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Title:Working for Digital in the UK
Notice:DIGITAL Stock quote: $35 1/8 on 10/01 at 18:04 eastern.
Moderator:WOTVAX::HILTONo.dec.com::hiltong
Created:Thu Sep 10 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1443
Total number of notes:35591

1415.0. "PCM internal use?" by WOTVAX::HILTON (Save Water, drink beer) Tue Apr 01 1997 11:52

    Do we still use Polycenter Console Manager internally?
    
    If so who would I contact to see if they could show it in use to BT on
    Thursday in DECpark?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
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1415.1KERNEL::COFFEYJLa Feline Flooz - a unix catTue Apr 01 1997 13:1310
The PCM engineering chappies are no longer in dec park, 
there's some over in Israel now apparently. 

I would suggest customer reference sites are like ly to 
be more  impressive than ours (I'm not aware of any 
large setups in the area internally) but BT would d have
been the customer I would d havee suggested since they 
seem to log more console manager calls :-) 

sorry... not much help
1415.2WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerTue Apr 01 1997 13:293
    Do IS not use it internally then? They used too...
    
    Greg
1415.3see node 798 in NOTED::POLYCENTERCOMICS::CORNEJWhat's an Architect?Tue Apr 01 1997 13:436
    PCM is one of the products sold (?) to CA. 
       
    I'm sure it is used internally - but those who use it may not have
    heard of Notes these days :-(
    
    Jc
1415.4Possible contactsWOTVAX::MILESPPeter MilesTue Apr 01 1997 14:5511
PCM was part of the toolset implemented across IS in Europe for internal 
systems. I don't know whether PCM is still in use but don't see how the Unix 
and VMS system can be remotely managed without it. 
UK system management was all done from Newbury.

Possible contacts to ask are:
- Murray Smith (UK CCS Infrastructure manager)
- Peter Hardy (European tools responsibility)
- Clive Little, the UK OMS delivery manager @NEW


1415.5KERNEL::COFFEYJLa Feline Flooz - a unix catTue Apr 01 1997 15:452
Oh and csc32::consolemanager might be some help.. 

1415.6CHEFS::RAVENTue Apr 01 1997 18:0116
PCM is still used by the Command and Control Center in REO.
We use PCM to manage systems in the U.K. and Ireland.

We currently run PCM on a Unix environment. 

Now the Gotcha ....It's got to be one of the most unstable products I use.

It constantly core dumps in Unix, and we currently have a project running to
update and fix some of the problems we are having with PCM.
If I remember we are running V1.6 with a echo patch.

As a systems manager who has used VCS from day one and Also PCM from day one, VCS
still wins as far I'm concerned.....But who am I to judge our ex products !

K.R.

1415.7TACOS::PULLANRTue Apr 01 1997 18:124
    Kevin, you're so picky. Just reboot the unix box before you wish to use
    it and every 5 minutes until you have finished with it.
    
    Rich.
1415.8BBPBV1::WALLACEjohn wallace @ bbp. +44 860 675093Tue Apr 01 1997 19:581
    Are you sure those aren't the Microsoft instructions?
1415.9HERON::BARKERCareful with that AXP EugeneWed Apr 02 1997 08:407
re .8

>    Are you sure those aren't the Microsoft instructions?

No. Microsoft instructions would also require re-installation of the product.

Nigel
1415.10SBPEXE::OTTENDavid Otten @REO - 830 3044Wed Apr 02 1997 10:436
    We use it under VMS.. Decwindows and character cell interface..
    
    It doesn't crash that often..
    
    
    David
1415.11OMS in HHL.CHEFS::TREVENNOR_AA child of initWed Apr 02 1997 11:167
    Greg,
    	  Contact the OMS folks in HHL. They are (I think) using it on a
    multimedia server system which we host for BT in London office. Andy
    Williams might be th right contact.
    
    Regards
    Alan T.
1415.12CHEFS::RAVENWed Apr 02 1997 13:0814
;       <<< Note 1415.10 by SBPEXE::OTTEN "David Otten @REO - 830 3044" >>>
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;    We use it under VMS.. Decwindows and character cell interface..
;    
;    It doesn't crash that often..
;    
;    
;    David


David,
      Sounds like you have just stepped forward to do the Demo?

K.R. :-)
1415.13SBPEXE::OTTENDavid Otten @REO - 830 3044Wed Apr 02 1997 16:556
    Rule number one.
    
    Never volunteer.
    
    
    David
1415.14COMICS::CORNEJWhat&#039;s an Architect?Wed Apr 02 1997 16:596
    Rule number two.
    
    Never appear in a notes conference sounding like an expert :-)
    
    Jc
    
1415.15WOTVAX::HILTONSave Water, drink beerWed Apr 02 1997 17:333
    Rule number three
    
    Will someone please volunteer to help me out!