Conference repair::reserve_forces

    USAR - United States Army Reserve. There are also the Navy, Marine
           Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard Reserve. These are under
           direct control of the federal government.
    
    ARNG - Army Reserve National Guard. Also an Air National Guard. These
           units are under the control of the individual states, but their
           training is supervised(?) by the federal government. I am not
           aware of any naval or marine forces under state control.

    Just to clear up possible confusion...
    
    USAR - United States Army Reserve
    USAFR - United States Air Force Reserve
    
    ARNG - Army Reserve (?) National Guard
    ANG - Air National Guard
    
    The way things were arranged in .1 could lead some people to believe
    that everything falls under the Army which, of course, is not the
    case.
    
    I don't want to speak for Navy and Coast Guard as to their proper
    titles. 
                                 
    Jane
    

    Ok, lets have some from this side of the pond:
    
    RAuxAF	Royal Auxiliary Air Force
    		This is for the part-time members of the Royal Air Force.
    		
    TA		Territorial Army
    		For part-time members of the army.
    
    Rock-ape	Member of the RAF or RAuxAF Regiment
    
    Terrier	Member of TA.
    
    MHU		Maritime Headquarters Unit.	These folks operate
    		the operations rooms, intelligence centres etc. 
    		During a typical 2 week exercise all the movements of
    		aircraft would be monitored and controlled by these
    		units.
    
    SAS	/ SBS	I add these because of their reputation, I assume no
    		further explanation is necessary.
    
    Rhino	Term of endearment for a Royal Marine Commando, to be
    		used with caution!
    
     

    Oh yes, nicknames 8-).
    
    Infantry - Legs, Grunts, Gravel Agitators, Bush Beaters
    Armor - Treadheads
    Artillery - RedLegs, Tube Jockeys
    Special Forces - Green Beanies, Snake Eaters
    Navy - Squids
    Air Force - Birdmen
    Marines - Leathernecks, Sea Going Bellhops

    Mr Nash was confused by mention of the staff sections in an
    introductory note. These are the Army staff sections, I know that
    there are equivalents in the other services. I just don't know
    their designations.
    
    (S & G denote the command level. S is used below Divison, G above)
    
    S1/G1 - Personnel and Administration
    S2/G2 - Intelligence/Security
    S3/G3 - Plans/Operations (responsible for training in peacetime)
    S4/G4 - Logistics
    S5/G5 - Public Affairs (not found below Brigade)
    
    In non-operational higher level commands, these functions get split
    into 'offices' and are directed by 'Deputy Chiefs of Staff'. Such as;
    
    DCSPER - Deputy Chief of Staff, Personnel
    DCSRM - Resource Management (Finance, Pay and Budget)
    DCSLOG - Logistics
    .
    .
    .

    Re all:
    
    Ok, let's see if I can contribute a few from a sailor's point of
    view....
    
    Airedale - a Naval aviator
    Bubblehead - a submariner
    Gator Sailor - a sailor who does amphibious ops
    Gator Freighter - any amphibious ship
    Gummie - A Naval Security Group person
    Jarhead - US Marine
    Doggie - US Army person (short for "dogface")
    Zoomie - US Air Force person who flies
    Bus Driver - US Air Force person who doesn't fly (because of uniform
    - looks like what Greyhound bus drivers wear)
    Hummer - E-2 Hawkeye/C2 Greyhound Aircraft
    Hoover - S3 Viking ASW aircraft
    Scooter - A4 Skyhawk aircraft
    
    Some acronyms:
    
    IRR - Individual Ready Reserve
    NRPC - Naval Reserve Personnel Center
    AMCC - Ashore Mobile Contingency Communications
    ATCU - Air Transportable Communication Unit
    NAVTELCOM - Naval Telecommunications Command
    NAVSECGRU - Naval Security Group (also NSGA)
    
    I'm sure I'll think of some others as I go along....
    
    Mark
    RMC USNR

    GRUNT = Ground Replacement (usually) UN-Trained
            ^      ^                     ^^ ^
            G      R                     UN T
    
    Also, for USAF types = Zoomies, and Wind Force!  :)
    
    John B.

    Hummm, well not much different ...

         Grunt.. any Marine
         Groundpounder .. Army
         Boonie Rat .. Anyone who spent too much time humpin a ruck
                       in the Nam jungle. 
         SEAL   SEa Air Land, short for US NAVY Special Forces
         RECON  Marine version of Navy SEAL 
               (ARMY has group they call this but is not full SF qualified)
         SBU   Special Boat Unit ( Usually a PBR {Patrol Boat River} unit
                                  but also has other special boats for
                                  inland Special Forces ops. Sometimes 
                                  Known as SDV {Special Delivery Vehicle}
         NIS   Naval Investigative Service ( NAVY's version of the FBI)
         CID   Army Criminal investigation Division (Equivalent to NAVY NIS)
         MSCO  Military Sealift Command (usually followed by major port
                                         abbreviation IE "UK" for London)
         NSC   Naval Control of Shipping.  (Directs all merchant shipping
                                            During emergencies and wartime)
         NRNS  Naval Reserve Naval Station ( Reserve augment group assigned 
                                             to Mobilize to a major Naval
                                             base in time of emergency or
                                             war)
         SURDIV XXX  Naval Surface Division ( Designated Surface group)   

    Here are few others from the Navy side:
    
    Snipe - 	Engineering rates (Electrician's Mate, Engineman, Boiler
    	    	Tech.)
    Boats - 	Bosun's Mate (complimentary)
    Deck Ape - 	Bosun's Mate (uncomplimentary)
    Anchor Clanker - Same as above
    Knuckle Dragger - Same as above
    FUBAR - F***ed Up Beyond All Repair
    FUBAR - F***ed Up By A Radioman (uncomplimentary)
    Skivvy Waver - Signalman
    Skivvy Counter - Storekeeper
    
    Sorry, Bob....I tried to come up with an equal number of
    uncomplimentary nicknames for Radiomen but that was the best I could
    do! :) :) :)
    
    Mark
    RMC USNR

    RE .9 Ya ya We've all heard that one before....
          Actually we were proud to be called Deck Apes
          But wile were at it

     Scope Dope..... Radarman
     Ping Ding ..... Sonarman
     Sparks    ....  Radioman  ( complimentary )
     (aren't you ashamed I remembered this instead of you)
     Black gang .... Below deck Engineering rates
     Tin Can (Sailor).. Destroyer type ships
     Fresh Air Snipe .. Welders and ship fitter Engineering rates that
                        got to do a lot of work topside above main deck
     Flat top...... Boot camp hair cut, Aircraft carrier
     Pig Boat ..... Submarine.
     Right Arm rates.. The seven above deck rates from WW II 
     Ditty bag .... the container for your wash gear
     MAA      ... Master At Arms   Ships Police force
     Lucky Bag .. Where your loose unatended gear wound up with the MAA
                  and you had to buy it back....
    
                                        Bob B

    Lets not forget redcaps and snowdrops. Both reflect the colour of
    the caps worn by Military Police in the Army and RAF. I don't know
    about the navy.
    
    Dave

    On the Divisional level or on the ARCOM (Army Reserve Command) level
    you will find these directorates which use the same name as the
    person heading it - Deputy Chief of Staff for *******
    
    DCSLOG     - pronounced deslog - Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics
    DCSRM      - pronounced desrem or rem - Deputy Chief of Staff for
    			Resource Management
    DCSPERS    - pronounced despers - Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel
    DCSIM      - pronounced desem - Deputy Chief of Staff for Information
    			Management (MIS)
    DCST       - pronounced destee - Deputy Chief of Staff for Training
    DCSOPS     - pronounced desops - Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations
    
    Bill
    
    
    
    

        
        
        One glaring omission from this topic,;
        
        RNR		Royal Naval Reserve.
        		
        		Still alive and kicking and sweeping mines.
        
        
        Also remember that the SENIOR SERVICE is the RN.
        
        Ed
        RNR
        
        

    
    �         Also remember that the SENIOR SERVICE is the RN.
    
    Only because in the days of Alfred the Great people served in the army
    out of a sense of duty but had to be bribed or pressed to serve in the
    navy.
    
    :-)
    
    /. Ian .\

    Re .13:
    
    Glad to see some seagoing representation from the other side of
    the pond!
    
    I was very impressed with the RNR people I met while in Greenock,
    Scotland in '85 on an exercise. As we say in the USNR, they were
    "very squared away".
    
    The best thing though were the British midrats. For you non-Navy
    types, "midrats" is a US Navy term for midwatch rations. The midwatch
    runs from 0001 to 0800 (known in other services as the graveyard
    shift perhaps). You can get awful hungry at 0200 so the Brits very
    kindly had their mess set up to cater to us hungry Yanks with all
    kinds of goodies.
    
    I really enjoyed the Endex party - it was fun!
    
    Regards,
    
    Mark
    RMC USNR

    In the traditions note, Dustie wanted to know what BTW meant.
    
    By The Way.
    
    There are lots of abbreviations being used in notes files, that 
    casual users might not understand. We all should make an effort 
    to explain an abbreviation/acronym/slang reference before using
    it.
    
    IMO
    
    IMO/IMHO (in my [honest] opinion)

    US Navy achronyms can always be a source of amusement.
    
    Here's a quote from my reserve squadron's January Plan of the Month:
    
    	"COMNAVRESFOR is working closely with NAVRESPERSCEN, NAVMILPRESCOM,
         and NAVFINCEN to resolve ..."
    
    
    Dick Aiken
    VP-92
    USNR-R

    I agree, I was confronted with the achronyms for the various Naval
    North Atlantic commands on one exercise. The easier ones were CINCLANT,
    COMSUBLANT and CINCLANT from what I can remember. But there were some
    real beauties with a dozen or so letters that I couldn't pronounce
    let alone remember.

A few more Navy "references" that I didn't seee along the way.  Some are 
merely monickers, others are derogatory (as much military humor is based 
upon poking fun at your shipmates)

Flange head - Machinist mate
Stew burner - Commisary man
Knuckle dragger - Boatswains mate
Twidget - ET (could also be FT or CT)
C--T - Another name for previous group
Shanker Mech - Corpsman (spelling on purpose)
White hat - enlisted person

There's more, just can't remember now

    Re .19:
    
    Senior Chief:
    
    Let's not forget the other nickname by which the Docs are
    known...."P***er Checker"! :-) :-)
    
    Mark
    RMC USNR

    I'll probabily regret asking but...........
        what does FWIW stand for, I've seen a couple of people use it
    in this file.
    
    also some more:
    
    APC = armored personnel carrier, or in our case M113's
    PIG = what treadheads call APC's because unlike their mobile
          pill boxes, our PIGS (normally) float and don't get stuck
          in mud like tanks.
    LBE = according to the ARMY Load Bearing Equipment, (belt,suspenders,
          ammo pouches etc), I use it for LEAD BY EXAMPLE
    TEWT = again the ARMY uses TRAINING EXERCISE WITHOUT TROOPS,
           normally ends up as TRAINING EXERCISE WITHOUT THOUGHT
    
          

    Re .21:
    
    I'm from the old (1970) Army and I was a Signal Corps type (later
    ended up in the Navy Reserve but that's another story)....so a question:
    
    I presume a "treadhead" is a tanker?
    
    FWIW = For What It's Worth
    
    BTW = By The Way
    
    IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
    
    I agree with you....somehow I can see an M-113 floating a lot longer
    than an M-60. On the other hand, RPG's can do a number on APC's
    so maybe the fact that the M-60 doesn't float too well could be
    overlooked! :-)
    
    Mark
    RMC USNR
    
    

a recent vehicular one:

	ATMP: All Terrain Mobile Platform - a 6x6 or 8x8 open cab, open cargo
		deck vehicle that can be air-transported, air-dropped, and 
		helicopter slung.

	Designed for the jobs a Land Rover (or US equivalent) would be used for
	when the going gets too hard for them. Also can be fitted with cranes
	and other specialist equipment...

/. Ian .\

    RE: 2.128 and 2.129
    
    Please put a translation of your notes in here. I can't be the only one
    who is gobsmacked, there must be others who will benefit..
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dave

>    who is gobsmacked, there must be others who will benefit..
    
 	
    Please describe gobsmacked.
    
    Kevin

    How to describe gobsmacked?
    
    It's that feeling you get when your jaw drops because something has
    happened that leaves you speechless. For example, the allies charge
    into Kuwait and reclaim it in one day with no casualties on either
    side. 
    
    Does that help?
    
    Dave

    Sure does!  Thanks
    

    IRAN -- Inspect and Repair As Necessary.  Pronounced like "eye ran".
    
    On a periodic basis, the Air Force would send a plane to a depot where
    the folks would give it a really thorough checkout and, literally,
    inspect it for anything that might need repair and fix it before it
    broke upstairs. 
    
    Humorous event:
    
    When I was in Navigator training, we flew in T-29's, rather old planes
    that had to go IRAN on a regular basis.  My Navigator training class
    had 3 Iranians and one of them had just a little more than average 
    difficulty with English.  One day, while one of our infamous Instructor
    Navigators was giving us one of those equally infamous boring lectures
    about routine maintenance for aircraft, this young Iranian began to
    day-dream.  He was probably joined by about half of those present,
    possibly even the Instructor Navigator.  When the instructor gave us an 
    example, he said something to the effect of "Now that one's going to
    IRAN in about 2 weeks".  The young Iranian suddenly awakened from his
    day-dream and interrupted the instructor and asked if he catch a hop so 
    he could visit his home.
    
    Well, I guess you had to be there.
    
    
                                       Kurt

    Re: IRAN
    
    At Ft Sill for a while we had a similar program called IRON.
    (Inspect, Repair/replace Only as Needed).
    
    Some of our maintenance folks had gone bonkers and were replacing
    virtually anything that looked "bad" to them. The result was a
    lot of bolts being over-torqued, accidents in removal of complex
    parts to replace a simple piece, and a lot of unneeded "down" time.
    You'd send a deuce-and-a-half to DS maintenance for something
    relatively minor, and 45 days later they'd STILL be fixing stuff!!
    PLUS, when you got it back, you'd have a laundry list of 1st and
    2nd level maintenance (operator and unit maintenance) "gigs" that
    had to be worked off ("We're 3rd shop (DS)...1st and 2nd shop ain't
    our job, man!")
    
    The maintenance budget went right through the roof, as did the 
    Commanding General! That's when IRON started...and with it, the
    "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" philosophy...and its own set
    of problems.  :)  Ah, maintenance...it brings back fond (?) memories!
    
    John B.
    

    Thank God I finally found a notes conference that I can relate to!
    
    Some more nicknames: 
    
    Propellerhead: an aviator
    Butterbar: (slang) Second Lieutanant
    Top: First Sergeant
    First Shirt: same
    Mud-puppies: Military Police (MP's)
    Chairborne Rangers: Admin types
    Fat Pills: Doughnuts or Dunkin' Donuts Holes
    Staff Puke: Anyone in a staff level position
    Puzzle Palace: Higher HQ's (in my case-Battalion HQ)
    Newbies: Any new enlisted soldier or new Butterbar
    Mother: The full time admin Sergeant for NG units (namely mine)
     
    The following acronym may be offensive (then again, maybe not)
    
    PENIS: Practical Exercise Not Including Soldiers (a paper exercise)
    
    
    Ted
    2LT, TC
    MAARNG
    (almost out of the Butterbar Phase!)
    
    

    This is just to clear up some more confusion...
    
    >>USAR - United States Army Reserve<<
    
    USAR - Also means United States Army Rangers.
    

    Marines - Leathernecks,Grunts
    Airforce - Fly Boys
    Navy - Water walkers
    Army - Weasels(nothing personal)
    Coast Guard - don't know
    

    I think you better check out RECON.Since the USMC has been around for
    about a hundred years or so and RECON came about before WWII.The SEALS
    came about some time after woulds.