Conference rocks::weight_control

    Okay, sounds good.  Where do we find them?
    
    Janet
    :-)
    

	I found the crackers in Stop and Shop, alongside the regular
    Premium Crackers.

-mike z

    I also discovered them in Shaw's right along side of the other Premium
    saltines.  I like them because they are harder and crunchier, made with
    wheat flour as a first ingredient and have no fat or salt so they don't
    "call me" when I've had my alotted amount.  Best part is they are only
    about 6 calories per cracker so I figure 12 crackers = 1 grain/bread.
                                                              

    of course, this is old news by now (but I'd like to keep this topic
    going!), but Kraft has just come out with a fat free line of mayo,
    salad dressings.  I have also heard that another company is coming
    out with a 'fat free' oil for frying!
    
    mary
    

    Latta margarine spread.
    
    40 cals/Tbsp.
    
    Tastes pretty good, texture is good, and it melts right.

    Only 40 cals/Tbs?  Really?  What's it made of?  how many grams of fat??
    
    D!

    Oops, it's 40% vegetable oil spread, and 50 cals/Tbsp.

    5.6g fat/Tbsp - 98% of calories from fat - no cholesteerol
    and 65mg sodium per Tbsp.

    Ingredients: water, vegetable oil blend, skim milk, gelatin, salt,
    vegetable mono and diglycerides and soy lecithin, potassium sorbate
    and calcium disodium EDTA added as preservatives, artificaially
    flavored, vitamin A palmitate added, colored with beta carotene.

    Well, I see my local Stop and Shop is carrying Healthy Choice 92%
    lean ground beef.

    I can't really recommend it, though, because it was 2.99/lb, and
    the 90% lean ground sirloin was $2.19/lb.  Also, I didn't like the
    package it came in - made it very hard to get a look at the meat.

    It looks to be similiar to McDonald's new beef mixture, with some
    carrageen to make up for moisture lost from the missing fat.

    What is carrageen?

    Carrageen is a kind of seaweed.

    Well, I had to make some more chili so I bought a package of the
    ground beef.

    Turns out it's 96% fat free.  Package says "beef stock, hydrolyzed
    oat flour and salt" have been added.  Also says this beef has only
    28% of all calories from fat, 7% from saturated fat.  WOW.  This is
    about as lean as you can get.

    BUT ... it cooks very differently from regular beef - very fast, and
    with little sizzling noise.  And it's fairly loose - I wouldn't try
    to make patties unless I had a real patty press - pressing by hand
    would fall to pieces.

    And it is very tasty meat.  Must be the beef stock they add.

    At 2.99/lb, it's not that cheap, but it certainly is good.

    Cook it slowly and watch it because it can overcook quickly.

    Yeah, very lean beef is extremely difficult to cook in the usual way,
    no fat means that you have to add some, on occasion! Spag Bolog is
    rather "interesting" with very lean beef. You have to add more
    herbs/spices than with fatter beef for the same effect.
    
    Loadsa garlic!
    
    	- andy

    Kraft Free, fat-free mayonnaise.

    12 calories/Tbsp, instead of 100 for regular mayonnaise.

    Very good taste, not at all like Miracle Whip Salad Dressing.

For those avoiding sugar, be forewarned that Kraft Free replaces the
fat with sugar, as is often the case with no- and low-fat commercial
products.  (Such as the new fat-free Sour Cream substitute.)

D!

    The fat is replaced with cellulose gel.
    
    There are 12 calories per tablespoon, mayonnaise has 100, it's
    nearly 100% fat.  If Kraft replaced the fat with sugar, it would
    have 48 calories per Tbsp, not 12.

    I'm speaking generally, Mike...I wasn't implying that there was a one
    to one correspondence.  Check the label again, the first or second (I
    don't remember which) ingredient is sugar.
    
    D!

    I checked the labels of Kraft and Cain's fat-free mayonnaise and
    they both have 2-3 grams of carbohydrates per Tbsp.
    
    That's about 20% sugar by volume.
    
    Regular mayonnaise is 100% fat.

	I liked the fat free mayonaise the first time I used it.

	I didn't use it for a month or so, then when I needed it
	to add to a sauce, it was congealed like jello.  Anyone else
	find this ?  Do I just need to use it faster ???

	Karen

gee, I've had some jars of Fat Free in the refer for months & its just like
the day I opened it, perhaps your lid wasn't on tight?

mary

	Thanks for the input Mary... the lid seemed tight enough, but
	who knows now ?

	Thought of another "low-fat" brand name food - Hormel Light
	and Lean Hot Dogs - 28% fat, which as hot dogs go isn't bad.

	I'm not a big "dog" eater, but my husband likes them occaisionally,
	so I compromise with these.

	(Read labels carefully, most of the other "light" hot dogs are
	at least 50% fat)

	Karen

You can do even better with part or all turkey or chicken hot-dogs.
I just had hot-dogs today - don't remember what the brand was, but
they were part beef and part turkey and were 90% fat free, I believe.
28% fat is a LOT!!!!  I wouldn't touch anything that high in 
fat.  (Well, not *nothing*, but it had better be better than hot
dogs to indulge that way. :-)

D!

    
    I always thought that when they say 90% fat free that they are NOT
    talking about % of calories from fat.  28% of the calories of a hot dog
    from fat would be very good.  28% of a hot dog being fat would be
    high...  Depends which number people are talking about.
    
    AMy
    

    Yeah, 10% fat refers to how much of it is fat by weight.  Since fat is
    higher in calories by weight than protein or carbohydrates, a small
    change in % fat means a large change in % calories from fat.
    
    28% calories from fat would be fine; but that's not what the numbers
    refer to.
    
    I saw an article in consumer reports recently that explained that 4%
    milk gets 35% of it's calories from fat.
    
    Diana

    Calorie figures are also cited as a percentage of total calories.
    
    The easiest way to decide how much fat it has is to multiply the
    grams of fat by 9, then compairng that to the total # of calories.

    I bought Hood fat free cottage cheese tonight.
    
    90 calories per 1/2 cup, instead of 140.
    
    Wasn't nearly as creamy and tasty as the standard 4% milkfat
    cottage cheese, but it was still pretty darn good.

	Sorry Diana for being unclear, but I meant 28% of the
	calories come from fat.

	I never go by, nor refer to foods, in terms of percent
	fat by weight.  It's meaningless.  By the way, these hot
	dogs fare better than most of the turkey or chicken dogs...

	Karen

    Can someone explain this to me?
    Shedd's spread, per tablespoon, contains 60 calories and 7 grams of
    fat.  7 X 9 = 63 calories.  How can 63 of the 60 calories be fat?
    That's over 100% fat?  Maybe I'm misunderstanding that multiply by 7
    for total fat calories formula?
    Sarah

    How can 63 of the 60 calories be fat?
    That's over 100% fat?

Sounds like a round-off error to me.  The 7 cal/gram, as well as the 9 grams
and the 60 calories are all rounded off.  When multiplying rounded numbers,
the error is compounded...3 calories deviation seems reasonable.

Diana

    The problem is that fats are 8-10 caloris per gram, depending on
    the fat.  It's pretty easy to just say 9 per gram.
    
    Plus, when you see a portion and it says, for example 1gm fat
    and there are 10 servings per package, you may get between 5 and
    15 grams of fat per package, because of round-off when figuring
    the # of grams/serving (could be .5 to 1.5 and still be marked
    as 1gm).

Also, I've heard that the calories per portion are usually only accurate to +/- 
20%.  My source on this was the dietician my program brought in for nutrition
& label reading lectures.

    Stonyfield Farms makes a bunch of flavored fat-free yogurts which are 
    *very* (MMM!) good.  They are 155-165 calories per cup, which is more
    than Dannon Lites or Weight Watchers which are sweetened with Nutrasweet 
    (100 Cal) but less than the Columbo ones which are sweetened with sugar 
    (190 Cal).  They taste better than both.
    
    The Stonyfield yogurts are sweetened naturally with fruit and fruit
    juices and in some cases a little honey.  They are less sweet than the
    Columbo or Dannon ones, but still quite sweet even for people who hate
    the tartness of plain yogurt.
    
    They've got banana-strawberry, mixed berry, black cherry,
    apricot-mango, lemon, cappucino and french vanilla (great with
    bananas!)
    
    Unfortunately they are more expensive than Dannon or Columbo, usually
    $.80-.90, instead of $.50-80.  However, this week I found them on sale
    at Bread and Circus for $.59 a carton! Yay!
    
    I also recommend the Stonyfield Farms plain non-fat yogurt - I find the
    flavor better than Hood, Columbo or Dannon.
    
    Diana

    Also...Sargento Preferred Lite pre-sliced or shredded Mozarella cheese
    is very good.  60 calories per 1 oz serving (as opposed to 80 cal for
    regular part-skim mozarella), and melts and tastes just like regular 
    mozarella, as far as I can tell.  The Swiss cheese (30 cal/oz) is good
    too.
    
    Diana

    Hunt's Chunky Style spaghetti sauce.
    
    Less than 1g of fat per 4oz.
    
    A bit on the sweet side (sugar is the second ingredient), but
    definitely the best low-fat spaghetti sauce I've ever tried,
    including my own recipe.

I see that Kraft has come out with a fat free Tarter sauce.... haven't
tried it yet...

mary

    I do *not* recommend the fat-free mozarella on the market.  I don't
    remember the brand, but I imagine they are all the same.  It had little
    flavor (not that regular mozarella has a lot) but what is really
    missing is that stringy, gooey mozarella feel.  This stuff doesn't
    melt, it just gets warm and sits there, looking shredded.  I made
    eggplant parm. with it and was disappointed...it was quite
    unsatisfying.
    
    Sure, the stuff may be only 40 calories an ounce, but for 60 cal/oz you
    can get Sargento Lite mozarella which acts and tastes like real
    mozarella.
    
    D!

Can someone tell what I can use in place of evaporated milk & condensed milk
that is low in fat, cholestrol & ofcourse calories?  Can some form of low fat
milk/yogurt be used?

Thanks
Geetha

    You can by Skimmed Evaportated Milk I think Bordon has one.
    
    Sasha

    There is skim evaporated milk.
    
    Condensed milk, on the other hand, is sweetened.  The whole point is
    the sweetness.  If you want less fat, use evaporated skim milk and
    sugar (a lot of sugar.)  However, the difference in fat between whole
    and skim milk doesn't make as much difference as all the sugar in it.
    
    Condensed (sweetened) milk is generally used for cooking sweet stuff -
    seems kinda pointless to make lo-fat, lo-cal fudge.  What are you
    trying to do with it?
    
    Diana

Re: -1


Hi Diana,

I am trying to make Mango Ice Cream, which is a combination of Mango Pulp (its
like OJ Concnetrate), evaporated & condensed milk and 10 tbs. sugar blended and
frozen for about 8 to 10 hours.  As you can see this does not have much fat
other than what comes from the milk & sugar.  

Thanks for the info.  I'll try to find skimmed evaporated milk.

Geetha

Sounds good - why don't you post the recipe?  (I would use Equal 
rather than sugar...)  Where do you get mango pulp?

There is no fat in sugar, and milk, even whole milk, is relatively
low in fat compared to, say, cream.

Diana

    Regular milk is only 3% fat by weight.
    
    BUT!!!!  Don't let that mislead you into thinking it's low-fat.
                                 
    Since milk is mostly 0 calorie water, 3% fat milk gets a whopping
    45% of its calories from fat.

You could use non-fat plain yogurt, with a bit of vanilla extract and extra 
sweetener.  If you want it creamier, drain the yogurt thru cheesecloth first
for 8-24 hours (recipies call this "yogurt cheese").

RE:625.39

Diana,


Here is the receipe for mango ice cream.  

	1 can of Mango Pulp (you can get this in any Indian Grocery stores)
	1 can of evaporated milk (12 to 14 oz.)
	1 can of condensed milk (12 to 14 oz)
	10 tbs. Sugar

Blend all this together and freeze for 8 to 10 hours. My aunt makes this very
often and it tastes very good and kids like it too.

Geetha

    sounds good!
    
    re: yogurt cheese...another tip is that use can use coffee filters
    rather than cheese cloth. I do this because I always forget to buy
    cheese cloth.  Draining a cup of yogurt for a few hours yields
    something the consistency of sour cream, and draining it over night
    something just a little softer than whipped cream cheese.
    
    D!

	Has anyone tried the new Kellogg's "low-fat" granola ?

	I haven't seen a box yet, so I'm taking their word that
	is indeed low-fat...

	karen

    I've tried it.  It's Ok, nothing special.  I'm not a big granola fan.

    RE: mango ice cream
    
    I have made mango ice cream with only skimmed evaporated milk and sugar
    added to level of sweetness desired. THe mango pulp also has some sugar
    in it. If the moisture content is too much in the ice cream then adding
    some skim milk powder improves the texture. We did not like the texture
    of the ice cream with condensed milk - too rich and heavy. Without the
    condensed milk the ice cream is lighter in taste and texture.
    
    Shaila

    RE: Yogurt Cheese
    
    This is an excellent icing for Carrott Cake or a sauce for Fruit Pizza.
    
    Sasha

    Healthy Choice franks.
    
    50 calories per hot dog, 1g fat.
    
    The price is higher ($1 more than regular franks), but the taste
    is just fine.  These are 97% fat free, turkey franks are 80% fat
    free.

    
    	What's the price, Mike ?  I pay $2.99 max for 10 Hormel light
    	and lean franks (45 c, 1g fat).
    
    	Might be more economical than the Healthy Choice (a brand of foods
    	which I find outrageously pricy).
    
    	Karen
    

    Same price, $2.99 for 10.
    
    I've never seen Hormel Lights ... are they new?

    I tried Hormel lights about (I think) 4 or 5 months ago.  They were
    pretty good.  Not as good as "real" hot-dogs, but not bad for the fat
    content.  Besides, what's the diff when you top it off with a ton-o
    suakraut and mustard, as I do?  :-)
    
    D!

    
    	They came out within the last year
    
    karen
    

    I tried Hunts Light spaghetti sauce and it's good.
    
    Much better (tastier) than Healthy Choice.

    Land O' Lakes no fat sour cream.
    
    Tastes pretty good and it's fat free.
    
    Excellent on baked potatoes.

    QUAKER CARMEL RICE CAKES.  50 CALORIES PER CAKE AND NO FAT.  THEY ARE
    GREAT!!!!
    
    SASHA

    Columbo Yogurt has (finally) come out with an equivalent to Dannon
    Light.  Columbo Slender Spoonfuls is non-fat, sugar-free (Nutrasweet
    sweetened) and 100 calories per cup.  It comes in similar flavors to
    Dannon light - peach, strawberry, raspberry, vanilla, etc.  I've only
    tried one so far, peach, and it was good, although I think I still
    prefer the Dannon's.  FYI.
    
    Also, I noticed Dannon now makes sugar-free frozen yogurt (100 cal per
    1/2 c serving, no fat.) Has anyone tried it?
    
    And while on the subject of frozen yogurt...I've discovered a wonderful
    new substance, Frace (pronounced "frah-say", according to the
    literature.)  It is made primarily from fruit juice and "whey protein
    concentrate fat substitute", but it has the taste and texture of
    premium soft-serve frozen yogurt.  It has 10-12 calories per ounce 
    (depending on flavor), and no fat.
    
    The only place I know that sells it is The Yogurt Bar on Highland Ave
    in Somerville (Davis Sq).  They change flavors every week...I've tried
    butterscotch, chocolate macadamia, white chocolate cheesecake, almond,
    peanut butter chocolate, cherry cordial, raspberry and others.  All
    were good, thogh I think the butterscotch was my favorite.
    
    I also just discovered that TCBY has sugar-free/96% fat free hot fudge,
    and sugar-free "whipped cream" (I doubt it's really cream).  I had the
    first sunday I've had in over a year.  TO DIE FOR! :-)
    
    D!

	Do you know the nutritional breakdown of the hot fudge (cal, gms of
	fat ) ?  We had dinner with friends last night and they mentioned
	the fudge, but said that the clerk didn't have any idea about
	the calories or grams of fat.

	Thanks!
	Karen

    No idea.  But they don't put much hot fudge on...maybe a couple of
    Tablespoons.  which means if it is really 4% fat then it couldn't be
    more than a couple of grams.
    
    I'm more curious about the "whipped cream" myself...
    
    Diana

    Actually, this is a DISrecommendation...
    
    I tried non-fat cream cheese (Alpine Lace) last week and it was really
    awful.  It had a very plastic-like consistency and taste.  Ick.  No one
    else liked it either.  I'll stick to the low fat, which I like fine.
    
    Diana

    Alpine Lace fat-free cheese is mediocre.
    
    Sargento makes a good low-fat mozarella, with only 3g of fat per ounce.
    (standard mozarella has 8g/oz).

    
    	The Philadelphia fat-free Cream cheese is bearable.  Actually, after
    	a few tries, I got used to it.  It won't fool anyone if you
    	tried a switch on them, though...
                                  
    	Karen
    	

    >Sargento makes a good low-fat mozarella
    
    Also a good low-fat Swiss.
    
    -----
    
    What favorite low-fat or non-fat dressings to people use?  My favorites are
    the Walden Blue Cheese, Light Hearted Cucumber-Dill, Weight Watchers
    Caeser (non-fat), and Maple Grove (Maple Farm, maybe) Parmseson Pesto
    and Maple Dijon.
    
    Pritikin Sweet-n-Spicy dressing isn't very good as dressing but makes
    great non-fat no-sugar-added BBQ sauce.
    
    -----
    
    Also, I can't remember if anyone has mentioned it (or even me) but the
    Hunt's Light Spaghetti Sauce is great - and no added fat, which makes
    it even better than Healthy Choice, etc.  Only 40 cal/half cup.  (Same
    as plain tomato sauce.)  I find it much tastier than the other
    "healthy" spaghetti sauces...and much cheaper, too!
    
    Diana

    I like the Walden Farms Italien dressing with sun-dried tomatoes.
    No fat and only 9 calories per tablespoon. 
    
    Marcie                                   

    Yes, Diana, Hunt's Light _is_ good (I recommended it somewhere in here
    when discussing low cost, low fat meals).  I also like Hunt's Traditional
    and Classico Olives and Mushrooms (both with 2gm fat per 4 oz) - I cut
    them with about 50% tomato sauce - that stretches them and cuts the fat
    to about 1gm per 4oz, about as low as Hunt's Light).
    
    If you ask me, the Healthy Choice has no flavor at all.
    
    I've also tried Campbell's low fat spaghetti sauce.  It was Ok, but I
    prefer the three I listed in the 1st paragraph.

    
    
    	My mother and I have been using Healthy Choice spaghitti sause for
    about 6 months now and we love it.  I think it has great taste and we
    use it for every pasta dish and for home-made pizza.  I guess it all
    depends on your particular likings.
    	We have also tried their lunch meats and found them to be ok.  Deli
    meats will always be my favorite.
    
    Virginia
    

    I tried Ragu's entry into the low fat spaghetti sauce market.
    
    It's not bad.  I like Hunts Light better.  Especially the Flavored
    with Meat and Traditional (can take or leave Flavored with Mushrooms).

    Orville Reddenbacher's Smart Pop.
    
    80% less fat (only 1 gm per serving, 4.5 grams per package) than regular
    microwave popcorns.
    
    Pops up in the microwave (perfect for mid-afternoon snack at work) in
    the same time as standard microwave popcorn, and it tastes very good.
    I tried it today and liked it so much I went back and bought 2 more
    boxes so I can keep some at work.

How much popcorn in a bag?  (ie: how many ounces)

I find that most of the popcorn bags I have found have more popcorn
than I want.  I miss my Nutrisystem popcorn which popped about
3 cups.  (1.5 oz of popcorn.)

D!

    It's a regular sized bag, 4.5 cups, I think.

    
    
     I second the taste of SMART-POP by Orville Redenbacher's
    
    It's Butter Flavor is excellant 
    
    it has 4 2/3 cups per bag @ 78 calories per bag and 1% fat
    
    this compared to the other light brands offering 3-4% fat.
    
                                          

    
    
    
    I tried the new Kraft "FAT-FREE" cheese slices, I tried both the 
    individually wrapped 'orange' cheese and the packaged 'white' slices
    and found them to be very good, especially when melted on a tuna-melt
    
    
    Bill

    .70 I'm not sure it's 78 Calories a bag, it might be more like 78 Cal a
    serving an there are probably 2.5 servings to a bag.  You might want to
    double check.  I also agree it is good.

    Here's the nutritional information per BAG of Smart-Pop, as consumed:
    
    Calories       235
    Protein          9g
    Carbohydrates   51g
    Fat              4g  (approx 15% of calories from fat)
    
    And, Diana, each bag has 4 2/3 servings, each serving in 3 cups popped.

	FYI, I picked some Smart-Pop up at Stop and Shop on Friday for
	$1.99, and got one free with an in-store coupon.  I don't know
	if it's still on sale this week. 

	Karen

	Thanks for the tip w.r.t. Smart Pop!  Boy, I can "graze" on a bag
	all afternoon for only 235 calories!  Very tasty, too!

	On another note, I've tried some of the "Healthy Choice" soups
	lately.  I have to say, I'm not impressed.  I find them very
	flavorless, and have to add pepper and some salt to even make
	them slightly interesting.  I gave one to my husband for lunch
	one day, and he wouldn't even eat it!

	I do, however, like Campbell's Healthy Request Soups.  The
	Hearty Chicken Vegetable and the Hearty Vegetable Beef are
	current favorites.  Granted, there is probably more sodium in
	the Campbells than in the Healthy Choice, but I'm not particularly
	concerned about sodium intake.

	I can usually get the Campbell's for $.99 a can at Shaw's.

	Lastly, I heard Progresso is going to start putting nutritional
	labels on their soup.  

	Karen

    I bought Pop-Secret By Request tonight.
    
    It advertises "tastes better than Orville Reddenabcher Smart-Pop!" on
    the box.
    
    I tried it.  It's Ok.  I like Smart-Pop better.
    
    It's almost identical to Smart-Pop, nutritionally, except there are
    only 4 servings, 3 cups each.

    
    
    I did see that Shaw's had a "LIGHT" popcorn and it was equal or better 
    than most of the other lights in the nutritional levels. It was also
    about a $1.00 cheaper. anyone wanna give it a try and let us know?
    
    BS

    Well, the previously mention Spart-Pop now comes in *snack size* bags,
    which is great for me!  The bag has 2 2/3 servings, each serving has 1
    gram of fat and 50 cal as consumed (2 g and 60 cal as packaged.) So
    the whole bag has about 130-140 calories, which fits right in to my
    food plan as 2 Breads.  
    
    Tastes great, but one caution - if you are used to making regular size
    bags, be sure to cut down the time on these to avoiding scorching the
    popcorn.  They say 2-4.5 minutes, but I stuck it in one of the
    commercial type microwaves here at ZK and it started to burn at 1:50.
    
    D!

    Soup Starter ... these are really good, and low in fat if you prepare
    the meat properly.
    
    For meat and chicken, trim all fat before browning, brown in non-stick
    cookware (or skip browning the meats - that's what I did tonight and
    it came out fine ... and it was faster and less messy).
    
    Only drawback is you have to let the soups simmer for about an hour.

    I have used Soup Starter in the crockpot.  Just put it on low go to
    work dinner is served when you walk in the door.
    
    Sasha

    This isn't a particular brand but I thought I would tell people that
    some kinds of bottled or canned GRAVY isn't too bad for you!  I mean,
    it isn't *great*, but it isn't like homemade gravy which is almost all
    fat.  I bought one of the canned brands (Franco-American, perhaps) of
    Chicken Gravy and it has 1 g fat per 2 oz serving (30 calories -
    therefore less than 30% from fat.)
    
    I cooked up some chicken, mixed it with cooked rice and gravy and it
    made a tasty, low-fat easy-to-prepare lunch.
    
    D!
    
    PS: Those on low-salt diets or with sensitivity to MSG, beware!  These
    gravies are just loaded with all sorts of baddies.

    Campbell's low fat ramen noodle soup.
    
    This has 2 serving per pkg, 1 gm fat per serving.  It says 80% lower in
    fat, so the old-style must have approx 10gm fat per pkg, and, assuming
    carbohydrate and protein amounts are unchanged, old-style ramen noodle
    soup gets 90 of its 370 calories, or 24%, from fat.  The low fat Ramen
    gets 6% of its calories from fat.

	I tried Ultra Slim Fast cheese curls yesterday.

	They're 110 calories per ounce, 3 grams of fat, 24.5% fat from 
	calories.

	They're very good, especially for those times when you feel you've
	just got to eat something "junky".

	(Price is not too bad either, $1.19 for a 4 oz bag at Walgreens)

    Rice Bites...they are a little like the corn puffs junk food of my
    youth, but they are fat free.  They are light and puffy and you get
    about a cup for 150 calories and they come in flavors like garlic and
    herb, apple cinammon, and cheese.  I like them better than the minirice
    cakes because they are lighter and melt in your mouth.
    
    I recently bought, but haven't yet tried, "Guiltless" Corn Chips, which
    are baked and fat free.
    
    D!

    
    The "Guiltless" tortilla chips are *WAAAAY* tastier than the ordinary
    run-of-the-mill tortilla chips - I LOVE 'em.
    
    Also try the "guiltless" black bean and pinto bean dips - another
    fat-free yummy.
    
    
    						/Rita
    

    I agree I tried "Guiltless" chips last week and I'm addicted!!!!!
    
    Sasha

	I  haven't seen these anywhere - any ideas where I can find
	them in Central Massachusetts ?  

	Perhaps my salsa craving will be satisfied once and for all... NOT!

	

	On another note, this month's SHAPE Magazine rated some fat-free
	and light brand name foods.  The only recommended buys were the
	frozen desserts (ice creams and yogurts) and snack foods (Snack Well's,
	Entenmann's fat free).  There was a positive response to "Light"
	cream cheese.

	I wouldn't buy the magazine for just this article, unless you want
	to know the best Frozen Yogurt.

	Karen

    Karen,
    
    In Atlanta I found Guiltless Gourmet in the Healthfood Section, and not
    with the other chips.  Perhaps it is the same way up north.
    
    Another idea to cure that salsa craving (I am crazy about salsa) toast
    corn tortillas and put chilli powder on top or make an egg white
    omlette with sauted vegatables (suauted in cooking wine and spices) and
    pour salsa on top yummy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Sasha
    
    

    I thought the Guiltless Gourmet corn chips were great...
    
    If you have more time, or can't find Guiltless where you are, just cut
    up some regular corn tortillas and bake in the oven at 350 until they
    are crispy and lightly browned (about 5-10 minutes).
    
    Also, call me a heathen (the people in COOKS would have a heart attack)
    but I actually *like* Velveeta.  It melts really well, and if you mix
    it with salsa and a little milk or beer and nuke it, it makes a GREAT
    dip.  And now they have "Light Velveeta" with only 2 grams of fat and
    70 calories per 1 ounce serving (that's about 25% calories from fat).
    
    D!

    How is the low fat velveeta?
    
    So far, i'm totally nonmplussed by low-fat cheeses.
    
    You have to be very careful with them... too much heat, they burn,
    when they cool, they resemble plastic.  yuk.
    
    It's at the point where I put the low-fat cheese on my pizza after
    it's cooked, to avoid melting it.

    
    
    RE: a couple back
    
    
     NON-FAT Bean dips?  where da ya get it! I love the stuff, but it seems
    the stuff I love is made with beans and lard (yuck! but tasty!)
    
    Bill

    re. 90
    
    The only non-fat cheese that I remember that had any flavor was the
    Alpine Lace. The only problem with it was when it was melted it would
    stick to my teeth! I had to make sure it wasn't in anything open-face,
    like pizza, but had to be hidden between two slices of something that
    could scrape the cheese off my teeth (sounds gross, I know). It was good, 
    though, and relatively satisfying. I wish I could get some here. The
    cheese over here has no flavor and is full of fat. Not worth it even if
    it doesn't stick to your teeth.

	Mike,

	The article I mentioned in SHAPE magazine rated all the cheeses
	as D's or F's, and a "no" in the "would buy again" column.

	Appreciated your comments on the low fat cheeses - I tried to
	sneak some onto a pizza I made one Sunday afternoon for my
	visiting in-laws, and the whole layer of cheese bubbled up like
	a parachute, burned, then fall back onto the pizza dough.  I thought
	it had to do with my not having any toppings on the pizza (I always
	have them when it's just my husband and I), though I did slightly
	suspect the cheese.

	Karen

    I absoultely agree on the cheeses, I've slowly (ever so slowly) have
    become accustomed to the Kraft No-fat slices.  I've tried all of them
    and they all taste the same preety much the same.  Has anyone noticed how 
    salty and rich the ones we _used_ to live for are now?
    
    On the plus side, when we went grocery shopping Saturday, my *husband*
    said "don't forget the Kraft", I darn near fell over (but, he still
    won't let me buy that margarine that doesn't melt :}.  
    
    Pauline
    

    Of all the low-fat cheeses I have tried, Velveeta Light most resembles
    it's full-fat version.  That might be because regular Velveeta is
    relatively low in fat to begin with, as cheese goes.  It melts just
    like Velveeta - which is to say, turns to gooey liquid, great for a
    sauce or grilled cheese sandwich, wouldn't work for pizza.
    
    Here's my thoughts on the low-fat cheese I have tried, and I use it a
    LOT:
    
    Part skim mozarella, any brand, 80 cal/ounce = pretty good, melts well,
    not as creamy/stringy as whole mozarella but doesn't stick to your
    teeth
    
    Sargento reduce fat part skim mozarella, 60 cal/ounce = doesn't melt as
    well as part skim, not worth the reduction in fat, more expensive, I
    don't use it
    
    Sargento Light Swiss/Alpine Lace Swiss, 80 cal/ounch = tastes like
    swiss on sandwiches and other non-melting applications.  Melts okay,
    not great
    
    Weight Watchers/Cabot/Kraft Light Naturals chedder, 80-90 cal/ounce =
    tastes like chedder (Cabot is best, IMO), doesn't melt too well, but then,
    neither does regular chedder - great on tacos, burritos, etc, use this
    ALL the time
    
    WW/Kraft Light Nat Monterey Jack - 70-80 cal/ounce = tastes okay except
    I don't like Jack cheese much anyway, melts better than the chedder,
    doesn't stick to your teeth
    
    WW/Borden/Kraft Light American Slices - 70-80 cal/ounce (50 cal/slice) =
    tastes okay, doesn't melt too well (though I still like it in grilled
    cheese), kind of dry and sticky
    
    WW/Kraft Light Swiss Slices , 80 cal/oz = melts better than American,
    doesn't taste much like Swiss, but still pretty good
    
    WW/Kraft Light/Lite-line Cheddar Slices - UCK!  Stay away!  Bleh!
    
    Any brand fat-free slices = UCK!  Tastes like cardboard, melts like
    styrofoam, ICK!
    
    Laughing Cow low-fat spreadable cheese = tastes just like the original
    
    Kraft/Philly low-fat cream cheese = spreads fine, tastes like cream
    cheese but a little less rich, use it all the time (not in baking,
    though)
    
    Alpine Lace non-fat cream cheese = DOUBLE UCK!  'nuf said.
    
    Wilson Farms low-fat Harvarti, 100 cal/ounce = tastes GREAT, melts
    GREAT, but not very low in fat compared to other low-fat cheeses
    (although low compared to regular Harvarti) - this isn't a regular
    brand, and I've never found it anywhere else other than Wilson Farms in
    Lexington, MA.
    
    ??? low-fat parmesan, 60 cal/ounce = okay to sprinkle on spaghetti, but
    doesn't have the strong flavor of parm. for use in dishes that are
    basedon the taste, like alfredo.  doesn't melt well AT ALL.  
    
    D!

    I tried Aunt Jemima light pancakes, and wasn't too impressed.  I don't
    remember the calorie or fat breakdown, but I noticed that they reduced
    the fat by 1 gram (from 3 to 2, maybe) but also reduced the carbo grams
    significantly (presumably by adding non-nutritive filler such as
    cellulose), and therefore the light product is actually *higher* in
    fat, when taken as a percentage of calories.
    
    One serving is considered to be 3 small pancakes, which isn't what *I*
    consider a serving.
    
    The pancakes came out okay but they tasted a little, well, empty.
    
    Since pancakes are so easy to make low-fat on your own, I won't use
    this stuff again (I didn't buy it, I tried it at someone else's house.)
    
    D!

             
    Those on a stricter diet might try Calabro non-fat low sodium
    mozzarella. Melts so-so, but better than other non-fat brands.
    I like it a little melted in sandwiches, mild but pleasant, delicate
    flavour. And it's sold in a cake, not sliced.
    Available in Bread&Circus in Newton and Roche Bros, not sure about
    other supermarkets.       

    The latest issue of Consumer Reports has an article on non-fat foods,
    and includes ratings of four types of non-fat foods (Oatmeal Raisin
    cookies, American Cheese slices, Italian dressing and, um, er, I forget
    the fourth.)
    
    Anyway, except for the cookies, all the non-fat products were
    substantially less tasty than their full-fat and their low-fat
    versions.  Big surprise there.
    
    They basically said that non-fat can never compete with low-fat or
    full-fat, especially in products where the fat provides an essential
    component of the experience (like cheese), rather than just an
    ingredient (like cookies).
    
    My experience is that there are some non-fat products which are great,
    if they don't try to "imitate" regular food.  I love some non-fat
    dressings (WW Caeser is my favorite), but not the ones that try to
    look/taste like the heavy ones (ranch, blue cheese, etc.)  Mostly,
    though, I've had better luck eating food that is naturally low in fat
    (veggies, grains, fish + poultry) rather than commercialized non-fat foods.
    With the exception of cheese, which I love and eat a lot of, so I eat
    the low-fat ALL the time.
    
    I tried Healthy Valley fat-free oatmeal cookies the other day...I liked
    them, although they weren't *great*.
    
    D!

    Oddly enough, I like the Land O'Lakes non-fat Sour Cream as much as the
    real thing.  That's one product that should live or die based on its
    fat content (and some others, like Hood's, die), but the Land O'Lakes
    people must be doing something right.
    
    It's pretty good on potatoes and tacos ...

    I agree on both Land-O-Lakes and Hood.  Oddly, Land-o-Lakes has twice
    as many calories as Hood - although both are non-fat.  I guess LoL is
    just denser - it tastes that way, and the texture is firmer/thicker
    than Hood.
    
    What sort of fat substitutes are in the non-fat sour creams?  Whey
    protein?
    
    D!

    Land O'Lakes has twice the calories?  Are you sure?  Their serving size
    is 2 Tbsp, 30 cals total.
    
    Anyway, from the label, it looks like cellulose gel is the texturizer.
    
    I'm not sure what whey protein would provide in terms of fat replace-
    ment, but I must confess some degree of ignorance with that whole
    technology.

        Land O'Lakes has twice the calories?  Are you sure?  Their serving
        size
        is 2 Tbsp, 30 cals total.
    
    
    I believe so.  I'll double check tonight (the pint of Hood I have at
    home is lasting a LONG time due to it not being very good :-) but I
    think it has 15 cal/ounce (1 oz = 2 T).
    
    D!

I've found a wonderful dessert that allows me to enjoy a guilt-free dessert:

Enteman's Golden Loaf Cake (1 oz. slice = 70 Calories, 0 Fat), fresh 
Strawberries, and Lite Cool Whip (8 Calories/Tablespoon, 0 Fat) is all it takes.  

I even like this dessert without the Strawberies.  

Enjoy,
Linda  

	Linda,

	We went to a dinner party this weekend, and I brought
	an Entenmann's Fat Free Golden Loaf Cake, Nonfat Vanilla
	Frozen Yogurt, Strawberries and whipped cream (for my husband :-) ).

	We made fat-free Strawberry shortcake, using the frozen yogurt
	in place of most of the whipped cream.  I just left the cream off
	of mine entirely.

	Last summer, I frequently served Angel Food cake topped with 
	Strawberry Frozen yogurt and fresh strawberries.

	yum!

    Linda,
    
    That is my alltime FAVORITE dessert!  YUMMMY!!  Now I have a major
    craving!
    
    I don't know if it was this note or another, but D! talked about the
    Guiltless Gourmet line of tortilla chips and dip.  I finally found the
    display in Super Stop and Shop and WOW!  It is awesome!!  The cheddar
    cheese picante dip has 0 fat and you can't even tell the difference.
    
    If it weren't for these fat free foods, I would be as big as a house
    right now!!
    
    
    -Roberta
    

            Land O'Lakes has twice the calories?  Are you sure?  Their
            serving size is 2 Tbsp, 30 cals total.
    
    Checked last night.  Indeed, Hood non-fat sour cream alternative is 15
    cal/2 Tbs serving, and Land-o-Lakes is 30 cal/2 Tbs serving.  I still
    like LoL better, though.
    
    Has anyone tried cooking with non-fat sour cream?  I mostly use it on
    things, such as burritos or in dips.  The one time I tried cooking it -
    putting it on some home fries while they were frying like my father
    used to do - it didn't work very well.  Regular sour cream is mostly
    fat so it lubricates.  This stuff evaporated leaving a dry, sticky
    substance.
    
    Next I'd like to try a sour cream based sauce, such as Beef Stroganoff
    or Chicken Paprikash. Anyone else tried this?
    
    D!

    I've been making my own refried beans for a while using canned Kidney
    beans because some brands of prepackaged refried beans have a lot of
    added fat.  However, I looked it up last night and found that
    CASA FIESTA refried beans is 114 cal/half cup with 1 gram of fat (ie:
    about 8% cal from fat), and OLD EL PASO is 110 cal/half cup with less
    than 1 gram of fat.
    
    This is only the regular beans - for some reason the vegetarian, spicy,
    and green-chili added beans had more fat, and obviously so did the
    sausage and cheese varieties.  Does anyone know abour Ortega (which was
    not in my book?)  Stay away from Del Monte - they have the most fat.
    
    D!

    
    >Next I'd like to try a sour cream based sauce, such as Beef Stroganoff
    >or Chicken Paprikash. Anyone else tried this?
    
     I've used it in several recipes calling for sour cream (including
    dessert recipes).  It is ok, but I think the lo-fat versions are far
    better, even for recipes.
    
    
               				/Rita
    

	Roberta,

	What area of Stop and Shop had the Guiltless items ?

	(I'm assuming you're referring to the Westboro store, based
	on your node).

	D!
	Do you find that the fat-free sour cream is kind of soupy in 
	dips ?  I used Hood when I tried it, and wasn't that pleased
	with the results.

	At the dinner I went to Saturday, the host used a combination
	of low-fat and fat-free sour cream for a veggie dip.  She failed
	to tell me that for the hour that I restrained myself from eating
	any dip, then casually mentioned it right before dinner.  Oh well,
	I guess I didn't need it anyway, low-fat or not!

	Also,
	I've got a mock-stroganoff recipe that I created that doesn't
	use any sour cream.  I'd say you could use that recipe, then 
	swirl in a little fat-free sour cream just before eating.  

	Karen

    The Hood non-fat sour cream I found soupy.  The Land-o-Lakes is not.
    
    Can you post your mock stroganoff recipe?
    
    D!

    Karen,
    
    Yes, it is the Super Stop and Shop in Westboro.  When you go in the
    doors to the left of the store (near the shoe store), the display is in
    the section to the left of the produce.  It is along the wall on the
    far left.  There are all kinds of health foods/fat free foods displayed
    there.  The Guiltless Gourmet line is not cheap:  $2.49 for a 7 ounce
    bag of chips and $4.99 for the dip, but it's worth it.
    
    -Roberta
    

	OH!

	I should have known that!  I used to hit that area all the time,
	until I started going over budget on my groceries...

	Thanks!!!

	Karen

    Speaking of sour cream, I like the IMO low fat stuff.  Makes great dips

    IMO?  Is that a misplaced "in my opinion" or a brand name?

    IMO is the brand name.

    RE: using the Lo-fat sour cream in sauces.
    
    I have used LoL sour cream in many Indian dishes that call for sour
    cream to create a thick sauce/gravy. The taste and texture both are as
    good as the "real" thing. (and I can eat the dishes without worrying
    about the fat :-))
    
    Shaila

    Thanks, Shaila...have you ever used NON-fat sour cream in such a
    recipe?  For me, even low-fat sour cream has too much fat to use it as
    a main ingredient in a recipe.
    
    Thanks,
    Diana

    I've never seen LoL low-fat, only non-fat.

    re:-2 I have used non-fat sour cream - I just don't remember the brand
    name. It worked fine.
    
    Shaila

	Well, you all were right, the Guiltless Gourmet stuff is
	great, especially the cheese queso dip.  mmmmmmm !

	The tortilla chips aren't much different than those I made at home
	(corn tortillas cut into wedges and baked).

    Yeah, Karen, that cheese dip is awesome!  I tried the black bean dip
    over the weekend, but didn't really like it as much.
    
    Off to S&S tonight to buy more!
    
    -Roberta
    

	One thing I noticed on the cheese dip jar.  It says 0 fat,
	but lists milk as one of the ingredients (not skim milk, or non
	fat milk solids).  I hope this isn't one of those cases where the
	manufacturer says 0 fat instead of "Less than one gram".

	(At only 22 calories per serving, I think it matters!)

            (At only 22 calories per serving, I think it matters!)
    
    Why?  How much is considered a "serving"?  If it's less than one gram
    fat, then it can't be over 1/3 calories from fat anyway...
    
    D!

    One ounce is considered a serving.  Milk is one of the ingredients in
    the cheddar cheese, but I think it is a dried form or something.  I
    will have to check the jar again when I buy some more.  It lists
    cheddar cheese in the ingredients, and then in () what the cheddar
    cheese consists of.
    

    
    I tried the Land O Lakes nonfat sour cream and I really don't like
    it.  The taste starts out right, but by the time it gets to the
    back of your mouth you can tell that something critical is missing.
    I've found that nonfat Columbo plain yogurt has a much more full-bodied
    flavor, and is a much better sour cream substitute for things like 
    nachos, black bean burritos and sauces. 
    
    Adam 

	Diana,

	I'm not usually so strict, but I am currently trying to keep
	my fat intake very low (15% maximum).  I just want to know if
	I'm really eating something that's 0% fat or 35% fat.  
	Besides, I seldom eat "1 serving" of anything (if you use package
	information for a serving size).  :-)

	It's not a huge deal, but I also do not like to be misled.

	Karen

    re: yogurt - have you tried making yogurt cheese?  This has more the
    consistency of sour cream, and as long as you don't cook with it, works
    pretty well, esp if you use low-fat instead of non-fat yogurt (tho' I
    usually use non-fat anyway.)
    
    D!

    
    By "yogurt cheese" do you mean straining yogurt through a cheese
    cloth?   I have done this in the past in an attempt to make a
    cream cheese substitute to put on bagels (it failed terribly)
    but I hadn't thought about using it as a sour cream substitute.
    I'll have to give it a try.
    
    Adam

    Yes, that's what I mean.  I actually used coffee filters for this
    purpose until I bought a yogurt-cheese maker, which is a little plastic
    sieve that sits over a jar or something, into which you scoop the
    yogurt to be drained.  (Got it at Lectcher's, I believe.)
    
    I tried the cream-cheese substitute thing, too, and that didn't work so
    hot for bagels, but it works great for making cold spreads for muffins
    and such, by mixing it with a little jam and/or sweetener and flavor
    (such as vanilla or lemon.)  The longer you drain it, the firmer it is. 
    Only drain for about 6 hours to get a sour-cream like consistency.
    
    D!

    I've had really good success making yogurt cheese for spreads. Before I
    put it in the yogurt-cheese maker, I add a little vanilla and a packet
    of Equal. I let it drain a good 24 hours for creamcheese consistency.
    I've used other flavorings, like orange or almond extract, and use the
    less firm stuff for toppings. You can make a terrific dessert with
    angelfood cake, fresh fruit and this stuff drizzled or glopped over it.
    
    Enjoy!

    re:. 0 grams fat and milk
    
    If the label says 0 grams of fat, there must be less than .5 grams
    of fat, on average, in a serving of that food.
    
    And, unless you're eating more than 4 or 5 servings, the true fat
    content doesn't matter, even if you're on a strict diet.
    
    Also, remember that the fat content is not guaranteed, it's an average
    based on a large recipe for making the product.  For example, chicken
    soup may say X grams of fat, but YOUR can may have X+some or X-some,
    and some can typically be 1 or 2 grams.
    
    Food manufacturers cannot test every can, nor can they usually control
    the absolute fat content of their ingredients - in the case of chicken
    soup, chickens can be more or lessy fatty than average, for a given
    lot.
    
    It will most likely never be possible to get more accurate information
    on a prepackaged product made with ingredients that vary in nutrients
    and fat.  Even vegetables vary all over the place in terms of vitamins
    and minerals.  So a package of frozen corn, for example, may not pack
    all the nutrients it says on the label.  Or it may pack more.
    
    Your only option is to accept it as accurate and realize that it should
    all average out over time.

	Thanks, Mike.

	The .5 grams or less is very helpful information.   I didn't
	mean to sound obsessive about the fat - I'm not.  However,
	as I mentioned before, I do want to know if the food I'm eating
	is 0% fat, 45% fat, or somewhere in between.  

	Karen

    try Campbell's Healthy Request Cream of Mushroom soup!  I didn't have
    it as soup, but as sauce, since I'm not a fan of canned CoM soup as
    soup.
    
    I made two things with it: tuna casserole and chicken-and-rice.  both
    were quite tasty.  
    
    The condensed soup has 60 calories per serving, according to the label,
    with 2 3/4 servings per can.  Which means if you (as I do) consider 1
    can = 2 servings, that's 80 calories per serving or so, with 1 or 2
    grams of fat.
    
    here's how I used it: tuna casserole = 1/2 can mushroom soup, 1/2 can
    milk, 1 can tuna, 4 oz cooked noodles, 1/2 cup peas, 1/2 c red pepper,
    mix together, spread in a baking pan, sprinkle with bread crumbs,
    parmesan cheese and paprika, bake until the top is crispy.
    
    chicken-and-rice = 2 cups cooked brown rice, 1/2 can soup, 1/4 can
    milk, 6 oz chicken, chopped cooked veggies (I used canned artichoke
    hearts this time - yummy!), mixed and heat.  Top with cheese if
    desired.
    
    D!

    Guiltless Gourmet no oil tortilla chips.
    
    1.4 grams of fat per ounce.
    
    11% of calories from fat.

	Fat-free potato chips ... I think the brand name was Louise's

	I picked them up at Julio's/Star Market (I've seen them in both
	the Northboro and Shrewsbury store).

	They're a bit salty (and I *like* salt), but they're pretty good.

	I think they'd be perfect with a low-fat dip.

	Karen

	American Grains Popsters.

	They're sort of like potato chips.  Made from potatoes and brown rice,
	they're air popped.  I've only tried the "regular" style, they
	also have an herb variety and a salt and vinegar variety.

	Excellent for those potato chip cravings!
	
	50 kcal /ounce, .5gm fat

	I found them at Shaw's, along beside the Guiltless Gourmet chips.

    
    Does someone know the regular or gourmet hummus fat/cal breakdown.

    Depends on the ingredients.  The more tahini and/or olive oil, the
    higher the fat.  Chick peas are low in fat.
    
    The way I make it, It's about 50-60 cal/ounce with about 2-3 grams of
    fat.  I use that figure when using commercial hummus too, which I
    figure is close enough for gov't work.
    
    D!

    Dannon light nonfat frozen yogurt.
    
    Serving size: 4 fl oz.
    calories	: 80
    protein	:  4 gm
    carbohydrate: 18 gm
    fat		:  0 gm
    
    Remarkably tasty and good-textured for a nonfat frozen product.  You
    won't confuse it with ice cream, that's for sure, but it's much better
    than any other lowfat frozen product I've ever tried, and it's low in
    calories, too (only 320 per pint).

    Guiltless Gourmet Mild Cheddar Qeso (soft cheddar cheese for nacho
    chips).
    
    This is fantastic with a little salsa on their no oil tortilla chips!
    
    serving size: 1 oz
    calories	: 22
    protein	: 0.3 gm
    carbohydrate: 4.5 gm
    fat		: 0.0 gm
    

    
     
      This is kinda like Guiltless Gourmet, but this line is called
    
    "Estella's" I found them in the Mexican section of Shaw's
    
     Almost identical containers and from Texas   scrumptious!
    
     NACHO CHEESE DIP
    
    
    
    
    serving size: 1 oz
    calories	: 25
    protein	: 0.0 gm
    carbohydrate: 0.6 gm
    fat		: 2.4 gm
    
    
    

    
    Estella's  Pinto Bean Dip   
    
    ( I liked this better than Guiltless's Bean Dip )
    
    serving size: 1 oz
    calories	: 15
    protein	: 0.21 gm
    carbohydrate: 1.39 gm
    fat		: 1.06 gm
    fiber	: 1.00 gm

	I'd use Estella's Nacho Cheese Dip sparingly.  It's 100% fat,
	going by the information you entered here.  It might not matter
	if you have an ounce, but I tend to eat more than that when I
	have the guiltless gourmet cheese dip.

	Karen

    I live in Merrimack, NH and have not been successful in finding the
    Guiltless brand of snacks. Anyone living in this area point me in the
    right direction?
    
    Thx
    
    Shaila

    When we're camping I need mostly ready made foods (read: canned,
    frozen, dried, UCK-bigtime) I found this sauce and wanted your thoughts
    From the label:
    
    Hunts Spaghetti Sauce Light
    Srv Size            4 oz        Cholesterol (omg/100g)          0mg
    Svs per container   6.7         Sodum                         320mg
    Calories           40           Fat                             0
    Protein             2           Carbs                           9
    
    Ingredients: Tomato concentrate from red vine-ripened tomatoes, salt
    dehydrated garlic, spices, citric acid, natural flavors
    
    Hunt's light Spaghetti Sauce has all the delicious flavor you expect
    from a premium spaghetti sauce and it has NO FAT, NO CHOLESTEROL, NO
    ADDED SUGAR, AND ONLY 40 CALORIES AND 320 MG SODIUM PER SERVING! Hunt's
    Light is made with red vine ripened tomatoes and a special blend of
    extra garlic, mild onions , herbs and spices for a savory and
    flavorfull spaghetti sauce.
    
    Sound too good to be true?
    
    Pauline
    

    I use Hunt's Light all the time, and I believe there are a couple of
    notes about it in this string.  It is by far my favorite low-fat
    spaghetti sauce, and I also use it for pizza (mixed with tomato paste),
    lasagna, etc.
    
    D!

    
    Does anyone know where I can get no-fat potato chips in the Boston
    area?  I've tried several places with no luck.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Adam

    I frequent three markets, two large ones (Almacs, Stop and Shop) and
    one tiny neighborhood market (the smaller the market, the better the
    meats).
    
    Only the small market carries Guiltless Gourmet.  Go figure ...

    I picked up a bag of "lite" fries last week.  (I think they were Ore-
    Ida Lite Dinner Fries)
    
    
    3 gm fat per 3 oz.  There were (I think) 7 servings per bag.
    
    I then compared that with my old favorite (Ore-Ida Crispers) and found
    they had 13 gm fat per 3 oz.
    
    Two bags of fries, the same weight ... one had 21 gm fat, the other had
    91 gm fat.
    
    BIG difference.
    
    The lite fries were pretty darn good... not as good as the Crispers,
    but at 70 (yes, SEVENTY) fewer grams of fat per bag, I can really get
    to like 'em.

    Are these the sort of fries that you bake and they come out vaguely but
    not really resembling real restaraunt type fries?  When they come out
    with lite tater tots, then I'll be happy.  :-)
    
    re: fries...I can usually satisfy my fry craving by cutting fries out
    of potatoes myself, spraying them with pam and baking them until crispy
    and lightly browned.  Not quite the same, but virtually fat-free.
    
    D!

    These are dinner fries ... they're much thicker (hence how they get
    away with less fat - less surface area) and they taste more like
    potatoes than french fries (I prefer that anyway).
    
    I'll have to try making my own ...

	Last night I tried Mrs. Smith's "Smart-style" Dessert.

	I tried the "Apples in a fluted pastry" (like an apple pie without
	a top crust)

	It was absolutely SCRUMPTIOUS !  The apples are slightly tart, and
	the filling was not sickeningly sweet.  The crust was very tasty.

	180 calories per serving (1 svg = 1/6 of a pie - quite adequate!)
	15% calories from fat

	top it off with some vanilla frozen yogurt for a dessert thats
	fit for company!

    
    Snack Wells   Double Fudge Cookies
    
    They were on sale, so I figured I'd give them a try.  
    
    60 cal. per cookie   0g Fat
    
    They are a soft cookie (cakey) with a dollop of fudge on top.  Worked
    for me when the chocolate craving hit !  They are pretty good.
    
    Laurie O
    
    

    Snackwells Devils Food Cookie Cakes are great too, and also 0 grams
    fat.  50 cal. each.
    

    
    
    I can't find the Devils Food Cookie Cakes anywhere in the
    Leominster/Fitchburg area...  Where do you get them ??
    
    LO
    
    

    I live in Shrewsbury, and have the same problem!  My mom gets them for
    me at Sudbury Farms in Sudbury, but she has to hit it on the right day
    to find them, sometimes going back several times each week or several
    times each *day*!
    
    One day when she finally found them and grabbed like 6 boxes, the woman
    at the register told her that the reason they go so quickly is that the
    employees take them first, and usually deplete most or all of the
    supply.  They are extremely difficult to purchase!  I do my grocery
    shopping at Super Stop & Shop in Westboro, and although they have a
    sign for them in the aisle they have never been stocked while I am
    there.  Bummer!!
    

    Classico mushrooms and ripe olives spaghetti sauce.
    
    It has 2gm fat per 4oz, so I cut it 50/50 with Hunt's Light.  That
    makes it about 1gm fat per 4oz.
    
    Classico is very good sauce.
    
    The other Classico varieties are all higher in fat, closer to 4gm per
    4oz.

    
    Well, I tried Louise's fat-free potato chips last night, and I must
    offer a disenting opinion from .135 - they were AWFUL!  And at $1.89 a
    bag, not a particularly good value, either.  I'll be feeding these to
    my birds (if they'll eat them!).  BLECH!
    
    I'm at the point where I'd like to try making my own non/low fat potato
    chips - anyone got any good recipes?
    
    
    						/Rita
    

    re: .88

    > Another idea to cure that salsa craving (I am crazy about salsa)

    That seems to imply that salsa is a no-no.  It's been a while, but
    according to WW, isn't salsa counted as a vegetable and there
    unlimited?