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1203.2 | problem stated verbatim | DUGGAN::J_FERRARA | | Mon Mar 05 1990 12:47 | 28 |
| Okay ..here is the problem verbatim
Given A a 2 x 2 matrix
2
Given P(x) = x +2x +1
Given P(A) has eigenvalues 4 and 1
Given f(x)= x
---
P(x)
3 2
then f(A)= k3A + k2A +k1A+k0I where k3,k2,k1 and k0 are scalars
Find k3,k2,k1,k0?
2. Assume P(A) = D a diagonal matrix (|d11|>|d22|) Find an A (maybe
more than one A exists)
3 Given k's found above does A 3 2
----- =k3A +k2A +k1A +k0I for all A??
that's it..
j
P(A)
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1203.3 | | HPSTEK::XIA | In my beginning is my end. | Mon Mar 05 1990 14:51 | 28 |
| Well, the way, I am going to do it is using the brute force
undeterminded coefficient method. As usual, I am quite lazy about the
details, so I am just going to find k0 for ya and let ya do the rest.
Well, we first let P(A) = [4 0]
[0 1]
and one choice for A then is [1 0]
[0 0]
Ok, so A/P(a) = [1/4 0]
[0 0]
So we have:
k3 + k2 + k1 + k0 = 1/4 and
k0 = 0
So we have found k0 = 0 and the relation: k3 + k2 + k1 = 1/4.
Now all you have to do is to come up with other A's that will
give similar equations. Make sure the A's you come up has some off
diagnol elements; otherwise, it is no good.
Eugene
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1203.4 | is this therefore true? | DUGGAN::J_FERRARA | | Mon Mar 05 1990 15:44 | 18 |
| Since your selection of A= 1 0
0 0
3 2
then A = 1 0 and A = 1 0
0 0 0 0
therefore
1/4 0 = k3 [1 0] + k2[1 0] +k1 [ 1 0]
0 0 [0 0] [0 0] [ 0 0] doesn't this require
k3 = 1/12 k2= 1/12 k1 = 1/12 ???
john
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1203.5 | | AITG::DERAMO | Dan D'Eramo, nice person | Mon Mar 05 1990 19:00 | 4 |
| I don't believe his choice determines k3, k2, and k1.
That's why you have to keep trying with other A's.
Dan
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1203.6 | | AITG::DERAMO | Dan D'Eramo, nice person | Mon Mar 05 1990 19:51 | 29 |
| 1) If P(A) has eigenvalues 4 and 1, then P(A) satisfies the
characteristic equation with roots 4 and 1, i.e., (x-4)(x-1)
= x^2 - 5x + 4 yields the zero matrix when you substitute
P(A) for x. So (P(A))^2 - 5P(A) + 4I = 0, where I is the
identity matrix. This gives P(A) (-P(A) + 5I)/4 = I, or
1/P(A) = (-P(A) + 5I)/4, and f(A) = A/P(A) = A(-P(A) + 5I)/4 =
A(-A^2 - 2A - I + 5I)/4 = (-1/4)A^3 + (-1/2)A^2 + A, from
which you read off k3 = -1/4, k2 = -1/2, k1 = 1, k0 = 0.
2) Try diagonal A = (a 0)
(0 b)
Then P(A) = (a^2 + 2a + 1 0) = (4 0)
(0 b^2 + 2b + 1) (0 1)
(as P(A) is diagonal with eigenvalues 4 and 1 and the upper
left entry greater in absolute value than the lower right
entry). Solving yields |a+1| = 2 and |b+1| = 1, so four
examples are
( 1 0) ( 1 0) (-3 0) (-3 0)
( 0 -2) ( 0 0) ( 0 -2) ( 0 0)
3) I doubt that A/P(A) = (-1/4)A^3 + (-1/2)A^2 + A for all A,
because those numbers were derived assuming that P(A) has
eigenvalues 4 and 1. Choose an A with P(A) having different
eigenvalues to find trial counterexamples. Let A = 2I, then
P(A) = 7I and f(A) = A/P(A) = (2/7)I but (-1/4)A^3 + (-1/2)A^2 + A
= -2I. So A = 2I is a counterexample.
Dan
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1203.7 | A's with non zero eigenvectors?? | DUGGAN::J_FERRARA | | Tue Mar 06 1990 10:25 | 8 |
| Responding to Dan's solution...It part 2.. the A's you suggested
ie 1 0 -3 0
0-2 0-2 etc satisfy P(A)= Diagonal matrix 4 0
0 1
Would it be possible to find an A that has at least 2 eigenvectors??
the above A's all have zero eigenvectors..
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1203.8 | | AITG::DERAMO | Dan D'Eramo, nice person | Tue Mar 06 1990 11:03 | 5 |
| They don't have zero eigenvectors. I thought their
unit eigenvectors would be (1) and (0).
(0) (1)
Dan
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1203.9 | You're right.. | DUGGAN::J_FERRARA | | Tue Mar 06 1990 11:28 | 8 |
| re .8
that's right 4 0 1 0 4 0 1 0
0 1 = 0 1 0 1 0 1
S D S inverse
Thanks Dan
J
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