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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

1358.0. "PSAT test question" by GIDDAY::GILLINGSNP (a crucible of informative mistakes) Thu Dec 20 1990 19:15

  Hi there,
    My step daughter recently sat for a US "PSAT" test here in Australia (she
  is a US citizen). On seeing the results, I am convinced that one of the
  official answers is incorrect. Before sending any overseas letters, I'd like
  to get an opinion from the MATH readership. I won't say what the correct 
  answer is supposed to be to avoid prejudgement. Here is the question:

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  PSAT October 20th 1990

  Question 34 in Maths section

  If x�+x-12 < 0 what is the greatest integer value that x can have?

  a) -4
  b) -1
  c)  0
  d)  2
  e)  3
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  So what would your answer be?

					John Gillings, Sydney CSC
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1358.1(d)CHOVAX::YOUNGGive peace a chance.Thu Dec 20 1990 23:021
    
1358.2JARETH::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Fri Dec 21 1990 08:104
    Yes, it's d.  What answer did the test have?
    
    
    				-- edp
1358.3GUESS::DERAMODan D&#039;EramoFri Dec 21 1990 12:151
        (d) 2
1358.4moderators, am I allowed to repost these here?GUESS::DERAMODan D&#039;EramoFri Dec 21 1990 12:1739
	I wonder if these are relevant here:
        
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Note 1357.3              Representation of cones in R^2                   3 of 4
SHIRE::ALAIND "Alain Debecker @GEO DTN 821-4912"     19 lines  21-DEC-1990 06:15
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>        re .-2
>        
>       You twice use "positive" where I think you mean
>       "nonnegative"
        
	A matter of culture.  In many countries, zero is taken as a 
        number both positive and negative,  and the sentence  "x is 
        smaller than y" means x <= y. In US and UK, zero is neither 
        positive nor negative,  and  "x is smaller than y"  doesn't 
        allow for equality.

	Nevertheless, you are right.  I was lousy on the edges:


	Note that the condition (4) is equivalent to the fact that 
        the cone is closed.  An *open* set verifying condition (1)
	to (3) is of the form  K = { su + tv | s,t > 0 }.  The same 
        demonstration holds:  this time, the intersection of K and 
        the cone is open, thus of the form ]u,v[ instead of [u,v].
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Note 1357.4              Representation of cones in R^2                   4 of 4
CHOVAX::YOUNG "Give peace a chance."                  7 lines  21-DEC-1990 11:38
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    Re .4:
    
    But these are fairly precise terms in English.  For instance,
    "Positive" in English has a precise meaning, ie. "Greater than
    zero."
    
    --  Barry
1358.5re .0EAGLE1::BESTR D Best, sys arch, I/OFri Dec 21 1990 17:4015
The equation factors into (x-3)(x+4) < 0.

This requires either
x-3 > 0 AND x+4 < 0
OR
x-3 < 0 AND x+4 > 0

No value of x can satisfy the first conjunction.

The second conjunction can be rewritten as -4 < x < 3.

The greatest integer x meeting this (assuming greatest means most positive and
not largest absolute value) is 2.

You take the PSAT in Australia ?  My but ETS has a long reach.
1358.6math good, reading bad :*(GIDDAY::GILLINGSa crucible of informative mistakesSat Dec 22 1990 04:0015
    Thanks for the replies.
    
    d (2) was indeed the answer I was looking for. On triple checking I
    found that both myself and my wife misread the answer sheet. We thought
    the official answer was E (3) but it was D :*( (is that a red face?)
    
>You take the PSAT in Australia ?  My but ETS has a long reach.
    
    US citizens (like my step daughter) may take PSAT and SAT exams if
    they wish. Heidi was just practicing as she is only 15 (year 10). She will
    do a "real" one next year. Despite getting this question wrong, she
    still managed a 96th percentile result :-).
    
    					John Gillings, Sydney CSC
                                                                       
1358.7GUESS::DERAMODan D&#039;EramoSat Dec 22 1990 21:093
        Tell her, "Congratulations!"
        
        Dan