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| 779.1 | | INGOT::ROBERTS | | Mon Jan 11 1993 14:24 | 3 |
| Yes, I can understand that this is annoying. After all, as a woman, I
have to put up with many things that are geared towards men....
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| 779.2 | biased? The program, a little; you, a little more? | UHUH::D_CARROLL | a woman full of fire | Mon Jan 11 1993 17:25 | 12 |
| Dress shopping? Seems odd they didn't just say "clothes shopping",
which is gender neutral. yes, I would find that annoying. In fact, a
a woman, I am faced with this stuff ALL THE TIME and find it annoying.
bring it to their attention.
But I'm confused - what is "female" about cappucino? Don't men drink
coffee? Don't women "go for a brew"?
Automotive shopping is a "man's thing"? Guess I'll have to remember to
ask my father to go pick up those spark plugs I need for me.
D!
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| 779.3 | Point Taken... | STRATA::BERNIER | | Mon Jan 11 1993 18:25 | 22 |
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Yes, I guess I am......a little. I understand where you are
coming from, my apologies. But you get my drift. When *I* go
out with my friends, we have never gone for cappucino unless
they have started putting it in 16oz. brown bottles and
dramatically altered the taste. It seems to me that the are
similar amounts of overweight men as well as women, yet mostly
women attend weight control classes. Any ideas on why that is??
I wonder what the ratio really is.......
Also, clothes shopping is something *men* generally don't do as
a group activity. Dress shopping is something *most* men don't
do (at least for themselves!).
Well, back to my dog house... ;-)
/ab
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| 779.4 | sexism - yes! | UHUH::D_CARROLL | a woman full of fire | Mon Jan 11 1993 21:25 | 6 |
| I think more women are in weight loss programs because I think there is
more societal pressure on women to be thin (read: attractive) than men.
And because, for whatever reason, women are more prone to eating
disorders.
D!
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| 779.5 | Good point... | ESKIMO::BERNIER | | Tue Jan 12 1993 13:22 | 9 |
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Good point...but I think everyone is prone to eating disorders.
I think that men generally shy away from that type of thing
because the majority of members are female, and they (I) feel
out of place. After a few meetings I felt comfortable.
/ab
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| 779.6 | Now is the time for good men and women... | POCUS::FEINMAN | | Tue Jan 12 1993 21:40 | 19 |
| Wow, I see both sides of this unfortunate issue...
On the one hand, my husband has brought the same complaint to my
attention. He and I joined WW together and everything is geared toward
the female perspective and female eating program, he constantly has to
compensate for the different exchanges allowed for men. The new WW
commercials are particularly gender-specific (be a new woman??), what
if you are happy as a MAN?
On the other hand, I agree that the reason there are so many more women
in these groups is that society places much more pressure on us to
conform to norms of beauty, which seems to mean thin. Men only have to
deal with being "successful", what a drag...when will we allow each
other (and ourselves) to just BE?
In any case, good luck with the struggle, it is truly an androgynous
one.
Sylvia
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| 779.7 | | HDLITE::ZARLENGA | Michael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEG | Wed Jan 13 1993 21:12 | 3 |
| Since about 80% of the people who join WW are women, WW caters to them.
That's what I would do, if I were running WW, too.
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| 779.8 | yes.. | LUDWIG::BERNIER | | Thu Jan 14 1993 13:05 | 5 |
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Yes, it *is* a business..........
/ab
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| 779.9 | | CNTROL::JENNISON | Jesus, the Gift that keeps on giving! | Thu Jan 14 1993 14:02 | 6 |
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Then again, perhaps they'd bring in more men if they were
less biased (assuming they are, based on the input here)...
Karen
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| 779.10 | FMO Meetings | NEWAGE::VENTURA | Wherever you go, there you are! | Thu Jan 21 1993 21:38 | 6 |
| Perhaps a little late, but here in Minneapolis WW has "FMO" meetings (For
Men Only). It is run by a female leader who also handles regular
(mostly women) meetings. You may want to suggest this to one of your
local leaders.
Dave (at goal, -90 lbs)
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| 779.11 | MO Mass. | AKOCOA::THORP | | Mon Jan 25 1993 21:11 | 1 |
| There is a Men Only in Quincy, Ma, with a male leader.
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