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34.1 | | SUBURB::GLOVERP | Tangled Mothballs | Thu Nov 30 1989 08:55 | 5 |
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WOW!!
Phil.
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34.2 | | PEKING::NASHD | | Fri Dec 01 1989 07:26 | 3 |
| My thoughts exactly, Phil.
Dave
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34.3 | More... | CLOSUS::J_BUTLER | Leave it better than you found it... | Tue Dec 05 1989 21:53 | 15 |
| Also, the 8-inch howitzer can fire nuclear projectiles (the assembly
of the old round really isn't so bad once you practice a bit), chemical
rounds (pretty good coverage, too), scatterable mines, and Improved
Conventional Munitions (ICM -- 'bomblets'). 'Bout the only thing
it doesn't fire is illumination! The accuracy is phenomenal.
Recently, the 8-inch howitzer has been replaced in the Active Duty
Division Artilleries with the MLRS ('Multiple Locket-RauncherS'),
but it has been retained in the National Guard.
It's an impressive weapon. When targeting is provided by EW (Electronic
Warfare) assets it can deliver a 'bolt out of the blue' first-round
Fire-For-Effect mission that will REALLY get your attention!
John B.
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34.4 | correct me if I'm wrong | MPGS::MCCLURE | Why Me??? | Wed Dec 06 1989 16:37 | 7 |
| re .0
Ok, I know there is another model of the 8 inch that is armored,
with the gun enclosed. Is there any difference in the capabilities
of the cannon? Incidentally, this model is used by other NATO
countries, as I recall a unit at Grafenwoher as Royal Horse Artillery.
Bob Mc
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34.5 | Could be an M109 | AKOV12::LORENTZEN | | Wed Dec 06 1989 20:12 | 15 |
| There is a ballistic shield which may be attached to the M110A2 which
provides the crew some protection from small arms fire and shrapnel.
It's not really armor and wouldn't help much with a direct hit from any
kind of heavier weapon.
The modification does not alter the function or specification of the
gun.
There is another self-propelled (SP) howitzer which was designed with
an armored enclosure. It's much newer than the 8" M110 and is
designated the M109. It's a 155mm system and is in much wider use than
the 8". I've seen a lot of them but never got closer than 10 or 15
feet so don't know much about them.
Len
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34.6 | AK47,UZI,MP5 | PEKING::NASHD | Whatever happened to Capt. Beaky? | Tue Dec 12 1989 13:25 | 7 |
| A few weapons I've heard about, seen on TV or read about;
has anyone fired the AK47, or an Uzi or the H & K MP5?
What are they like to shoot, disassemble, reassemble, clean, carry?
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34.7 | | SAC::PHILPOTT_I | Col I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' Philpott | Tue Dec 12 1989 13:50 | 30 |
| I own an Uzi (and a MAC 10) - both are in an army armory in Manchester at the
moment.
The Uzi is solid, reliable, easy to field maintain and highly over-rated. The
micro-Uzi derivative (looks like a pistol, 'wire' front grip and a cyclic rate
of 1250 rounds per minute - favourite toy of the US Secret Service) is what the
Uzi should have been...
I've fired various types of AK47 variant (including the Valmet civilian hunter
based on the AK action). It was good in its day, but is getting long in the
tooth - the ammo is underpowered also. The Israeli Galil is probably the best
derivative. Certainly more forgiving (recoil wise at least) than the SLR. The
Galil has been called a rifle designed for soldiering: the bipod doubles as
a fore-grip and incorporates a wire cutter. The rifle also incorporates a
bottle opener (since soldiers were observed using the trigger guard to open
beer bottles...)
The MP5 is one of the best machine pistols around. Accurate, moderate recoil,
reliable (both mechanically and jam free) and fairly light. Favourite weapon of
Manchester Chief Constable Anderton incidentally... Personally prefer the
Walther, but only because all H&K weapons chew the brass. The flip of this is
that the MP5 is extremely jam resistant, even with very dirty ammo.
Of the Off the shelf weapons today I'd choose the H&K G3 (especially the sniper
variant) as my service rifle, the MP5 for a combat smg if I'm in a vehicle, but
I prefer the micro-Uzi when working in mufti (concealable) or for house sweeping
(very portable). For a hand gun I'll stick with the Sig-Sauer P226 (Known as
the P6 in military trim).
/. Ian .\
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34.8 | I like VALMET, want to buy L1A1 also! | EEMELI::SALMINEN | TroubleSHOOTER Hannu | Mon Nov 25 1991 15:16 | 43 |
| > has anyone fired the AK47, or an Uzi or the H & K MP5? <
> What are they like to shoot, disassemble, reassemble, clean, carry?<
During my military service in Finnish Defense Forces I used
VALMET assault rifle in 7.62x39 caliber. I liked the weapon,
because it worked in any condition (e.g -30 degrees centigrade
in snow and dirt). It is based in the Kalashnikov action, but
somewhat more precisely machined.
Kalashnikov-style assault rifles are extremely easy to
field strip and clean up, we trained to field strip and
assembly them with eyes closed and tied - 25 seconds.
About to carry it - well, after 30 kilometres skiing I felt
it too heavy with other equipment we had to carry!!
VALMET is more expensive than Chinese or Hungarian Kalashnikovs,
so when buying an own one I chose an Hungarian Kalashnikov. I've
been shooting it every now and then, mostly I like to shoot my
sniper rifle, but sometime I want to keep my basic skills with
this automatic also.
Last sunday I was in army training range shooting my Kalashnikov
using a pistol scope mounted over the barrell - it is easier in
fast shooting than "normal" rifle scopes. The accuracy was not
as good as my friends AR-15 heavy barrell version, but on the
other hand I think Kalashnikov is more reliable in field condition.
I'm interested in buying a L1A1 rifle, could you give me address
for some English dealer, and price estimation?
Regards, Hannu
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