Conference rocks::weight_control

    Hi,
    
    You might try Herbalife's products to see if they have the desired
    effect for you.  I found that their Thermojetics products made a
    noticeable difference in my ability to lose weight.
    
    A Herbalife distributor can, of course, supply you with details and
    prices.
    
    I don't know if it'll do 14 lbs in 14 days; I was dropping 1-2 lbs a
    day at the start of the program.
    
    
    Dave

    Hello,
    
    	How did you go as you got on further down the track in the program?
    	How much did your weight loss slow down?..
    
    	Annie.
    

    You could try the Cybergenics line of products.  They have one out
    called Cybergenics:Mega Fat Loss Program.  They claim that people can
    lose as much as 20 lbs in 14 days.  It is a strict program - you can't
    have any salt, sugar or fat (of course) and caffeine is a no no as
    well.  It comes with four bottles of herbal pills that are to be
    ingested as they say in their instruction booklet.  
    
    I purchased one a while ago but I am hoping that I can do this on my
    own (I have 15-20lbs to lose).
    
    Good Luck and whatever you do don't forget to drink lots of water-it
    helps a lot.
    
    Naomi

    Hi,
    
    thanks for the comments, especially the one by mail.
    
    I've been unable to locate a source of Herbalife here - Reading,
    England.
    
    I've been trying to lose weight for years but nothing really happens,
    my weight has remained constant more or less. I did lose 10lbs in Jan.
    and Feb but it's suddenly gone back on again - I was 200lbs on Saturday
    morning last! ....words were exchanged as a result.  I don't understand
    why. Though when I did weigh myself the scales ( and me ) were on a
    carpet and I tried to say that this would have affected the result, but
    not substantially.
    
    Incidentally, I'm 5' 9'' .
    
    Anyway, I'll not be home again until Friday 7th April. I'll try and
    weigh myself again in the next few days.
    
    Thanks again, I do appreciate your comments.
    
    Dave
    

     here is one more comment for you....EXERCISE and EAT RIGHT!!  If you
    do both of them you will have no problem!!! These fad diets don't work 
    and you know it!! For people like us we have to keep workiing at it by 
    eating right and exercising!!
    
     Going strong in Ma.
     

    To "Going strong in Ma."
    
    ( Where is Ma.?)
    
    Did you have a weight problem? 
    What exactly did you do? 
    What were the changes as a result?
    
    You see, I've been doing step-aerobics for two months twice a week,
    I've cut out chocolates, puddings, cakes etc and I lost a depressing
    amount. I've actually bought a book about the training methods of our
    Royal Marine Commando's, not that I plan to emulate or join them I
    hasten to add. But I'm bound to learn something.
    
    dave
    
    

    Re: .2
    
    > How did you go as you got on further down the track in the program?
    > How much did your weight loss slow down?..
    
    I'm down to a couple of pounds per week.
    
    Dave        

    
    Do you stick to it exactly?...
    
    

    Re: .8

    > Do you stick to it exactly?...

    Nope.  But deviations are usually my deliberate choice and I take the
    result into consideration when I'm making the choice.

    For example, at one point I simply got *tired* of the taste of one of
    the preparations I was using.  I stopped using it for about a week
    while I gave myself a break from it and obtained another flavor.  My
    weight simply remained constant during that time.  Which wasn't much of
    a problem, since some of my clothing was near to falling off, anyway.

    In another case, I had opportunities to go out to about 3-4 meals in
    one week.  I simply didn't want that large an intake, so I declined
    some and enjoyed others. :-)
    
    
    Dave

    How long have you been using the products?..
    
    I have been using the products for abot 10-12 weeks and have lost 10kg
    (almost..it's been going up and down between 9 and 10 for about 2
    weeks), and I seems to have slowed down to almost a grinding halt, and
    it's wearing a bit thin...
    
    I wasn't sure if the occasional splurge would be doing me damage..
    
    I mean, How can you stick to it exactly all the time when there's so
    many nice things to eat out there!!!!
    
    I do enjoy the benefits of the program though...It's nice to meet a
    fellow HERBALIFER!!
    
    
    

	Dave,

	Why the rush ?  I doubt you put on 14 pounds in 14 days,
	so why do you want to take it off so quickly ?
	The probability of the weight remaining off once you've lost
	it is small.

	1-2 pounds a week is a much better goal.  If you took off
	10 pounds in 2 months, you were doing well.  Chances are,
	somewhere you took a turn (a week off sick, a few extra
	lunches out) that caused you to stop losing.  Also, it is
	wise to change your exercise routine after 6 weeks.  There
	are lots of notes in here that discuss the proper way to
	lose weight, and how to exercise effectively.

	My first recommendation to you would be to set a more 
	realistic goal.  Second, consider 4 aerobic aerobic workouts
	per week, plus 2 days of strength training.  The muscle 
	work will help raise your body's metabolism, making your
	aerobics workouts more effective.

	Take a look around in here for more pointers on intensity
	and duration.

	Karen

    Karen,
    
    Thanks for the advice. Life at home is not all peachy right now and one
    of the comments coming my way concerns my weight and rate of loss.
    
    I'll accept the consequences of project, though I know you are making
    sense with what you write.
    
    Anyway, through eating little and exercising a lot more than normal
    I've gone to 194lbs since Saturday last, a loss of 6lbs.
    
    Dave
    

    You might try eating pasta with veggies at lunch and/or a potato.  Make 
    that your largest meal.  Dinner have a large salad. (greens, raw veggies,
    no-fat dressing).  Breakfast have toast or something non fat, and have
    in-between snacks of fruit or raw veggies.  That way your body doesn't
    feel like its starving and halt your progress.  Nibbling during the day
    helped me lose 10 pounds.  No fatty or greasy foods; no red meats. 
    Just chicken and fish.  
    
    Anyhoo, thats just my suggestion.
    
    
    
    Donna

    I've just read my basenote. again. I weighed myself last Saturday and
    the scales said 14st 4lbs = 200lbs. The debate then followed, she's
    expecting to see the same old body next week and I'm hoping to surprise
    her and do my self-esteem some good as well.
    
    Dave

    Re: .10
    
    If you're referring to .9, I've been using the products about 4
    months.
    
    
    Dave

    Hi,
    
    
    I was introduced to the Herbal Energizer Product last year.  I was
    looking for vitamins that provided energy, colon cleanser, etc. I
    was also trying to cut down on eating junk food...sugar sugar sugar!
    Since taking the Herbal Energizer, I have energy, my eating habits have
    been reduced dramatically, and I've gone down from a size 10 to a size
    6 with little effort.  This product is virtually an ALL-IN-ONE tablet,
    reasonably priced.  It contains 11 herbs 1 mineral (Chromium
    Picolinate).  It you need more information, please let me know.
    
    
    
    Ms. Loose Weight and Feelin' Great!
    
    
    
    

    Where did you get this Herbal Energizer Product?  I am very interested.
    
    Thanks,
    MB

    
    I'd be really interested in reading the ingredients.
    
    Please do enter them here when you get a moment. 
    
    Cindy

    Hi,
    
    What is the Herbal Energizer?
    
    It is a natural way to increase your energy, attain leaner body,
    accelerate fat loss, reduce sugar cravings, and stop yo-yo dieting.
    
    The Herbal Energizer is a unique blend of specialized Western and
    Chinese Herbs with Chromium Picolinate.  This products has already
    helped thousands of people, here are some of the reported benefits
    including weight loss:
    
    	Creates a trimmer, firmer, leaner body
    	Increases Energy, Endurance and Performance
    	Reduces Stress
    	Helps curb hunger controls appetite
    	Reduce sugar cravings
    	Benefits skin hair gums
    	Helps to attain and substain ideal personal weight plus so much
        more !
    
    
    The ingredients for the Herbal Energizer includes:
    
    
    Chromium Picolinate is a form of chromium, originally developed in
    the Nutritional Lab of the U.S. Dept of Agriculture.
    
    Guarana: a rich natural source of guaranine, to help fight fatigue
    
    White Willow Bark: Reduces pain and fever, anit inflammatory, helps
    headaches, good for digestive system....
    
    Bladderwack: Contains natural iodine to promote healthy thyroid;
    stimulates circulation and eases obesity.....
    
    Goto Kolu: aids in elimination of excess fluids, fights fatigue,
    depression; has a calming effect, reduces pain and swelling....
    
    Siberian Ginseng: Anit fatigue, stress, stimulates mental and physical
    vigor, enhances immune system....
    
    Ephedra: helps increase energy and controls appetite, helps headaches,
    hayfever, stuffy nose, improve circulation....A,B-12 and E.
    
    Astragulus: Acts as a tonic to protect the immune system.  Promotes
    resistance against disease; increases metabolism, stamina, endurance
    ...combat fatigue...
    
    Licorice Root: Beneficial for bronchitis, colitis, stress, colds, 
    inflammation....Cleanses colon....B-1, B-2,B-3,B-5,B-6 B-9 and E.
    
    Ginger Root: Stimulates circulation; used for colitis, gas,
    indigestion,cleanses colon...B-3,B-5, and B-9...
    
    Bee Pollen: Help balance the endocrine system.  Effective for 
    combatting fatigue, depression, and colon disorder...
    B-comples, potassium, and C...
    
    Rehmannia Root: Used to help anemia, fatigue and promote healing of
    injured bones...
    
    Reishi Mushroom:  Was rated number one as a substance that would
    give eternal youth and longevity.  Used to help a variety of disoreders
    and to promote vitality; help in reduction of high blood pressure
    and heart disease, controls and lowers cholester, helps strenghten 
    the immune system.
    
    Hope that helps!
    
    Cheryl

    Hi,
    
    Forgot to add, you can take between 2-3 tablets a day in the morning
    (perferably with something on your stomach) and drink plenty of water.
    
    Also, I like this product, mainly because even though I have plenty of
    energy I am not so wired up that I can't take a nap if I wanted to.  
    If I desire to take a nap, I am fine, wake up with still plenty of
    energy.  And the energy is not overwhelming.  For example,  I work
    8 hrs daily (by the way I am a top performer, I retain more in my
    memory now -- recently received award in my district, highest call
    taker....etc) when I get home instead of me dreading all that I have to
    do at home, I now go home, clean, plant flowers, yard work, play with
    kits, .... and I don't have that worn out feeling.  Some days I take
    2.  It really depends on how busy my day is going to be.  I like three
    but some people are fine with 2.  I can go either way.  On Sundays, I
    am at Church 5:30 a.m. I get up at 4:00 a.m. and I am usually busy all
    day and may get to bed at 10:30.  I do take a nap when I get home.  But
    I am still refreshed, and energized.  Additionally, I use to fall
    asleep at the wheel and ....(I won't say) and since I've been taking
    this I don't feel like I am a danger on the road.  The doctors
    couldn't find anything wrong with me they told me to take more iron, 
    potassium that did nothing at all.  Also, I was looking for a colon
    cleanser, and this product includes that.  Again, Its like an
    ALL-in-One product.
    
    
    CB
    
    
    

    Hi,
    
    Who makes this product?
    
    RS

    
    Can you please post the Herbal Energizer ingredients here?
    
    Cindy

    Hi,
    
    Achiever's Unlimited is the Company that manufactures the product.
    
    CB

    Hi,
    
    Refer to note 882.19
    
    
    
    CB

    
    Re.26
    
    Oops - er, sorry.  I thought I was in the H_B_B conference.  If you
    could post them there too, that would be great.  You can use my topic
    there, or start your own.
    
    Cindy

    Hi,
    
    I just wanted to put in a note to say I have been using the
    Herbal Energizer tablets for only 3 days now and I can truly feel the
    difference.  What amazes me is that my craving for sweets, salty snacks
    and caffeine seems to have disappeared.  I thought it would be
    lessened, but I truly found myself going for fruit and juice for snacks
    instead (even when I went to the machines here at work where I was a
    daily buyer of either a candy bar, chips and a coke!)
    
    I am just a user of this product not a distributor, so I am singing its
    praises from personal experience.  I have used other weightloss
    products in years gone by.  Nothing has ever worked this fast.  No...I
    haven't dropped 15 pounds in three days or anything like that.  What I
    do like is the fact that I have more energy...not wired false energy...
    real natural energy.  
    
    I have started our son who is quite a bit over weight on the tablets.
    He mentioned to me just yesterday that he couldn't believe he didn't
    crave soda and salty snacks especially with the heat (95 degrees) and
    humidity.
    
    I am looking forward to more positive results as time goes on.
    
    Have a good rest of the day :)
    
    Lin
    

    Where can I purchase Herbal Energizer?  I've looked in health food 
    stores such as GNC.  They do not have it.  I live in Massachusetts and
    I've looked in the malls in Burlington and stores in Harvard Sq.  Any
    suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    Ann

    GREETINGS,
    
    
    If you are interested in the Herbal Energizer, call 404-476-7132
    and someone will be pleased to provide you with information.
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    CB

    Don't suppose anybody knows if it can be bought in the UK do they?
    
    Thanks
    Marie

    Sorry the  area code for G.A. has been changed to 770.  This 
    is my home number, ask for Cheryl.

    Greetings,
    
    
    I am leaving Digital Equipment Corporation, If need or interested in
    the Herbal Energizer Cheryl or Henry Bell at 770-476-7132.
    
    
    CB

    Hello again. I can't believe it's so long since I wrote the basenote so
    a progress report.
    
    I lost some weight - and we got married - then the weight came back,
    heard this before anywhere?  Same problem reappears - I'm at 200lbs.
    
    I'm also worn out. I eat very little, do some exercise, drive 180 miles 
    to work and back each day and I'm so damn tired I live on caffeine it
    seems. I take vitamin tablets etc.
    
    I have some will power; I don't remember the last time I had any
    chocolate or other sweet, or puddings or chips etc since making a
    concious decision to lose weight again - from July 1st - but there's no
    change. I want to get more energy from the food I eat mainly.
    Oh, by the way, I'm running a half marathon in September.
    
    David

    
    Herbalife has worked very well for me.  Though I'd been taking
    supplements for almost 12 years and quite seriously at that, still 
    when I switched to the Herbalife products I noticed the difference 
    right away.  I have also lost 24 pounds and it's staying off.
    
    Cindy