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Conference ricks::dechips

Title:Hudson VLSI
Notice:For Digital Chip Data - CHIPBZ::PRODUCTION$:[DS_INFO...]
Moderator:RICKS::PHIPPS
Created:Wed Feb 12 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:701
Total number of notes:4658

488.0. "EV56 is announced" by ROCK::BANNON () Tue Mar 05 1996 10:44

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488.121164/400 - another well-hidden Digital secretGEMGRP::GROVETue Mar 05 1996 11:0010
488.2thanks... i'll check...CRONIC::semi3.hlo.dec.com::notesthe storyteller makes no choice...Tue Mar 05 1996 11:183
488.321164-366 SPECfp92 estimate lower than 8400 5/350 SPECfp92 ?MINNY::usr12.zuo.dec.com::DOLDERThe future isn't what it used to beTue Mar 05 1996 12:467
488.4SMURF::MENNERi'm gonna plant a weeEEping willow...Tue Mar 05 1996 17:422
488.5What would be the point of estimating to 2 decimal places ?KAMPUS::NEIDECKEREUROMEDIA: Distributed Multimedia ArchivesWed Mar 06 1996 03:386
488.6OSF/1 -> UNIX(tm)NAMIX::jptFIS and ChipsWed Mar 06 1996 06:4521
488.7LANDO::OBRIENGive it a TRIWed Mar 06 1996 11:1611
488.8WRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyWed Mar 06 1996 11:456
488.9AMCFAC::RABAHYdtn 471-5160, outside 1-810-347-5160Wed Mar 06 1996 12:561
488.10We are debugging one here...KAMPUS::NEIDECKEREUROMEDIA: Distributed Multimedia ArchivesThu Mar 07 1996 02:421
488.11Talk is cheap. We deliver.PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu Mar 07 1996 07:4316
488.12Tuesday?SAYER::ELMOREthrough the looking glassThu Mar 07 1996 10:276
488.13QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centThu Mar 07 1996 11:473
488.14what EV56 systems were announced?NPSS::WATERSI need an egg-laying woolmilkpig.Thu Mar 14 1996 11:163
488.15QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centThu Mar 14 1996 11:514
488.16YIELD::HARRISThu Mar 14 1996 12:5610
488.17"Unprecidented Performance for the Desktop"PERFOM::LICEA_KANEwhen it's comin' from the leftThu Mar 14 1996 17:2615
488.18Bret SPEC is 11.3 int, 14e fpI4GET::HENNINGThu Mar 21 1996 21:5718
488.19A or not an AULYSSE::REVEMANScan his brain, it must be there somewhere...Fri Apr 05 1996 05:056
488.20WRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyFri Apr 05 1996 09:195
488.21QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Apr 05 1996 09:495
488.22WREATH::SNIDERBecause that's the way it IS!Fri Apr 05 1996 10:0713
488.23EV5 and EV56 machines are both sold at 366 MHz tooNPSS::WATERSI need an egg-laying woolmilkpig.Fri Apr 05 1996 10:346
488.24SOAK2::nethCraig NethFri Apr 05 1996 10:364
488.25EI_STATLANDO::OBRIENGive it a TRIFri Apr 05 1996 12:4213
488.26WRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyFri Apr 05 1996 13:034
488.27WRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyFri Apr 05 1996 13:075
488.28PCBUOA::KRATZFri Apr 05 1996 13:572
488.29re .28 Uhu ??FRIXEU::OLOBARDIMarco - E&RT Prod Mgr - ItalyTue Apr 09 1996 09:327
488.30WRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyTue Apr 09 1996 09:4311
488.31What he said ;-) (a lot better than I did)PCBUOA::KRATZTue Apr 09 1996 15:161
488.32NYOSS1::MONASCHI wrote the DECmate gamesFri May 10 1996 10:597
488.33Yup. It stinksWRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyFri May 10 1996 12:568
488.34Ignore byte/word - that's the ticket... ;-(GEMEVN::GLOSSOPAlpha: Voluminously challengedFri May 10 1996 13:005
488.35DECCXL::OUELLETTETo err is human, to moo bovineFri May 10 1996 13:555
488.36Party Line?XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon May 13 1996 15:1023
488.37When is a 21164 not a 21164?XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringMon Feb 03 1997 11:3677
::What it boils down to, is this:  Digital Semiconductor made a decision.
::EV56 is NOT a different generation.  It's just an EV5 with a faster clock
::cycle time.

   That's right, it's not a different generation.  It is, however,
   a different member of the family, one with unique characteristics,
   characteristics that need to be uniquely identified to customers,
   engineers, etc...

:   We (programmers, system builders, and custoemrs) have to be able to
:   tell the two apart, because no matter what the folks at DS say, the
:   EV5 and EV56 are different.  (Because I suspect we're going to wear
:   some egg for this decision otherwise, it would be very useful to hear
:   the party line around this particular decision.)

   Well, the first `egg' arrived here this morning...

   Quoting the customer question:

}Which Alpha (server)  models uses this ev56 CPU
}
}1    1000A           300 MHz?   333 MHz?  400 MHz???
}
}2    2000/2100A      250 MHz?   300 MHz?  (375 MHz???)
}
}3    4000/4100       All ????????????????????

   I looked in the SOC and -- guess what -- they're all listed as the
   `21164'.  Argh.

   --
/*
//  ALPHA_IMPLVER_AMASK_FEATURES.C
//  Retrieve the Alpha microprocessor family and features
//
//  Author: Steve Hoffman, Digital Equipment Corporation
//  [email protected], 16-Jan-1997.
//
//  DEC C V5 and later under OpenVMS. 
//  Also operates under DEC C on Digital UNIX V4.0 and later.
//
//  See the Alpha Architecture Reference Manual for the current
//  microprocessor family codes, as well as the instruction set
//  extension definition codes.
*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <c_asm.h>
main()
    {
    int implver = asm("implver %r0;");
    int amask = asm("amask %a0,%r0;", -1 );
    int definedbits = 0;

    printf("Alpha Microprocessor Family:\n");
    /*
    //  The "microprocessor family" includes the named microprocessor,
    //  and various microprocessors (if any) derived from it.
    */
    printf("  DECchip 21%1.1d64 or variant\n", implver );
    printf("  (EV%1.1d microprocessor core)\n", implver + 4 );

    /*
    //  The bit is *clear* if the capability is *present*...
    */
    printf("Alpha extensions available:\n");
    if ( !~amask ) printf("  none.\n");
    definedbits |= 1L<<0;
    if ( ~amask & 1L<<0 ) printf("  byte-word, et al.\n");
    definedbits |= 1L<<1;
    if ( ~amask & 1L<<1 ) printf("  square root, et al.\n");
    definedbits |= 1L<<8;
    if ( ~amask & 1L<<8 ) printf("  Audio and video, et al.\n");
    if ( ~amask & ~definedbits ) printf("  Unknown capability bit present.");
    return 1;
    }