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Conference rocks::weight_control

Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
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Moderator:ASICS::LESLIE
Created:Mon Jul 09 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
Total number of notes:9931

871.0. "Herb tablets" by DPDMAI::HUDDLESTON (If it is to be, it's up to me) Tue Oct 25 1994 14:08

    Has anyone used the appitite suppressant pills that are sold in
    health food stores?  They seem to be all herbs.  I'm usually against
    the idea of taking pills to lose weight, but was curious if anyone had
    tried them and kept the weight off, etc.
    
    
    Donna
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871.1Wouldn't work for me...BPSOF::NEWBERGWed Oct 26 1994 14:3824
    Donna,
    
    I don't know these products, but I have an opinion (don't I always?!?!)
    My guess is that people who want to lose weight don't have a problem
    with appetite, but food itself. Most overeating is not done out of
    hunger, although raging hunger can begin the process of overeating.
    
    Remember when we were kids and they told us to eat slowly and chew our
    food a zillion times? That is supposed to allow the brain and the
    stomach to catch up to each other. Let's say that instead of a pill, we
    had several small meals throughout the day which had enough complex
    carbos to keep us from getting a raging hunger. Wouldn't that work as
    well?
    
    I know that in my own case overeating has little to do with actually
    being hungry. I'll bet that if I took one of those pills and 20 minutes
    later someone left me a steaming slice of pizza that was leftover from
    a party, I'd grab for it without considering my hunger. I couldn't
    imagine looking at it and saying "gee, I wish I had an appetite right
    now"!
    
    But, that's just me ;^)
    
    Amy
871.2Better than a pill....BPSOF::NEWBERGWed Oct 26 1994 14:579
    Right after I posted that last reply, someone was walking around with a
    tray of leftover sandwiches offering them around. Now, mind you,
    Hungarian sandwiches are usually pretty bad. These were sliced
    pepperoni on thick bread which had first been smeared with lard. Some
    days, if you're hungry enough you'll actually eat one. Thankfully,
    today was not one of those days. And the fact that I was just reading
    this conference was the best reminder!
    
    A
871.3the best things in life are freeNOVA::FINNERTYlies, damned lies, and the CAPMWed Oct 26 1994 15:1612
    
    Mind you, I've never tried herb tablets or UltraSlim-Whatever or even
    weight watchers, nor have I ever had the temptation to, but I concur
    with .-2 about eating more smaller meals with adequate complex carbos. 
    This keeps your insulin levels relatively steady and avoids the trap of
    having too much insulin in your bloodstream, followed by a rapid
    depletion of blood sugar, followed by craving more sugar, eating more
    simple sugars to get energy back, etc., etc.
    
    Eating 5 or 6 meals a day and � gallon of water (not counting coffee or
    milk or juice) will give you a remarkable degree of control over your
    appetite and over your energy levels.  And it costs no additional $. 
871.4 DPDMAI::HUDDLESTONIf it is to be, it's up to meWed Oct 26 1994 15:2011
    Thanks.  Logically in my head I know that taking a little magic pill
    won't help me in the long run.  I'm going to have to deal with the food
    on my  own.  Actually, I've already started doing that.  I was looking
    at a herb book of mine, and remembered seeing some herb pills in the
    health store a few months ago.  Is the fact that they are herbs better
    than the other junk thats on the market?  Then again, if it makes your
    appitite go away, to me thats just cutting way down on your food, which
    I can do on my own.
    
    
    dlh
871.5DPDMAI::HUDDLESTONIf it is to be, it's up to meWed Oct 26 1994 15:227
    .3 Yes, I tend to agree with you the more I think about it.  I'm
    currently drinking tons of water, and small healthy snacks throughout
    the day, plus exercising.  Its alot cheaper than $30 for a months
    supplies of pills!
    
    
    dlh
871.6Watching my WeightALFHUB::DAVISWed Nov 02 1994 15:1220
    
    
    I just happen to be reading this note today... The first of last year I
    was a whopping 185.  I was desperate to lose weight.  I had tried 
    weight watchers, slim fast, Jenny Craig, quick weight loss to name
    a few.  I would lose the weight but as soon as I discontinued the
    product I gained the weight back and more.   Since I have no will power
    I visited the GNC at the mall.  I purchased two products.  Both products
    were ALL NATURAL and I felt good while using them.  The products gave
    me the will power I needed to lose weight, they supressed my appetite
    and when I did eat it was baked fish, chicken, lots of veggies, 
    fruits, and lots of water.  I would not have been able to do this on my
    own I know I tried it.  After 20 months I am still a size 6 and weighing
    130pds.  I have a picture of myself when I was 185 posted on my
    refigerator just to remind me of how important it is to stay on track
    and watch what I eat.
    
    carol
    
      
871.7GNC STOWOA::MARCOTTEWed Nov 02 1994 19:209
    What were the pills you obtained at GNC????  I too have tried
    Jenny Craig and such...only to regain the weight and more once
    I finished.
    
    Would appreciate knowing what these suppressants were?  Were they
    the Cybernetics???
    
    Thanks,
    
871.8DPDMAI::HUDDLESTONIf it is to be, it's up to meWed Nov 02 1994 20:085
    I too am interested in what brand you obtained, and the expense.
    
    
    dlh
    
871.9please tell!!POBOX::SEIBERTRThu Nov 03 1994 14:4310
    Yes, please let us know which ones you used.  I too have tried many
    different diets only to re-gain.  I think I do better when I take
    a suppressant....its probably a mental thing.  I also set my clock back
    15 min so I feel like I slept later!!  Hey, I know in my head what
    time it really is but it still helps when I set the clock up!!  I think
    I react the same way with suppressants.  They probably arn't really
    doing anything, but I feel like they are, so I act accordingly.  
    
    Thanks,
    Renee
871.10You can try these...BPSOF::NEWBERGFri Nov 04 1994 08:2835
    Donna,
    
    I had bought a thermogenic combo at GNC last time I was in the US. It
    gives me a small energy boost and seems to be a mild appetite
    suppressent, but I bought it for the energy boost. It's called Diet
    Maxx and I think it was about $15 for 100 tablets. My weight has been
    relatively stable around my goal weight (give or take a few # when
    visitors come over ;^)) for the time I have been taking them. Of
    course, I have also been careful to make wise food choices, eat
    regularly and get regular exercise. And believe me, those things are
    not easy to do in this country, especially with this job!
    
    There's no secret to success, it's all a balance of those things that
    gets easier the longer you make it a part of your daily life. The one
    thing I learned is that energy begets energy. The more you do
    physically, the more energy you have which makes things like wise food
    choices easier. It's very easy to make bad choices when you're
    exhausted.
    
    Last month I had to give a training course to customers. I had never
    developed a course nor had I done formal training. I worked for weeks
    on this course and delivered it. The last day of the course I was so
    exhausted all I wanted to do was go home and sleep. Instead, I went
    home and put on one of my exercise videos and I felt wonderful! And for
    dinner I had a plate of vegetables to celebrate my success.
    
    The real secret is in making it your highest priority. Once you've done
    that, these or any other tablet only assist you in sticking with it.
    See your doctor, try a bottle, focus on your goals and let us know how
    it works out! We're all interested in success and would love to hear
    more ideas and healthy success stories.
    
    We're with you!
    
    Amy 
871.11The bottle of PillsODIXIE::DAVISFri Nov 04 1994 18:4716
    
    
    The pills I purchased were call Diet Now!!! again they were all
    natural.  They suppressed my appetite.  I also purchased a dieter's
    tea that I used to clense my system twice a month.  It too is all
    natural. 
    
    What I have learned that before starting a diet is is good to clean
    your system out.  Some diets offer foods that have the right chemicals
    in them to cause this to happen.  My problem was that most diets start
    off with steak, which I do not digest well at all (steak seems to stick
    to my insides).  Anyway be careful with the tea.  If you steep it to
    long you will experience bad cramping.  The pills are $12.99 a bottle.
    Let me know if you need more info.
    
    Carol
871.12thanks!POBOX::SEIBERTRFri Nov 04 1994 19:301
    
871.13What's with this steak thing?BPSOF::NEWBERGMon Nov 07 1994 16:3114
    Re. -11
    
    Carol mentioned that a lot of these system cleansing diets begin with
    steak. Does anybody have any idea why that would be? 
    
    It's just a coincidence, but I was talking to my secretary about this
    today. She wanted to slim off a couple of pounds to fit into a dress
    for the weekend. I mentioned that 4 day diet, but she declined because
    she doesn't eat red meat. Would anyone have any idea why the red meat
    is in this diet and would it work with only white meat or fish? Also, I
    tossed out my copy of it about 4 years ago and I couldn't remember past
    the first two days.
    
    Amy 
871.15WOTVAX::DAVIESJThu Dec 08 1994 16:0811
I have used appetite surppressents but they were not herbal.
However, they did work and I lost a few stone.  They too
gave you an energy boost - sometimes too much!!

As far as being able to eat whilst on them - no way.  It
is impossible you see food and feel sick.  There are after
affects with these though.  Sometimes they can make you bad
tempered and on edge alot of the time.

Has anyone tried hypnotherpy??