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Conference rocks::weight_control

Title: Weight Loss and Maintenance
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Created:Mon Jul 09 1990
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:933
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284.0. "Fiber, sodium, and caffeine" by MSDOA1::MCMULLIN () Fri May 20 1988 07:55

    Let's try this again, I got disconnected while ago when I typed
    this!
    
    I have a few questions I thought some of you wonderful people might
    be able to answer for me:
    
    1.	Is it possible to have too much fiber in your diet?  If so,
    	are there any physical symptoms you should look for?
    
    2.	What should the daily fiber intake be?
    
    3.	What, besides fluid retention, is the long term effect of
    	too much sodium in your diet?
    
    4.  How much sodium is considered "safe" on a daily
    	basis?						

    5.  What is the maximum daily intake of caffeine that is "safe"?
    
    Any suggestions or answers will be greatly appreciated!
    
    Virginia

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284.1ANGORA::ZARLENGAGive me liberty or give me debtsFri May 20 1988 09:4043
.0>    1.	Is it possible to have too much fiber in your diet?  If so,
.0>	    	are there any physical symptoms you should look for?

    	Diarrhea and lack of energy are the two most common.  Diarrhea
    due to the presence of fiber in the intestinal tract and lack of
    energy from a diet that's too low in calories.

        
.0>    2.	What should the daily fiber intake be?
    
    	There is no RDA for fiber.  Most doctors will recommend anywhere
    from 5-15 grams per day, depending on the person's age and condition
    of health.

        
.0>    3.	What, besides fluid retention, is the long term effect of
.0>	    	too much sodium in your diet?
    
    	In sensitive people, high blood pressure.
    
    	Note that recent studies indicate that sodium may not be the
    culprit in high blood pressure.  The studies are inconclusive so
    far, but indicate that sodium chloride (salt) and not sodium is
    responsible.

        
.0>    4.  How much sodium is considered "safe" on a daily
.0>    	basis?						
    
    	There is no RDA for sodium, but the average human needs at least
    450 mg/day.  Up to 3300 mg/day is safe for most people.

    
.0>    5.  What is the maximum daily intake of caffeine that is "safe"?
    
    	There is no widely accepted "safe limit".  The Columbia
    Encyclopedia of Nutrition states "anyone consuming more than 8 cups
    of coffee (one or more grams of caffeine) would do well to reduce
    their intake".
    
    -mike z

284.2Very good ;-)34226::MCMULLINFri May 20 1988 11:256
    Thanks, Mike.  You answered my questions beautifully.  BTW, do you
    have the encyclopedia you referred to?  If so, where could I possibly
    find one?
    
    Virginia

284.3ANGORA::ZARLENGAGive me liberty or give me debtsFri May 20 1988 13:248
    	You can find "The Columbia Encyclopedia of Nutrition" at most
    major bookstores.  I bought it at Rhode Island College's bookstore,
    but since then I've seen it at Waldenbooks.
    
    	It's about $20 in hardcover.  Not available in paperback (yet).
    
    -mike z

284.4thanks againMSDOA1::MCMULLINFri May 20 1988 15:004
    Thanks again, Mike.  I'll look for the next time I'm at Waldenbooks.
    Sounds like a good book to have!!
    

284.5WORDS::KRISTYContents may be habit forming!Fri May 20 1988 15:215
    Weight Watchers recommends no more than 2 cups of caffeinated
    coffee/tea.  Caffeine is a natural appetite suppressant and more
    than 2 cups/day disallows a lot of the nutrients in the foods you
    eat to be absorbed by your body.

284.6No CaffeineSOFBAS::RHODESMon May 23 1988 10:224
    Caffeine is considered a "negative" substance and, like chocolate,
    refined sugar, alcohol, is best avoided.  Remember, caffeine is
    a drug.

284.7CSC32::G_MCINTOSHTouch not the cat, bot the glove!Mon May 23 1988 19:5838
    Virginia, caffeine was discussed pretty extensively on note 211.
    
    Re: Fiber...
    
    "Dietary fibers are nondigestible forms of complex carbohydrates.
    In fiber the chains of sugars are connected by linkages that are
    resistant to breakdown by the enzymes made by the digestive system.
    Fiber has been called roughage, bulk, residue, and simply bran.
    This natural plant product remains in the intestine after the fat,
    protein, digestible carbohydrate, water, vitamin and mineral components
    of the food have been digested and absorbed.  Some breakdown of
    dietary fibers caused by bacteria occurs in the large intestine.
    
    All animal products, including meat, poultry, dairy products, eggs,
    fish and shellfish, contain no fiber.  All unprocessed plant foods
    are high in dietary fiber.  At the end of the nineteenth century,
    modern roller mills began to produce large quantities of white flour,
    rather than the traditional whole wheat flouw, by removing the bran
    and the germ from wheat kernels.  Because most of the fiber in wheat
    is found in the bran covering, the mills were producing flour that
    was deficient in fiber.  A similar process converted whole brown
    rice into white rice.  At about the same time the diet of westerners
    was changing in other ways, all of which involved a greater emphasis
    on highly processed, rich, fiber-deficient foods.  Our modern diet,
    centered around animal foods and refined grains, often provides
    less than 10 grams of dietary fiber per day.  A starch centered
    diet can contain 60 grams or more."   So, 10 grams is too little,
    and 60 is probably at the high end.
    
    Re: salt...   McDougall says "We need as little as 50 milligrams
    of sodium per day from our diet.  One teaspoon of salt adds more
    than 2 grams of extra sodium to the diet.  Westerners consume on
    the average 5 grams of sodium per day."
    
    Glenn