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         There are also some foods which raise the metabolism
    sufficently to be considered "negative calorie".  Certain hot 
    peppers fall into this category.
    
                                     Greg

    Greg,  Know of any other foods that raise the matabolic rate?
    Something that can be eaten in qty.
    al
    

    
    Hi,
    
    This note is a bit late considering when you posted the original. I
    actually bought a book about foods which make us lose weight and it's
    all about negative calorie foods. Apparently onions are one, I remember
    that because I was thinking it was no use for me as they always give me
    terrible heartburn. 
    
    Anyway, if you would like me to look some other foods up just reply or
    mail me and I'll write back.
    
    Bye
    
    Trevor
    
    

    I for one would love to hear more about negative calorie foods.  I
    considered buying a book one day, but the price scared me away!  If
    you'd care to input a few (I know about celery, grapefruit, and now,
    thanks to your reply, onions), but would love to know more.
    
    Thanks!
    Tina
    

    <Me too, I would like to hear more about negative calorie foods.>
    
    I had considered buying the book also but the price - wow.....
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jeanne
    

    I'm just wondering what the scientific basis of the negative calorie
    rating for these foods might be... hope they can actually deliver what
    they promise, though I'm skeptical about that.  
    
    There's one "negative calorie" substance that's readily available, of
    course.  Cold water - with no calories of it's own.  Drink a glass of
    iced water, and your body is obliged to heat it to 98.4F before
    expelling it.  This takes energy - not a lot, about 6 Calories for an
    8oz. glass.  Assuming your body isn't a 100 percent efficient energy
    converter, you might have to use more than those 6 Calories heating the
    water up - 10 perhaps (guessing here).  Then there's the actual
    metabolic processes involved ... but I'm no biologist, so can't
    speculate on how much energy is involved with those.
    
    People on a high fibre diet, who are generally advised to drink extra
    water, might benefit just a little from the iced water treatment!
    
    Brian (dieting again .. :-(!)

    It occurs to me to add a caution - please don't go drinking gallons of
    iced water, will you - that can be _very_ dangerous!
    
    Brian

   RE: <<< Note 883.6 by MARVIN::CROWLE "Speak softly, and carry a big stick" >>>
    
>>    I'm just wondering what the scientific basis of the negative calorie
>>    rating for these foods might be... hope they can actually deliver what
>>    they promise, though I'm skeptical about that.  
    
         The basis is that these foods actually DO have calories, but some
    property of these foods effectively negates the calories.  For example,
    the calories required to chew celery sufficiently to swallow it is more
    than the calories in the celery.  Another example is the hot peppers.
    The resulting temporary metabolic rate increase more than consumes the 
    amount of calories in the peppers.
    
         Simple concepts, but you certainly can not live for long off of
    the short list of "negative calorie" foods we have listed so far.
    
                                      Greg<

	I think you burn 3 calories per stalk of celery.

	So, you only need to eat 1166 stalks to lose a pound.

	Might want to move your office a little closer to the
	restroom, though.

	Karen

    Yes, this puts it into context, doesn't it?  Only tiny anounts of
    energy are involved.  Its interesting to compare the 3 negative
    calories of the celery stalk with the equivalent energy used in
    exercise.  For most people, 3 Calories would be used in taking a brisk
    walk for just 1 minute!  So - move your office a little _further_ from
    the restroom, and double your energy output  ;-)
    
    B.

    
    Hi, 
    
    Sorry it took so long to get back. I'll check out my negative calorie
    book and make a note of some of the foods and then post another reply.
    
    Bye
    
    Trevor