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Conference rusure::math

Title:Mathematics at DEC
Moderator:RUSURE::EDP
Created:Mon Feb 03 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2083
Total number of notes:14613

446.0. "A clepsydric problem." by CURIUM::PETERSON () Mon Mar 03 1986 10:44

    The clepsydra, or ancient water clock, was a bowl from which water was
    allowed to escape through a small hole in the bottom.  It was often
    used in Greek and Roman courts to time the speeches of lawyers,
    in order to keep them from talking too much.
    
    Derive the shape equation for a clepsydra in which the water level
    falls at a constant rate, i.e., dH/dt = -k  ?
    
    Regards,
    
    Mike
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446.1not an answer, just a stupid wisecrackAVANTI::OSMANMon Mar 03 1986 10:585
    I'd imagine the clepsydra works particularly well at limiting lawyer's
    speech time if the lawyer is forced to stand under the dripping
    water ! -):
    
    /Eric
446.2CLT::GILBERTJuggler of NoterdomTue Apr 08 1986 01:4522
Let V be the volume of water, H be the height of the water, t is time,
and a(h) is the surface area of the water, at height h above the hole.

Now, the water pressure at the hole is proportional to the height (depth?)
of the water (at the water escapes at a rate proportional to the pressure);
we want the water level to fall at a constant rate; and we have a simple
relation involving a(h).  These three equations are:

	dV         dH       dV        dH
	-- = c H;  -- = k;  -- = a(H) --;  (for some constants c and k)
	dt         dt       dt        dt

some simple algebra gives:

	a(H) = c H /k

For a cross-section, we want to know the radius (not the area) at height H
(I assume radial symmetry of this water clock):

	r(H) = sqrt(a(H)) = sqrt(cH/k)

Thus, the cross-section looks like a parabola!
446.3A non-round container?CIMAMT::HAINSWORTHMany pages make a thick book.Wed Dec 09 1987 16:1417
    Another (non-round ) container which satisfies this constraint is an 
    inverted triangle of constant thickness:
    
    	______________               ______
    	\            /              |      |
         \          /               |      |
          \        /                |      |
           \      /                 |      |
            \    /                  |      |
             \  /                   |__  __|
    
          FRONT VIEW                SIDE VIEW
                              
    
    This is much easier to construct.
    
    John