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Title:	Hudson VLSI
Notice:	For Digital Chip Data - CHIPBZ::PRODUCTION$:[DS_INFO...]
Moderator:	RICKS::PHIPPS

Created:	Wed Feb 12 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	701
Total number of notes:	4658

677.0. "VMS support for AlphaPC??" by MUNICH::REIN (How come holes in SWISS CHEESE??) Fri Apr 11 1997 10:56

    Hallo,
    
    I work in the Openvms Group  and a customer has a question
    about wether he can run VMS on an Alpha PC.
    
    I asked him for the model and he was telling, that he has something
    like a A230U-AA.
    
    I looked around and found a pointer to a XL266 CPU.
    
    Openvms release_notes say, that ALPHA 21064A PCI board and ALPHAPC64
    board is supported by VMS, but I dont find a reference, weather 
    XL266 is a Alpha21064A or so...
    
    So knows anyone a little bit more??
    
    kind regards
    
    Volker

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
677.1	If this is an XL266 ...	WRKSYS::INGRAHAM	Andy	`Fri Apr 11 1997 12:20`	5
	The Alpha XL* models are intended to be NT only. Digital Unix and VMS support is not present in the ROM. While other forms of Unix (such as Linux) may work, there aren't any other brands of VMS, so VMS will not run on an Alpha XL*.
677.2		STAR::KLEINSORGE	Fred Kleinsorge, OpenVMS Engineering	`Fri Apr 11 1997 14:13`	4
	It's only a ROM away. Sigh.
677.3		NPSS::NEWTON	Thomas Newton	`Fri Apr 11 1997 15:55`	19
	> It's only a ROM away. Sigh. As you probably already know, the real problem is our business practices, which are almost 180 degrees out of touch with the horizontal computer industry model that Andy Grove describes in "Only The Paranoid Survive". I had someone tell me in another Notes conference that > Digital Unix on the > desktop as a mass market OS was never really an option and we've done > ---------- > everything in the past few years to make sure that it never happened. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > It never will (believe me, I'm one of the reviewers of the corporate > tech-strategy) Yes, we've got to do everything in our power to keep those pesky customers from giving us their money!
677.4		ZUR01::SUTTER	Who are you ??? - I'm BATMAN !!!	`Fri Apr 11 1997 16:45`	9
	Digital UNIX V4.0C will support the Digital Personal Workstation 433au and 500au. The 433a <-> 433au difference are SCSI/graphic options that are supported on Digital UNIX. So I suppose Digital UNIX will run on these machines soon! Regards, Arnold
677.5		STAR::KLEINSORGE	Fred Kleinsorge, OpenVMS Engineering	`Fri Apr 11 1997 16:55`	10
	You lost me there. The Miata/MX5 will be supported by Digtal UNIX, there is no SROM issue. VMS will support this system as soon as the HW product management let's us (they want VMS to soak up the excess 255 inventory first). But I didn't think that the XL was the Miata. I thought the XL was an Avanti clone where the SROM has a bad attitude about the SRM console. _Fred
677.6		WRKSYS::INGRAHAM	Andy	`Fri Apr 11 1997 17:26`	5
	Digital Unix will run on most Alpha workstations ... but not the XL* ones. The Alpha chips were priced considerably lower if put into boxes that wouldn't run Digital Unix or VMS.
677.7	ah yes the cripple the product strategy	TROOA::MSCHNEIDER	[email protected]	`Fri Apr 11 1997 19:13`	11
	Yes and we've managed to conquer the workstation market with that enlightened approach! ;^) Hey maybe we can turn the excess AlphaStation 255s into an AlphaServer mumble like we did with the excess AlphaStation 250s, now the AlphaServer 300. Maybe we need to fix our product forecasting problem another way rather than letting our VMS customers clean up our problem. 8-(