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| 521.1 | Good Tips | ATSE::BLOCK | Looking for Galt's Gulch... | Thu Oct 12 1989 22:35 | 20 |
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> MYTH: Salad bars are excellent for dieters.
> FACT: Salad dressing can make a salad high in fat and calories.
Well, I agree with your fact, but I also feel that the "myth" is also
fact. Salad bars are great, *if* you know what foods are fattening and
which aren't. Cheese and meats add calories fast, as do prepared salads
(such as cole slaw and tuna). Salad dressing is okay in moderation; just
don't use gobs of it.
A lot more restaurants are having more realistic diet specials these days
-- it's not that unusual to see broiled chicken with veggies on a menu.
What's really important to successful weightloss and maintenance is
knowing what's really in the foods you eat -- how fatty they are, or how
much protein they have -- and how much of the various nutrients and food
groups you should be getting.
Beverly
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| 521.2 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Blackadder the 7th | Fri Oct 13 1989 05:00 | 77 |
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Well I'm astonished at .0 and have felt constrained to reply with what
I consider the REAL facts to be. Feel free to argue.
- Andy ��� Leslie
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> MYTH: Dieting is more important thatn exercise.
> FACT: Not so. Lack of exercise is the single biggest reason why people
> are over weigth.
FACT: Diet and exercise go hand in hand. Overeating for the level of
exercise you take is the single biggest reason for obesity.
> MYTH: Salt is Fattening.
> FACT: Salt has no calories so it's not fattening -- although it can
> cause some people to retain water.
FACT: Salt causes *all* mammals to retain water in order to cope with
the addition minerals in their body. A pint of water weighs a pound and
a quarter. Inordinate amounts of salt can cause other digestive
illnesses.
> MYTH: You can trust your calorie guide.
> FACT: Diet books that provide lists of foods and the number of calories
> they contain usually give calorie counts for portions that are much
> smaller than those you're likely to eat. You should weigh food portions
> to make sure you're getting an accurate calorie count.
FACT: Trust the calorie guide that states the weight tested to give the
calorific value. If you limit your calorific intake by weight, this
WORKS. (I know! Believe me!)
> MYTH: Dieting is always difficult.
> FACT: It doen't have to be. The key to successful dieting is finding
> the fatty foods you can easily cut down on. Make choices you can live
> with.
FACT: Achieving a permanent weightloss is difficulty because it
involves changing your exercise and eating habits PERMANENTLY.
"Dieting" in itself is intrinsically USELESS.
> MYTH: When you diet you'll have to give up favorite foods.
> FACT: Wrong. You can actually continue eating favorite foods, but in
> smaller amounts. When you do indulge in a favorite fatty food,
> compensate by cutting out another fatty food you don't like as much.
FACT: If your favourite foods are calorific and fat laden then you must
change your diet PERMANENTLY to retain any weightloss. Cutting out
foods that are better for you in terms of saturated fats and calories
is a BIG mistake.
> MYTH: Health foods are low in calories.
> FACT: Some of the so-called health foods are very high in fat. A bowl
> of granola cereal, for instance, has around 600 calories.
FACT: "health" food is generally hype, Cultivate the ability to read
labels.
> MYTH: Salad bars are excellent for dieters.
> FACT: Salad dressing can make a salad high in fat and calories.
FACT: This is true. If you choose to accompany your "good" foods with
high-cal high-fat foods, your "diet" is bunk.
> MYTH: Diet specials in restaurants are good choices if you're trying to
> lose weight.
> FACT: Most of the so-called specials in restaurants actually contain
> more calories than you'd get with a simple turkey samdwich, salad and
> apple.
FACT: Common sense never stopped you ordering the right foods in a
restaurant. Taking somebodys word that a dish is low-cal when it
blatantly isn't is NOT common sense.
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| 521.3 | - shape y | WMOIS::FAVREAU | | Fri Oct 13 1989 08:26 | 13 |
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re. 521.0
I see we read the same magazines. I received my new issue of SHAPE
yesterday and keyed in on the same article. If I had the issue
here I would add to this note the writers/analayzers of Myth & Facts.
People tend to view things differently once they know who wrote it.
...
val
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| 521.4 | pounds .ne. fat | CNTROL::JENNISON | | Fri Oct 13 1989 09:27 | 14 |
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re .2
Regarding salt, it will make you retain water. Retained water
will make you "weigh" more. But, retaining water shouldn't make
you overfat. I believe that is the 'myth' they are trying to
dispel (as they mention water retention).
BTW, I think you're doing great. Keep it up! (or should I say
down? hmm...)
Karen
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| 521.5 | A pint's a pound, the world around | ATSE::BLOCK | Looking for Galt's Gulch... | Fri Oct 13 1989 11:32 | 20 |
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Andy,
Are you sure a pint of water is 1� lb? I always thought it was
exactly 1 pound. It's one of the few such relationships I keep
track of easily (see the title).
I also disagree that it's necessary to cut out favorite foods
permanently. They should be kept to reasonable portions; a
good food plan has room for such things (inn WW it's handled as
weekly optional calories). No, I shouldn't count ice cream as
milk + fat, but if I can never have it, I'll start feeling
deprived and go back to my old, uncontrolled ways.
The rest of what you said I agree with, though I think some of
it is just saying what .0 said in a clearer way.
Beverly
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| 521.6 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Blackadder the 7th | Fri Oct 13 1989 12:15 | 4 |
| Ah..... a US pint is 16 fl oz. whereas a UK pint is 20!
Explains the weight diff.
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| 521.7 | | LESLIE::LESLIE | Blackadder the 7th | Fri Oct 13 1989 12:20 | 20 |
| I didn't mean "cut out favourite food permannently", but then again,
maybe I did.
The habits one gains over the years are the key to obesity - if your
favourite food was high in cholesterol and you were tested and shown to
be dangerously high in cholesterol, would you find it easier to cut
down or cut it out?
Having answered that question, we should realise that obesity is more
life-threatening than cholesterol, although they both go hand in hand
in assisting stuff like heart disease to kill us.
Personally, I'd prefer none to a tantalising taste. I always was a
more-ish person and if it tasted good - I had more!
A change of eating habits should be just that, in my opinion.
- Andy ��� Leslie
VMS CSSE Newbury
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| 521.8 | If you can control the portion, allowing a litle is okay | ATSE::BLOCK | Looking for Galt's Gulch... | Fri Oct 13 1989 18:41 | 26 |
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For some people, for some foods, it's definitely better to avoid
them completely. I used to be that way with sugar (in any form),
but over time I've found that I can have it once in a while, after
meals.
I think it's unrealistic to say "never eat it if it's bad for you."
This is the mindset that causes people to give up on diets, because
they feel deprived, either in everyday life or on social occasions.
Any slip is a major infraction; you're a failure, so you might as
well give up.
I agree wholeheartedly that it's necessary to learn proper eating
habits, rather than a diet, but that has to include being livable
(whatever that means to you).
Over the past 5 days, since I've been able to eat wheat, I've found
that I'm not thinking about food all the time, and I'm not hungry
very often. I think a lot of this is a result of the fact that I
no longer resent being unable to have things I want. I can look
at them and decide that I don't really want that now, since I know
it'll be there later when I really do. It's a liberating experience.
Beverly
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| 521.9 | | ANT::ZARLENGA | now I *have to* clean the house! | Fri Oct 13 1989 22:53 | 10 |
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Excellent base note, DELNI::BASSETT!
Myth: Exercise has to make you sweat.
Fact: Low intensity exercise, like walking at a slow pace will
burn a higher percentage of fat, than a high intensity
exercise, like running.
-mike z
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| 521.10 | | ANT::ZARLENGA | now I *have to* clean the house! | Fri Oct 13 1989 23:00 | 19 |
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.2> FACT: Diet and exercise go hand in hand. Overeating for the level of
.2> exercise you take is the single biggest reason for obesity.
Sort of. People who exercise regularly, have more flexible
metabolisms, they can eat even more extra calories than the amount
consumed by the exercise, and still not gain the extra calories
as weight.
.2> a quarter. Inordinate amounts of salt can cause other digestive
.2> illnesses.
Only people with kidney dysfunction ened worry about salt intake.
This has been discussed at length in either MEDICAL or HOLISTIC.
-mike z
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