Conference rocks::weight_control

Well, unless it's that system where you put the patch over your mouth, I
haven't heard of it. :-)

Where did you hear about this?

Jill who gets silly when she gets hungry and is spending her time reading
WEIGHTLOSS instead of eating the lunch she actually brought from home :-)

    Unfortunately Jill, the patch is not that big!  Well, I bought them,
    call me an explorer in the search to lose 20 pounds!  I tried them
    yesterday and I did do ok???!!! Got me.  I really wasn't hungry.
    I got them down at Slenderizers in Maynard.  $29.00...  Thats a
    patch a day for 31 days..... I figured I'd do it for 1.00 a day
    or less.....
    
    I'll let you know how it goes!
    
    nancy
    
    

Hi Nancy,

Did the patches come in a box?  Are there any "ingredients" listed or anything?
Are they supposed to curb your appetite?  (are they just a placebo?  You
can't get more natural than that!)  Do they seem to be doing anything yet?

What happens when you stop wearing them?

I'm sorry if I sound negative; if it works don't fight it, but I'm pretty
skeptical.  Even if a chemical reaction does take place and cause you to
lose weight somehow, you're still going to have to do something to keep it off
afterwards (or wear the patches forever...)

Maybe you should make a bigger patch yourself :-)

Jill

	Most likely these patches contain a transderm (through the skin)
    vehicle and an appetite suppressant.
    
    	If the appetite suppressant, by itself, is able to penetrate
    the skin, it would most likely be classified a drug and need FDA
    approval, and possibly be prescription-only.
    
    -mike z

    
    Yes, the patches work by releasing an appetite suppressant
    that is absorbed thru the skin.....much the same as the
    patches for people with heart problems like my father uses.
    
    I have a friend who has a friend who claims they have helped
    her.  I, myself, have not tried them, but if they can make
    patches with heart medication that work, then surely they
    can do the same with an appetite suppresant.  Like a previous
    reply, I'd like to know what's in them before using them! 
    
    		My
    

    I'm sorry that it's taken me soooo long to get back here to tell
    you more about these patches.
    
    A nurse I know took them to Emerson hospital to find out what was
    in them.... The results are that everything in it is all natural,
    (like some ingredients from plants, etc.).  This is why I got
    interested in it because every other diet pill I've ever tried makes
    me feel like I've had 75 cups of coffee!  I started these on Mon?
    I think it was Monday.... anyway believe it or not (and I am a skeptic
    also!) I really have not been hungry..... Yesterday I just had an
    orange and drank water and I was fine.  Actually I didn't think
    about food until around 4:00 and then I just made a salad and that
    was it.  Usually by 8:30 at night I'm in the kitchen trying to find
    something, but last night I didn't even think about it.
    
    How you use them is:
    
        You put a drop of the "formula" on the band-aid and a drop on
    your wrist (at the acupunture point which is on the palm side of
    your wrist, two finger breadths above the palm-wrist.)  You put
    it on 15 minutes before you have your first meal of the day, and
    leave it on all day and take it off before you go to bed.
              
    I'm not going to weigh myself until next Monday.  Hopefully, I
    will see something good.  I will just eat lightly and stay away
    from the fats and see what happens!
    
    I'll let you know!
    
    nancy
      

	Nancy, if you're eating as few calories as it seems, you may
    be setting yourself up for a hunger induced binge once you stop
    using this suppressant.
    
    -mike z

        If it works, I may never stop!!  Only kidding.  I try to eat
    something in the morning (fruit) and a salad at lunch.  Dinner is my 
    biggest problem.  Last night I had a MacDonalds salad and I was
    fine for the night!  Hopefully this will continue.....
    
    nancy
    

    I'd like to know what the ingredients are.  "Natural" is meaningless:
    caffeine is natural, as are such healthy things as arsenic, belladonna,
    and snake venom.  If there's something more than a placebo, I'd like to
    know just what it is.

    Beverly
    

And, I'm concerned about what you're eating, or more importantly, what you're
not eating.  As Mike said, you're not eating a whole lot of calories.

The patch may be taking away your hunger, but natural hunger is good, and is
there for a reason.  If you take it away you may not know that your body is
in need of nutrients.  You don't have to "starve yourself" to lose weight.

I don't recall ever being hungry while I was losing weight.  Yeah, I might
have bouts of missing my junk food, or wanting to eat more just because I
love to eat.  But that's why I don't feel appetite suppressants do a lot of
good in the long run (if at all).  I wasn't overweight due to "food hunger".

Take care of yourself,
Jill

    Where can you buy or acquire the patch ?
    

    I don't have the brochure with me now, but I will type in all the
    ingredients that are in it.  It's greek to me, but maybe somebody
    out there will recognize them.  All I can say about it is that I
    find that it's working for me.  I stop and think about what I'm
    going to eat and ask myself if I'm really hungry.... nine out of
    ten times I'm not hungry, so I'm not eating!  I love salads and
    fruit so this is what I've been eating during the day, plus tons
    of spring water.  The last few nights I've been eating a normal
    dinner.  
    
    You can get the patch at Slenderizers in Maynard (it used to be
    the old Kelly's bowling alley).  This is the only place that I know
    of..... 
    
    nancy
    

    You can also get the patch at just about ANY hair/beauty salon that
    is at all diversified.  I got my hair cut yesterday at a hair salon
    that has some kind of resistance(like the toning tables, I would
    guess) machine, and I overheard some of the hairdressers talking
    about the patch.  A hairdresser there had lost 30 lbs.
    
    Dee Dee

    	This is not a blanket endorsement just some personal experience.
        
    	I've been using the Patch (different company) with good results.
    	This is a very difficult time of the month for me - I get alot of
        cravings and am hungrier.  The Patch is definitely keeping this
        to a minimum.  (Definitely going to try the PMS Patch).
        Other people I've met are having even better results than that!
    
        I think of the Patch as an adjunct to good eating and exercise
        habits.  It has most certainly helped me.

        	The Patch is a hoemopathic solution applied to a acupuncture
    	point with a very small bandaid.  There are no artificial
    	chemicals.  I have many allergies and sensitivities to chemicals
    	and have no side effects what-so-ever.  I haven't heard of anyone
    	else having any side effects either.
    
    	If you would like either more information or want to purchase some
        (I know several people who sell it) please send me mail.  By the
        way, the company that makes this Patch also gurantees it.
    
    
    
    	Jayna
    	MSTIME::RABKE
    
    
    	Jayna
    

    
    
    	I'm not sure if this has been in your papers but the FDA has
    confisccated patches from one of the manufacturers.  The patches
    were not of the diet variety.  I've been on the phone w/ the FDA
    trying to determine what is going on.
    
    The FDA seized the patches because of the way that they were being
    promoted.  They were being promoted as being able to "cure" certain
    diseases (one was a patch that "cured" AIDS).  
    
    There are several DIET patches that the FDA is looking into as having
    drugs in them and therefore needing FDA approval.  I was looking
    for the particular patch that I use, which was not on that list,
    so did not remember any of the other companies.
    
    I was also told that the FDA is looking into the question of
    transdermal patches in general.  They are concerned about the way
    the substance is absorb by the body.  They have not determined if
    they pose any danger or not.
    
    I was also told that there is no patch that is currently approved
    by the FDA.
    
    
    	Jayna
    
    They

    RE: patches,  Does anyone have the name that these are sold under?
    Are they routinely available at most drug or health food stores?
    
    

  
    I wore the patch religiously for 3 weeks, developed a severe allergy
    to it.  I got a headache that got increasingly worse.  My friends
    told me I smelled of metel the whole time I wore the patch.  I lost
    1 pound. thats it. I didn't snack, and was not hungry so it worked in
    that aspect.  but the "stuff" in it didn't agree with my system.
    oh well, back to the books....
    
    vivian