like to multiply anything (say x) by any number
ending in a 9 (say 10y+9), multiply x by y+1 add a 0 and
subtract x. One which I have actually found useful is applying
binomial expansion to square a two digit (or low-3 digit)
number: ab^2 = (a^2)00 + b^2 + (2*a*b)0 if you'll excuse my
ad hoc notation.
My advice: buy a calculator watch -- mine will do general exponentials,
logs, trig functions and convert in and out of hex, octal and binary.
That's more than the mental math courses teach, and, translating
learning time to money, is very much cheaper unless you have a
phenomenal memory.
Topher
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1379.7 | | CHOVAX::YOUNG | Digital WeatherMan. | Fri Feb 08 1991 01:36 | 32 |
| Re .3:
> Naw Barry, you ain't gonna be faster than the calculator. It is just
> that it takes a lot of time to punch in the numbers. A more fair test
Only half true, Eugene. It's true that that is one of the standard
tricks of the practicing lightning calculator (and I used lots of
them), but there was more to than that.
As I recall, 15 digits was a *REAL* stretch for me and I only ever did
it on one occasion (and I had to practice like the devil for it). 15
digits took me so long that I could never really beat a calculator.
(Of course only a special calculator could handle 15 digits in those
days). I could not even hope to do it today.
The other end of the scale was different story however. To this day I
can *still* do 6 digit cube roots in my head, with only about a minute
of prepartion. And in my college days I could do them *very* fast.
In fact, I had a number of friends who would try to beat me by punching
up the Cube on the calculator, and would then show me the number at
the same that they hit the cube-root key, and I never failed to beat
it. Of course, I did have some help. The calculators of those days
(late seventies) for most non-Arithmetic functions (Roots, Exponents,
Etc.) had a noticable delay of 2 to 4 seconds before returning their
answer.
And yes, a lot of people just assumed that I had memorized all of the
numbers from 1 to 100 cubed. But it is much simpler (IMHO) than that,
I am much to lazy and absent-minded to retain that large a table for
this long.
-- Barry
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1379.8 | Trachtenberg Speed System of Math | BAGELS::SREBNICK | The buck starts here. | Mon Mar 04 1991 17:13 | 58 |
| There are some unusual methods that are documented in a (probably
out of print) book called "The Trachtenberg Speed System of
Mathematics" by Ya'akov Trachtenberg. It was old when I first
read it in 1973. Libraries would probably have it.
Ya'akov Trachtenberg had the misfortune of being interred by the
Nazis in a concentration camp. To keep himself sane, he developed
methods for doing arithmetic in his head. It includes methods for
addition/subtraction, multiplication, division, and square roots.
It is possible, for instance, to multiply two numbers of many
digits each in your head, writing down only one digit at a time
(right to left).
It's been quite some time since I've seen the book, but I
remember that the rules are more than just the typical short cuts.
Some of them are truly counter-intuitive.
You do not have to memorize large multiplication tables (1 - 9 is
sufficient). You do not have to memorize addition tables (again,
0 - 9 is sufficient). There are no mnemonics involved.
For instance, when adding a large column of numbers, Trachtenberg
describes a method of casting out elevens (yes, elevens) instead
of nines. It is one of the few algorithms that I remember. It's
a bit involved, but if you're interested, send me MAIL and I'll
post the method.
Multiplying a number by 11 or 12 is a piece of cake. For 11:
Beginning with the least significant digit, add it to it's
neighbor on the right, writing down the result as the next
digit of the answer.
1883473928347 x 11 =
7 + (nothing) = 7
4 + 7 1
3 + 4 + carry 8
8 + 3 1
2 + 8 + carry 1
9 + 2 + carry 2
3 + 9 + carry 3
7 + 3 + carry 1
4 + 7 + carry 2
3 + 4 + carry 8
8 + 3 1
8 + 8 + carry 7
1 + 8 + carry 0
1 + carry 2
Result: 20718213211817
For 12, same process, except that you double the digit before you
add to the right neighbor.
Other algorithms for 2 - 9 involve taking a digit (or half of a
digit, dropping the remainder) and adding it to its neighbor (or
half its neighbor).
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1379.9 | | ALLVAX::JROTH | I know he moves along the piers | Mon Mar 04 1991 22:27 | 13 |
| I saw a book by Devi Shekuntala (sp?), a modern calculating prodigy.
It had lots of tricks for doing mental arithmetic.
I was given an abacus as a gift when I was a kid and the book of
instructions was a lot like these books for mental calculations -
lots of memorized procedures for doing things. It wasn't very
appealing.
Speaking of computational aids of yesteryear, anyone remember the
Kurta calculators? A pepper mill kind of gadget that was popular
with auto rallyists.
- Jim
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1379.10 | | WONDER::COYLE | | Tue Mar 05 1991 08:55 | 11 |
| RE .9
I remember the Kurta (from my auto rallying days) It always
amazed me how the really proficient could crank out answers
with it.
I remember they came in two sizes (more digits). It seemed
to have been designed with the rallyist in mind (a running
accumulation of successive additions for each .10 or .01 mile).
-Joe
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1379.11 | More on Trachtenberg | DEMSTA::WHITTLEY | | Thu Mar 21 1991 13:36 | 223 |
| Hey, great.
Lets hear some more detail on Shekuntula, Kuntas, etc.
I can add a bit more on Trachtenberg.
I searched this conference about 6 months ago but found nothing on it.
Nor was there even anything on Arithmetic. I found this a bit surprising.
Gauss rated the subject quite highly in his day. Could it really have fallen
this far from grace? Its been a while since I was a practising Mathie,
and I thought the world had perhaps moved on from such mundane things!
[Also, nothing on computer arithmetic. I seem to remember that the evolution
of combinatorial configurations of logic gates designed to produce faster
arithmetical results was a mind blowing story.
Has this path also petered out ... ?]
Anyway, on to Trachtenberg ...
I picked up a paperback copy of "The Trachtenberg Speed System of Basic
Mathematics" a few months back. It is a translation by Ann Cutler and Rudolph
McShane. Trachtenberg's first name listed as "Jakow". He was a Russian Jew.
According to the inside cover of the book, the first British Edition was
published in February 1962 by Souvenir Press. It was reprinted several times
in the sixties, then re-issued in 1984. The copy which I have is a paperback
re-issue dated 1989. ISBN is 0 285 62916 6. Cost was 5.95 pounds.
I picked it up 'cos my kids are at that age when 'sums' forms a major part of
the evening's conversation. I needed something new to give me the edge for a
change!
I would have to say that I am still undecided as to the merits of the system's
tricks, especially w.r.t. allowing speedy calculations.
I share the opinion of the previous contributors on this topic.
My times to date haven't yet exceeded the ones using the standard techniques
taught to me a long time ago!
However, I think that this is more due to a mental reluctance to learn the
(somewhat non-intuitive) rules. Being able to forget the existing ones would
also help. As with everything in this world, what you get out depends on what
you put in!
The technique is apparently taught quite extensively in Switzerland (where
Trachtenberg founded the Mathematical Institute) and also in the USA.
I have never seen any sign of it in (north) British education.
One of the aims of the system is to allow ALL children to become masters of
calculation, and claims some very spectacular successes.
The method of adding (casting out 11's) means that you never have
to count higher than 9+9 at any stage, so only a relatively small 'table'
needs to be memorised. This helps new learners get to the state where they feel
that they are on top of the figures that much quicker. Early confidence keeps
them going through the stickier bits of the method learning activity.
Another feature in the adding method (extra-Trachtenberg, but incorporated)
is that of "casting out 9's" to check the calculation. This is done on each
of the original rows or columns of figures, the working and the final result.
Again, I had never come across this.
This is something which would be useful even if you had an electronic
calculator to hand, when you could make a mistake typing in the figures.
The claim is that it guarantees 99% accuracy.
[I am still trying to work out how.]
As is pointed out in the book, most people were never taught to check the
result. If we did, it would probably be by laboriously performing the whole
calculation several times, accepting the answer when it came out the
same on several successive attempts!
Here is a very small example, adding together four three digit numbers.
digit sum
for each row
num 1 9 6 7 -------> 4
num 2 7 . 5 . 8 . -------> 2
num 3 5 7 9 . -------> 3
num 4 8 . 6 . 5 -------> 1
--------------------- ----
1 Digit sum of rows
Wrk 1 7 2 7 -------> 7
Wrk 11 2 2 2 -------> 6
6
----
1 Digit sum of working
--------------------------
ans 3 1 6 9 -------> 1 Digit sum of answer
First step is to add the columns.
It doesn't matter in which order, or whether up or down.
I chose to do it from the top down.
Add the digits together, but each time they exceed 11, through away 11, hang on
to the remainder and mark a dot beside the row.
Then continue with this remainder, adding it to the digit on the next row down.
The first column goes ....
9 + 7 = 16 = 5 + 11 think "5 ."
5 + 5 = 10
10 + 8 = 18 = 7 + 11 think "7 ."
This final 7 is written in the "wrk 1" row.
The dots in the column are added and their sum written in the "wrk 11" row.
[Once practised, you don't do the sums or write the dots each time.
You just learn "7 + 8 = 4 .", and keep a running tally of the dots.]
Once all the columns have been done, the "wrk 1" and "wrk 11" rows are combined
by doing a dog-legged summation.
Start at the right hand end and simply add the two rows together.
7 + 2 = 9
Move left to the next column.
Add the two digits togther as before, but also add in the digit in the "wrk 11"
row to the right.
2 + 2 + 2 = 6
Repeat this to the left, also going in to the fourth (and possibly fifth?)
columns, pretending they have zeros written in them.
The lines are then checked by calculating the digit sums.
Just add the digits together, combining them if the resulting number ever gets
in to mutiple digits. (9's or sums to 9 can be thrown away.)
So, for example, the number 967 generates a check sum of 4.
9 + 6 = 15 ----> 1 + 5 = 6 (or we could have thrown away the 9)
6 + 7 = 13 ----> 1 + 3 = 4
The three checks should now all come to the same thing.
a) The check of the (sum of the checks of the rows)
b) The check of the working ("wrk 1" + "wrk 11" + "wrk 11")
c) The check of the answer.
If not, you got the sum wrong somewhere.
If OK, you are 99% likely of having got it correct!
The book does open up all sorts of questions in one's mind about the techniques
for calculation learnt already.
What are their strengths/weaknesses?
Why do they work?
How on earth did anyone ever manage to come up with that algorithm
in the first place?!
For example, how was the calculating method for finding square roots (as
displayed in the following example for 239) devised?
1 5 . 4
--------------------------
1 \ 2 39 . 00
1 \ 1
----\-----
2 5 \ 1 39
5 \ 1 25
-------\-----
3 0 4 \ 14 00
4 \ 12 16
----------\---------
3 0 8 \ 1 84
[Its funny how books on the origins of such things seem to be hard to come by.]
Lots on the causal structure of non-positive-definite metric paracompact
orientable differentiable manifolds, but none on how to work out cube roots!]
I found Trachtenberg's method for finding square roots to be the least
different from the calculating techniques which I knew. It was similar but
subtley different.
Its major improvement is that the numbers involved at each stage remain
small and do not increase in size as the calculation proceeds.
However, once again, it is harder to learn initially.
[Neither method seems particularly intuitive.
Thought: Is this connected in any way with the fact that the square root
operation doesn't have a natural geometrical analogue?]
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