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Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
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Moderator:ASICS::LESLIE
Created:Mon Jul 09 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
Total number of notes:9931

577.0. "Roller Coaster Lady" by CGHUB::SHIELDS () Tue May 01 1990 11:23

    I've been reading this note file and there seems to be a lot of
    people out there following the OA plan.
    
    - I have been putting off for a few weeks on attending my first meeting.
    Every morning I come in, dial the OA number that I retrieved from
    the white pages, and that's the end of it till the next morning.
    - Can someone out there give me some insight as to what the program
    is like?  Is it near impossible to follow?  I hear that you have
    to eliminate starches and sugars from your diet; ok, is that livable?
    - On the other hand being overweight is not livable.
    I am so depressed, I could cry today.  This lousy weather is not
    helping my spirits out any either.
    - I'm just confused.  I hate to start a program and fail for whatever
    reasons.  Of course I feel like a big failure just being overweight.
    I must motivate myself and get going.  This roller coaster I'm on
    is killing me, so why don't I get off?  
    
    Any help given is 'more' than appreciated.
    
    Ugly to be with 
    

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577.1Right behind you.....AKOV12::KELLYTue May 01 1990 13:5028
    
    
    
    Hi.....
    
    I think I'm in the car right behind you (on the roller coaster, that
    is).....it's weird cuz I've been doing the exact same thing you have..I
    want so much to go to my first OA meeting, but I just haven't been able
    to do it yet......I too am scared to fail again.....and I keep having these
    weird thoughts about OA......like it's going to be really weird or
    something.....I just don't know what to do.....I know what I should
    do......I should JUST DO IT!!!! I should know by now that I obviously
    cannot do it on my own......I am at the end of my rope......I've been
    completely depressed for a while now and I cannot snap out of it....my 
    entire personality has changed...the more weight I gain, the more I just 
    keep to myself...I don't even want anyone to look at me cuz they'll get
    sick......
    
    THAT'S IT!!!  I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITHIN THE NEXT 2 DAYS!!!  
    
    This is my decision.......either I'll go to my first OA meeting, or if
    I feel I just can't do it yet, I'll start Weight Watchers this
    week....and if I don't succeed at WW, then I will DEFINITELY go to OA
    and MAKE IT WORK FOR ME!!!!!  Major frustration has set in!!!!!!!!!!
    I've NEVER ben so FAT!!! Aghhhhhh!!!  50 lbs. overweight!!! YUCK!!! 
    
    I WANNA GET OFF THIS ROLLER COASTER TOO!!!  NOW!!!

577.2You're part way thereCSC32::WILCOXBack in the High Life, AgainWed May 02 1990 12:0310
Please try to not be so hard on yourselves.  I know "easier said than done".
You've both taken a HUGE and scary step here.  I've been wrestling for
a while with weather or not I want to face what I think is an addiction
to sugar.  I'm not ready yet and I might never be.  I don't think I
want to live without it.  I'm about 30 pounds overweight and know that
it's my downfall, but...

You're part way there.  Believe in yourselves and your ability to
do what you have to do.  Just do it when you're ready.

577.3SSDDCGHUB::SHIELDSWed May 02 1990 13:4123
    Thank you for your notes of encouragement.  This is all so difficult.
    I've lost weight over and over again.  I'm tired of getting up in
    the morning and facing a closet of 'too small' clothes.  I love
    getting up in the morning with a full closet of stuff I can fit
    into.  I love having more energy than I know what to do with.  I
    LOVE having someone (particularly someone of the opposite sex) take
    a double take when I walk by.  (My vanity is probably my biggest
    fault!)  I'm like you .2 about 30 lbs. overweight.  But whether
    its 30, 40, 50 or 100 the low self esteem is the same.  I'm not
    addicted to sugar.  I LOVE pasta and breads, but I don't feel as
    if I go overboard.  I NEVER eat between meals, NEVER have breakfast,
    drink lots of water, NEVER eat candy, desserts, ice cream or any
    of that stuff.  I just love my rice, potato, and pasta.  I can't
    imagine how big I'd be if I indulged in the sweet category as well.
    
    Oh well.  I MUST attend an OA meeting to see what their philosophy
    is all about.  Maybe they can help me.
    
    Again, thank you for your support and kind words!
    
    SSDD
    

577.4Take the first stepCOMET::BUCHHOLZWed May 02 1990 22:028
    OA can be very helpful, but if you try one group and don't like it,
    try another. 
    Part of the philosophy is to trust in a Higher Power(whatever that is)
    to give the strength to get through one day, one hour, one minute at a
    time. They base themselves on the 12 step program of AA. It's a
    self-help group with minimal expense.
    Go check it out, you won't lose anything but a couple of hours.

577.5GIVE OA A TRY -YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT WT.OFFPLS::DESHARNAISThu May 03 1990 11:2346
    You sound like I did before I joined OA.  I was so desparate and
    depressed I couldn't stand myself and I isolated from everyone. Food
    was my only friend.  The day I joined OA was the day I realized that
    I had had all three of my meals going thru fast food chains.   Always
    in a hurry to please other people and get so much done. We are our
    worse enemy.  I looked up in the Nashua NH phone book and there was
    a meeting that night in Hudson so I forced myself to go.  (you hear
    people at the meetings say how you find every excuse in the book not
    to go, but you just have to get there to hear the encouragement from
    other people and the incredible support you get from other people. 
    
    Some people get up and describe what they use to do with food (run the
    shower so no one would hear them open the ring ding package and things
    like that)  You somethimes think they are talking about you! It is such
    a relief to know that there are other people out there who also have no
    control over food.    The food plan is eliminate sugar and white
    processed flour.  I never thought I'd be able to give up pasta. But I
    haven't had any since January of 1989.  I went to several meetings and
    was nervous and was leary about the "higher power" stuff. Some people 
    believe in God (I do) and others use another person as a higher power
    to give up the problems of the day.
    
    The whole idea is not to put food into your mouth because of emotions.
    Wether they are happy or sad.   You will hear wonderful, encouraging
    testimoney from people who have been in the program for 4-5 years and
    more and have lost weight from as little as 25 lbs to 200 lbs. 
    
    It is nothing like I've tried and believe me, I've done all the
    diet programs out there and spent thousands of dollars, Even hypnosis
    and diet doctors with vitamin shots, etc.  
    
    They tell you to attend 6 meetings before you decide if this is what
    you want.   I new the first meeting that this was the answer for me.
    I have met so many wonderful people there.   
    
    The nice thing is it's FREE and anonymous so they only know your
    first name.  There are all kinds of professional people, there 
    from nurses, to nuns.  We are all people who have no control
    of food and you learn from others how to handle it one day at a time.
    Please go to a meeting and just listen.   I bring my cup of coffee
    and relax and come out of there feeling so encouraged.
    
    Good luck,
    Barbara
    

577.6Me, Too!!POCUS::FEINMANTue May 08 1990 10:5828
    The roller coaster is familiar to me also.  I have been dieting
    all of my life but most of the time I was getting fatter and fatter.
    Since October I have been on a sensible program and have lost 35
    pounds, about half of the weight I need to lose.
    
    I hope that we all learn to love ourselves, not feel guilty and
    ugly (we really aren't, you know) but feel good about ourselves
    at any weight.
    
    I am at a dangerous weight right now--151 pounds at only 5'3" sounds
    huge but I actually look almost "normal", I am getting compliments
    and starting to feel good about myself.  But I am forced to face
    my sexuality (always a problem for me) and I am "stuck".  I haven't
    been losing weight and am feeling good that I haven't been gaining.
     I need to get beyond this point but it is pretty much the thinnest
    I have ever been and I've only been this thin twice--at 16 years
    old and at 28 right before I met my husband.  It is very scary for
    me.  Most people don't understand the ambivalent feelings associated
    with fat - it has been my "friend" all of these years, and provided
    a great excuse for everything that has ever gone wrong.  Am I ready
    to give up my fickle friend fat???  I hope so.  
    
    And I wish you all luck as well.  It helps reading other people's
    thoughts about all of this, I don't feel so alone.
    
    Sylvia
    

577.7Roller Coaster LadyCGHUB::SHIELDSTue May 08 1990 12:0849
    Since I first opened this topic I started doing aerobics EVERY morning
    with a tv guru (actually Denise Austin) and feeling much, much
    better.  My outlook is improving, and my food choices are wiser.
    I've lost 7 lbs. and am conscientious about my posture all day long.
    
    Good tip:
    One of the things Denise said the first morning I followed her program
    was that we must sit straight (especially those of us who sit at
    a desk all day long) and remember to tuck in our tummies, otherwise
    the tummy has nowhere to go but "out"!  (I don't know about you,
    but that is always a complaint of mine.  The tummy.)  She also pointed
    out that a stronger tummy also helps support the lower back thus
    eliminating lower back pain.  (Also a problem for me.) So I have
    little notes here and there reminding myself to keep the shoulders
    back, tuck in the tummy and also to drink plenty of water. 
    
    These are not outstanding changes, however, they are producing results
    and giving me the zest I need to do more. My energy level has increased
    considerably, and the stress level is much, much better. Every little
    detail does not feel like a mountain. 
    
    So every morning I'm up at 5:15 a.m., exercise program begins at
    5:30, shower, fix the kiddies breakfast and by that time I'm already
    beginning to feel the surge of energy from the aerobics. By the
    time I reach the office I REALLY FEEL GOOD.  
    
    Another tip I heard on tv:
    Chronicle had a special last Wednesday or Thursday evening on all
    the fad diets that are on the market.  One of the last setments
    of the program had a nutritionist (I think) telling her audience
    'not to be so hard on ourselves'. She said, "OK so you're over-
    weight, just do something about it.  Work on it.  Don't try to loose
    50 lbs. a month with some ridiculous diet.  Do something that you
    can live with and then increase your efforts.  But stop beating
    yourselves up daily." She spoke with such sincerity and kindness,
    I really listened and felt encouraged. She also told us that not
    everyone on that beach this summer has a perfect body and those
    of us who do not should NOT hide and deprive ourselves from what
    we enjoy doing.  So we're not perfect, but we're working on it!
    
    I hope this helps someone out there who feels as bad as I have lately.
    This sure has made me feel better.
    
    Good luck!
    
    Roller Coaster Lady
    
      

577.8Think thinSALEM::ALLEN_DThu May 31 1990 15:0311
    When we go shopping instead of calling it food shopping use the
    term FAT SHOPPING so you select the things with the LEAST fat in
    it as possible by compareing everything that is bought and you will
    be eating all the low fat items in the store that are good for you
    both ways.And after a while you will see the difference in how the
    weight get transfered from fat to muscle tone and that is a point
    to think about,loosing fat is one thing but loosing muscle tone
    is quite another. Sugestion for today think thin as though you al
    ready are and it will happen,just give it time. Have a good day
    D.A