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961.0. "Area of Mandelbrot Set" by LEDDEV::MORONEY (License and registration, please...) Sun Oct 30 1988 22:37

Here's a problem that I suspect is difficult, if not impossible to solve...

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Subject: Area of Mandelbrot set
Posted: 28 Oct 88 20:17:38 GMT
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What's the area of the Mandelbrot set?

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961.1Need DefinitionHIBOB::SIMMONSMon Oct 31 1988 11:293
    Can anyone tell me the precise definition of the Mandelbrot set?
    
    Chuck
961.2AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoMon Oct 31 1988 12:3431
     The Mandelbrot set is a subset of the complex plane.
     Take the sequence of complex numbers given by
     
                                   2
          a[0] = x    a[n+1] = a[n]  + y     n = 0,1,2,3,...
     
     Call this sequence a(x,y).      
     
     Given such a sequence, the set of points { a[n] | n = 0,1,2,...}
     is either a bounded set or an unbounded set.
     
     "The" Mandelbrot set is the set of all those complex
     numbers z such that the sequence a(0,z) is bounded.
     [It could just as well have been the sequence a(z,z)
     which is the sequence a(0,z) minus its first element.]
     
     It can be shown that with the exception of the sequence
     a(0,-2) = 0, -2, -2, -2, -2, ... that the set of points
     is unbounded if and only if it contains a complex number
     z with |z| >= 2.
     
     I am less sure about this next part; but I think the
     set of z such that the sequence a(c,z) is bounded for
     any other complex c is also called "a" Mandelbrot set;
     and the set of complex z such that a(z,c) for a fixed
     complex number c is bounded is called a Julia set.
     
     There is a notes conference on the Mandelbrot set (and
     programs that draw images of it) at TLE::MANDELBROT.
     
     Dan
961.3TURRIS::MANDELBROTAITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoMon Mar 27 1989 13:5013
	re .2

>>     There is a notes conference on the Mandelbrot set (and
>>     programs that draw images of it) at TLE::MANDELBROT.

	A while back this moved, along with all of the other notes
	conferences on node TLE, to node TURRIS.  So make that

		Notes> ADD ENTRY TURRIS::MANDELBROT

	or use KP7 or select to add.

	Dan
961.4AITG::DERAMODaniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'EramoSun Aug 13 1989 09:4524
        re .2
        
>>     It can be shown that with the exception of the sequence
>>     a(0,-2) = 0, -2, -2, -2, -2, ... that the set of points
>>     is unbounded if and only if it contains a complex number
>>     z with |z| >= 2.
        
        Oops, make that, it can be shown that with the exception
        of the sequence a(0,-2) = 0, -2, 2, 2, 2, ... that the
        set of points is unbounded if and only if it contains a
        complex number z with |z| >= 2.
        
>>     I am less sure about this next part; but I think the
>>     set of z such that the sequence a(c,z) is bounded for
>>     any other complex c is also called "a" Mandelbrot set;
>>     and the set of complex z such that a(z,c) for a fixed
>>     complex number c is bounded is called a Julia set.
        
        The actual definitions are a little broader than that. 
        The second one I mentioned gives a filled in Julia set. 
        The actual Julia set would be the boundary in the complex
        plane of the filled in Julia set.
        
        Dan