| Title: | Mathematics at DEC | 
| Moderator: | RUSURE::EDP | 
| Created: | Mon Feb 03 1986 | 
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 2083 | 
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    Calling all probability fans. I haven't done this type of problem
    in some time now. Surely most of you readers should know how. 
    
    Given:
    
    X is in the range 0 <= X <= 511
    
    P is in the range 0 <= P <= 8191
    
    find the probability that for a random X, P will satisfy:
    
         0 <= P <= (512-X)
    
    I got .03131
    
    dp
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| 767.1 | CLT::GILBERT | Builder | Fri Oct 09 1987 16:03 | 18 | |
|     There are 512*8192 possibilities.  Summing those that have P <= (512-X),
	(P,X) = (0,0),(0,1),(0,2),...,(0,509),(0,510),(0,511)
		(1,0),(1,1),(1,2),...,(1,509),(1,510),(1,511)
		(2,0),(2,1),(2,2),...,(2,509),(2,510)
		(3,0),(3,1),(3,2),...,(3,509)
		...
		(509,0),(509,1),(509,2),(509,3)
		(510,0),(510,1),(510,2)
		(511,0),(511,1)
		(512,0)
    That is, there are 512*(512+1)/2 + 512 possibilities that have P <= (512-X).
    So the probility is:
		(512*(512+1)/2+512) / (512*8192)
		= 515 / 16384
		= 0.0314331
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| 767.2 | "Job Related?" | SQM::HALLYB | I sell too soon | Fri Oct 09 1987 16:10 | 1 | 
| This wouldn't have anything to do with fiber optics, would it? | |||||
| 767.3 | a little higher | VINO::JMUNZER | Fri Oct 09 1987 16:16 | 31 | |
| Picture:
		P
		|
		|
	      b |
    		NNNNNNN			0 <= X < a
		NNNNNNN                 0 <= P < b
	      a YNNNNNN
		YYNNNNN                 X + P <= a:  (Y)es or (N)o
		YYYNNNN
		YYYYNNN
		YYYYYNN
		YYYYYYN
		YYYYYYY
	      0	YYYYYYY------- X
		0      a  b
                                                                 
There are (2 + 3 + 4 + ... + a-1 + a + a+1) Y's.
        (a+1) * (a+2)          a * (a+3)
That's  ------------- - 1  or  ---------  Y's
	      2                    2
There are (a * b) total Y's and N's.
                          # Y's         a * (a+3)     a+3
Desired probability = -------------  =  ---------  =  ---
                      # Y's and N's     2 * a * b     2 b
For a = 512, b = 8192, probability = .031433
John
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| 767.4 | ? | COMET::ROBERTS | Peace .XOR. Freedom ? | Fri Oct 09 1987 16:18 | 6 | 
|     
    The way I read .0 was that X and P are both reals.  .1 appears to
    assume naturals.  Will the author clarify the question, please?
    
    						/Dwayne
    
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| 767.5 | oops | VINO::JMUNZER | Fri Oct 09 1987 16:53 | 3 | |
|     .3 duplicates .1 -- right again, Peter.
    
    John
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| 767.6 | CLT::GILBERT | Builder | Mon Oct 12 1987 12:07 | 3 | |
| If we are using *real* numbers, and take the approach shown in .3, then the total area is 511*8191, and the area having 0 <= P <= (512-X) is 512*512/2. Thus, the probability is (512*256)/(511*8191) = 0.031315. | |||||
| 767.7 | Got the info I need | NAC::PICKETT | Plate o' shrimp $1.98 | Mon Oct 12 1987 13:33 | 3 | 
|     Thanks everyone! The solution I was looking for was in .1
    
    dp
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