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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

455.0. "The crossed ladders problem" by THEBUS::KOSTAS () Mon Mar 17 1986 09:19

    Hello,
    
         here is the problem:
    
    Two ladders of length  a  and  b  rest top and bottom against two
    buildings which have parallel fronts and stand on level ground.
    The ladders cross at a height of  c  above the ground.
    How far apart are the buildings?
    
    Enjoy,
    
    Kostas G.
    
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455.1CLT::GILBERTJuggler of NoterdomMon Mar 24 1986 12:411
I reduced the problem to a fourth degree polynomial in w; does that count?
455.2re. .1KEEPER::KOSTASKostas G. Gavrielidis <o.o> Mon Mar 24 1986 16:575
    Yes,
     
       I would say that this count. Any solutions?
    
       
455.3CLT::GILBERTJuggler of NoterdomMon Mar 24 1986 21:4647
The situation looks something like this:

		|\     /|	Wa + Wb = W
		| \   / |
		|  \ /  |	W� + Ya� = A�
	     Yb	!   X   | Ya	W� + Yb� = B�
		|  /|\  |
		| / | \ |	Wa/C = W/Ya  (by similar triangles)
		|/  |  \|	Wb/C = W/Yb  (by similar triangles)
		+===+===+
		 Wa   Wb

We want to solve for W, the distance between the two walls.

We note that:

	W   Wa   Wb   W    W
	- = -- + -- = -- + --
	C   C    C    Ya   Yb
or
	1/Ya + 1/Yb = 1/C

Realizing that we can't readily deal with Ya and Yb in our equations,
but that we can deal with Ya� and Yb�, we manipulate this to:

	(Ya+Yb)C = YaYb
	C�(Ya�+2YaYb+Yb�) = Ya�Yb�
	2C�YaYb = Ya�Yb� - C�(Ya�+Yb�)

Squaring both sides again, ...

	4C^4(A�-W�)(B�-W�) = ((A�-W�)(B�-W�) - C�(A�+B�-2W�))�

Notice that, by scaling, we may choose C = 1.  Then, the above is an
equation in A�, B�, and W�, and it is a fourth degree equation in W�.

	4(A�-W�)(B�-W�) = ((A�-W�)(B�-W�) - (A�+B�-2W�))�

Changing terms:

	4(A-W)(B-W) = ((A-W)(B-W) - (A+B-2W))�

Because this is symmetric with A and B, we are able to rewrite it as
an equation involving W, and two independent symmetric functions of
A and B, such as (A�+B�) and (A+B).  A simplifying substitution is
D = A+B-2, so that the W� term becomes -2DW�.  Then, the equation
can be solved by standard techniques for solving 4th-degree polynomials.