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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

377.0. "What happens to custody if one of us die?" by TARKIN::VAILLANCOURT () Fri Jan 19 1996 10:54

    This may seem like a strange question to some, but it's something
    I need to know about.  Kind of like part of preparing a will and
    ensuring I have the right life insurance, I suppose. 
    
    I have physical custody of my son, and joint legal custody with
    my ex.  He has liberal visitation, always twice a week, more whenever
    he requests it.  We've stayed 'friendly' and get along with each others
    SO's.  Say I remarry.  Then my son has a step dad, and his own
    dad.  What would happen if I were to die?  Does his dad get total
    physical custody?  Does his step dad have any rights to visitation,
    or is that something that has to come just from the goodness of his
    dad's heart to work out?  I guess it would work the same way, if
    my ex were to pass away, his SO probably wouldn't see my son
    unless we worked out something between us, or is there any legal
    specifications around this?
    
    I know many people in this file, custodial and non, have re-married,
    so I'm sure I'm not the only one who ever wondered about this.
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377.1be prepared..MILPND::CLARK_DFri Jan 19 1996 12:5518
    
    Cheryl,
    
    I asked a lawyer about this since I'm in that position.  My husband
    died 7 years ago.  My daughter was 6 at the time, I was very concerned
    what would happen to her if anything (God forbid) happened to me. I
    wrote up a will at that time stating who I wanted custody to go to
    should something happen.   
    
    I got remarried this past year and wondered again (I'm a worrier about
    these things)  My lawyer said my husband (her stepdad) had no real
    legal power with her and I would have to state in my will that I wanted
    Custody/Guardinship to go to her Stepdad which is what she also wants.
    
    Either family can fight for custody so you should have something in
    writing set up.  My lawyer strongly suggested me doing this long ago.
    
    Dianne
377.2also a worrierQUOKKA::29169::SMITHFri Jan 19 1996 13:409
    This was something I was concerned about as in a will.  My Ex husband 
    has not paid support for several years and is not financially well. 
    He sees the children regularly and if I should die I expect they would 
    probably go to live with him.  Without a will, would he be able to get
    his hands on any inheritance (My half of my home, possestions,
    insurance) by saying he needs the 'support' money for the kids?
    
    Could this put my present husband in a bind?
    Sharon
377.3Life Insurance?QUOKKA::38642::PEASLEEFri Jan 19 1996 13:525
    Re: .2, I would assume that you would have life insurance with your
    children as beneficiaries so that the children would be provided for.
    Wouldn't you?
    
    nmp
377.4Yes, but...QUOKKA::29169::SMITHFri Jan 19 1996 14:368
    Yes, but they would not get it if he touched it.  He would drink it,
    gamble it, and blow it on frivolous toys.  They both work, so they
    would more likely be taking care of him (since he doesn't), not the
    other way around.  The Life insurance would be for their college.
    Perhaps I should have my sister in control of their college money
    somehow.
    
    Sharon
377.5QUOKKA::24661::DEWITTsome promises never should be spokenMon Jan 22 1996 06:5010
    Sharon
    
    	Appoint a trustee (family member or lawyer) that you can trust and
    you know will handle the fiscal responsibility towards your children. 
    
    	You could either keep the children as beneficiaries or make the
    trustee the beneficiary with the legal paperwork to back up the
    insurance proceeds are for the children's benefit only.
    
    Joyce
377.62 centsMKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Jan 22 1996 07:527
    Bio-dad gets first dibs in custodial disputes, step dad gets
    visitations. The longer the child lives with step dad, the greater the
    chances that the bio father gets less of a shot at custody. Best is
    that ALL parties sit down and chew on the thoughts before you go off
    and make plans. Children at the age of 12/13 get the real chance to
    choose. If bio-father is the dredge of the earth type, he gets less of
    a shot at custody. 
377.7TARKIN::VAILLANCOURTMon Jan 22 1996 07:5222
    My lawyer made me remove my child as my beneficiary.  Until they're
    18, the money from your life insurance will not go directly to them,
    even if they're named as a beneficiary.
    
    He had me change my beneficiary so that my ex- husband got a certain
    percent, and the rest went to a family member of my choice, as
    trustee for my son (I chose my sister).  The purpose of giving money to 
    the ex-, is so that if I die, he'll have money to help the cost of 
    raising our son (he had to do the same with his insurance, as part of the 
    divorce decree).  The rest of the policy which goes to my sister is to
    cover funeral expenses, and money for my son when he's older.
    
    I understand all the financial aspects, I just don't understand the
    custody/living/etc.  I know my ex- would want full custody of our
    son.  We're amicable now, he gives me all the support he's supposed 
    to faithfully, sees our son regularly, etc.  But I know if I weren't
    here he would not want to share our son with another 'man', even if
    it were our son's step-dad.
    
    Cheri