Conference rocks::weight_control

    See note 6.9.

    The McDougall Plan by John McDougall M.D.   It's the only book.
    
    Glenn

    I don't remember who wrote it.

    Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution....Fantastic, although not a balanced
    diet, it is deliberately done that way for people like myself with
    an unbalanced matabolism.  I'm allerigic (or should I say my waist
    is allergic) to carbohydrates!  As I've stated in other notes, in
    the beginning, it is a 0 carbohydrate diet to start, but if you
    read the book, after initial weightloss, you started adding carbs
    back in until you maintain your weight, this is the amount you can
    intake to maintain, less to lose, go higher, and you will gain,
    but the diet is easy to follow, as there is no weighing of foods,
    or counting of calories, just carbohydrates, wich are on most labels,
    and you can eat all you want so you don't have to go hungry ever....
    
    A true believer
    
    Kim

    Would somebody care to help me?
    
    I have been trying to find some of the books mentioned in this
    notesfile with complete lack of success. Even though Swiss bookshops
    will carry the most common diet books (Dr. ATKINS, Beverly Hills
    Diet, etc...) none of them have books that appeal to what happens
    in your brain rather than in your stomach.
    
    If somebody would care to give me a cost estimate for the books
    in pocket edition plus postage to Switzerland, I'll gladly send
    them the money (beforehand, so you won't risk being out of pocket).
    
    I am interested in the following books:
    
    1) The Thin Book			Jeane Eddy Westin
    
    2) Feeding the Hungry Heart		Geneen Roth
    
    3) Breaking free from Compulsive Eating   idem
    
    If anybody can help, please let me know, either through this note
    or by mail to SHIRE::BIZE.
    
    I will be on vacation next week, but will answer any query as soon
    as I am back (or before, if I get an answer by Friday!)
    
    By the way, I'd be very happy to meet any of you noters visiting
    Geneva... just let me know!
    
    Regards,  Joana

    Thanks to several of you, who either send me the books or gave me
    the right information to order them, I now have (since this morning
    08:30 a.m. all the books I was looking for (namely: the Thin Book,
    feeding the Hungry Heart and Breaking Free from Compulsive Eating,
    refer to note 12.5) 
    
    Thank you very much, I'll let you know how the reading goes, and
    how it helps.
    
    Joana
    

    I have now finished reading the two Geneen Roth books, and would
    like to recommend them to all of you who haven't read them.
    
    The one I found most interesting was the second one "Breaking Free..."
    but the first one "Feeding the Hungry Heart", even though less
    directly useful, makes a good foundation for the second one.
    
    I was able to recognize myself in many of the situations as they
    describe children and adolescents problems, and it has helped me
    to better understand and "forgive" myself.
    
    I am half-way through the "Thin Book" and will let you know what
    I think.
    
    I have still to get "Fat is a feminist issue". Does anybody know
    if it was published in a pocket edition, and if yes, which? I have
    found a very good English bookshop in Geneva, but they will not
    order books unless the have the publisher's name!
    
    Joana      
    

    Susie Orbach
    
    	Fat is a Feminist Issue
    
    	published in paperback by	The Berkley Publishing Group
    					200 Madison Ave
    	ISBN 0-425-09920-2		New York, NY  10016

    Fit for Life...
    
    A great influence!    Love them Cauliflower Toasties!
    

    I've found a good book for dieting.  The food's good, cuts out
    everything that has fat in it.  The book is called "The Hip and
    Thigh Diet".  I don't know if it has been published in the States,
    but it has here in England.  It's a good help, I recommend it!

       	"The Food Book", Dell paperbacks, ISBN 0-440-52570-5, $9.95.
    
    	Billed as "the complete guide to the most popular brand name
    foods in the United States".
    
    	Lists calories, protein, carbohydrates, fat, sodium, cholesterol,
    fiber, vitamin A, vitamin C, thiamin, riboflavin, naicin, calcium,
    and iron contents.
    
    -mike z

    
    The Diet Alternative
    by
    Diane Hampton

    I bought a new book just this morning that I believe is the best
    I have seen on the subject because it is so complete.  It is called
    The Complete Book oF Food Counts by Corinne T. Netzer.  With all
    the concerns about cholesterol, fat, fiber, etc., this book lists
    all of these and more for over 8,000 items.  It includes basic generic
    foods, brand name foods and fast-food items.  Each items has a listing
    for serving size as well as calorie counts, carbohydrate grams,
    cholesterol milligrams, sodium milligrams, protein grams, fat grams
    and fiber grams.  Plus there is a conversion table for weight and
    capacity measures.  It is alphabetized for easy reference.  It is
    a paperback book and costs only $4.95.  I got it at the Paper Store
    in Maynard, but I'm sure it is available at many other stores. 
    Just thought some of you folks might be interested in knowing about
    this.  I hope I haven't repeated something from a previous note.
    
    When you lose you win :)
                            
    Lin
    

    I am trying to find the authors of two books mentioned in this topic.
    Can anyone help? The books are:
    
    	Fit For Life
    
    	Beyond Diet
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Pat

    Re: .14
    
    Pat -
    
    I'm not sure about Fit for Life -- I think the last name is Diamond.
    
    But Beyond Diet is by Martin Katahn, also author of The Rotation Diet.
    
    Catherine
    

    Fit for life is by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond.
    
    I heartily recommend it!!, I have gone from 200+ lbs down to 176 lbs in
    a relatively short time, without being a really good boy.
    
    There is also the Fit for Life cookbook by Marilyn Diamond.
    
    Both are published by Bantam Books

    Many of the theories in Fit for Life have no basis in science.
    
    Especially the part about food combinations.  That's been debunked
    by many people over the years.  Including me, in college.

    Mike,
    
    Science is not everything, maybe you don't think that this can work,
    but I was over 200 lbs for about 10 years.  Since starting on the basic 
    principles of Fit for Life I have managed to get down to what I think
    is approximately my ideal weight. 5'10�" 176 lbs.  This means that I'm
    back down to the weight I was before I started smoking (I gave up 11
    years ago).
    
    The principles that I try to keep too are:-
    
    Not mixing protein and starch.
    
    And when I have time, fruit in the morning.  It is either fruit or
    nothing.  I very rarely have either Tea or Coffee, but I do drink Hot
    Chocolate from the machine.
    
    As I said before, It works for me.  Like anything to do with weight
    loss, you have to find what suits you.  My friend chooses to count
    calories (very strictly), and he lost 135 lbs in a calendar year!!!.
    
    Cheers Ian...

    Some of the ideas are sound, eg: calorie reduction, but the rest
    is poppycock.
    
    Like not mixing protein and starch.  Purely fictional.

    
    
    
    
    Two books I found really helpful in teaching me how our body processes
    fats and why some people lose and others don't:
    
    	Fit or Fat? 
    	Fit or Fat? For Women
    	Target Diet
    
    All are by Covert Bailey (who invented the method of "dunking" to
    determine percent body fat).
    
    He's also got shows on PBS every once in awhile.  People don't always
    like his "style" but if you can get past that and listen to what he's
    saying, I think he's "right on."
    
    kath

    
    
    	I recently watched a video by him, "Fit or Fat".  Great information
    	very well presented. 
    
    	/acb
    

    Dr. Paul Donohue publishes a reducing report for $3 and a long, self-
    addressed, stamped (52 cents postage) envelope.
    
    Dr. Donohue - No. 27
    Box 5539
    Riverton, NJ 08077
    
    (Dr. Donohue writes a syndicated column in the Providence Journal)

    
    
    As promised Karen, just a few books that I've read. (I think this is a
    little more appropriate place then in the Dave Maynard Diet)
    
    The 10% Solution for a Healthy Life  -  Raymond Kurzweil  (very good)
 *  Diet for a Small Planet		 -  Frances Moore Lappe
 *  Diet for a New America		 -  John Robbing
 *  The Vegetarian Handbook		 -  Gary Null
    
    Eat more, weigh less		 -  Dean Ornish (next on my reading
    					    list, although I have read alot
    					    about him in other articles
    					    etc.)
    
    There are two very good books I've read from the Library, I'll have to
    check out the bookstore, for the exact titles and authors.  One was
    about the new four food groups.  Both books have been recently
    published and were very good.  
    
    I have to say, that I don't always agree with everything that I read (I
    still eat dairy products), but it does give you a different perspective
    and something to think about, and maybe some lifestyle changes that
    will work for you.  I am finding a healthy lifestyle that I can live
    with for me, a balance between diet and exercise.  Up until the past
    couple years I have always been overweight, now I'm in shape and about
    the right weight and want to stay that way... HEALTHY.  I've tried hard
    to shake the diet mentality, 'cause it just doesn't work a healthy
    low-fat approach with enough calories and exercise will take you alot
    farther.  I definately believe in preventative maintenance rather than 
    fix the symptoms with drugs and doctors, so I plan on trying my best to
    stay healthy. 
    
    Just a quick note on food combining I did browse a couple of the books
    last night and the concensus is that if you are eating a well balanced
    diet with variety MOST people don't have to pay such close attention to
    food combining.  Also as an aside, if you are eating enough calories,
    it is very hard for the diet to be deficient in protein, unless loaded
    with empty calories.
    
    Karen, the books with * I have, if you would like I could bring them in
    for you to look at or read.
    
    Best health to you all,
    
    Laurie O   

    
    
    As promised, two more books...
    
    Food for Life			- Neal Barnard M.D.
    The Super Pyramid Eating Program	- Dr. Gene Spiller
    
    
    
    LO