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Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
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801.0. "Article on Paul Erdos" by SPYDER::TURNER () Fri Dec 11 1987 03:36

    The November 1987 issue of The Atlantic has a well-written profile
    of Paul Erdos, which includes a brief discussion of the dinner-guest 
    problem.
    
    $2.00 at classy newsstands everywhere.
    
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801.1n.a. in the U.K.BIOMIC::TURRELLI will not Reason and Compare:Tue Dec 22 1987 09:233
       Anyone care to enter a brief description of the afore mentioned
    dinner guest problem for those of us not privileged enough for access
    to classy newstands?
801.2 copies of this article available on request SYZYGY::SOPKASmiling JackSat Jan 09 1988 21:5739
	"The Man Who Loves Only Numbers"  by Paul Hoffman
	from THE ATLANTIC MONTHLY, Volume 260 Number 5, November 1987

	If anyone would appreciate a copy of this very engaging article
	I'd be happy to provide one if they send a request including 
	their name and mailstop to SYZYGY::SOPKA.


re: the dinner guest problem, here's an extract from the article:

	"The classic Ramsey problem involves guests at a party.  What is 
	the minimum number of guests that need to be invited so that either
	at least three guests will know each other or at least three won't?
	... assume that the relation of knowing someone is symmetric ...
	<< an informal proof that the number is six is presented >>

	"Suppose we want not a threesome but a foursome who either all
	know each other or are strangers.  How large must the party be?
	Erdos and Graham and their fellow Ramsey theorists can prove that
	eighteen guests are necessary.  But raise the ante again, to a 
	fivesome, and no one knows how many guests are required.  The 
	answer is known to lie between forty-two and fifty-five.  That
	much has been known for two decades, and Graham suspects that the
	precise number won't be found for at least a hundred years.  The
	case of a sixsome is even more daunting, with the answer known to 
	lie between 102 and 169.  The ranges grow wider still for higher
	numbers.

	"Erdos likes to tell the story of an evil spirit that can ask you
	anything it wants.  If you answer incorrectly, it will destroy 
	humanity.  "Suppose," Erdos says, "it decides to ask you the 
	Ramsey party problem for the case of a fivesome.  Your best tactic,
	I think, is to get all the computers in the world to drop what 
	they're doing and work on the problem, the brute-force approach
	of trying all the specific cases" -- of which there are more
	than 10 to the 200th power.  "But if the spirit asks about a 
	sixsome, your best tactic would be to attack the spirit before
	it attacks you.  There are too many cases even for computers."