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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

341.0. "Mass Child Support Guidelines" by GIAMEM::HOVEY () Fri Feb 10 1995 12:12

    
    Has there been any updates/increases to the Mass. Child Care Support
    
    formula?
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341.1What %'sGIAMEM::HOVEYFri Feb 10 1995 12:122
    
    	Is it still 28% of gross?
341.2MSBCS::GIRONDELFri Feb 10 1995 13:185
    An increase? even thinking of an increase is nuts at the level where
    the rates already are. But again, it's already so crazy and so confiscatory,
    that everything  goes...is it why you're asking?
    
    Does anyone know what the formulas in other states?  
341.3NH CS Guidelines.SALEM::PERRY_WMon Feb 13 1995 09:2112
    
    In NH the CS rate is a percent of the NET income and is approx what
    I have listed below.
    
          One child---28%   NET income
       Two children---33&    "    "
     Three or more----45%    "    "      (can you believe this one?!)
    
    Some states use a percent of GROSS income for CS.  I believe Mass
    is one of them.   I have a book of different models and formulaes
    for CS.  I'll try to bring the title and in and post it in this 
    notesfile.           Bill                                        
341.4How about Ca.ALFA2::PEASLEEMon Feb 13 1995 10:321
    Do you happen to know the guidelines for California??
341.5QUOKKA::38110::FELDMANONLY $19.99.99Wed Jun 14 1995 07:485
    
    
    	I've been hearing some rather upseting news lately that if a
    	man remarries that his new wife's salary would be added to adjust
    	for a increase in the mans child support. is this true?
341.6QUOKKA::3258::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaWed Jun 14 1995 08:001
    Yep... Welcome to the fair play of divorce.....
341.7QUOKKA::29067::HADDOCKSaddle RozinanteWed Jun 14 1995 10:0416
    re .5
    
    >	I've been hearing some rather upseting news lately that if a
    >   man remarries that his new wife's salary would be added to adjust
    >	for a increase in the mans child support. is this true?
    
    Not necessarily.  Most states now follow fairly strict "guidelines"
    that forbid the use of the spouse's income.  Some even eliminage
    overtime and second Jobs (Colorado).  However, some judges will sneak
    it in on you, fuguring that you have other means to pay our bills.
    
    Bottom line is check with your lawyer, or check out the guidelines 
    in the law books a your local libraray.
    
    fred();
    
341.8Watch out in Mass, it's no but yes anywayQUOKKA::58323::BLANCHARDWed Jun 14 1995 12:1730
    In Mass., the law doesn't say they can use the new spouses to determine 
    the child support.  That should mean forget it and don't worry about
    it.  Unfortunately when you are asked to fill out financial forms for 
    court, if you haven't got your head on straight and you are honest, you
    put down both incomes......wrong thing to do......for purposes of
    court, show only your income.  They have no right to ask or consider
    your spouses in Mass.  so never put it down or say whether or not she
    works, its not even an issue.  What most judges do in this state is
    that even if you are living with another person, they automatically
    think that means that you can afford to go to the absolute max plus
    on child support, so they will heap you with bills, unpaid medical,
    max child support and anything else they can think of, because they
    figure you have help paying the rent.  But, in mass. they will also
    use overtime, inheritence received after the divorce is final, and
    anything else they can get hold of if your ex does't work much, just
    so they can keep her off welfare.  They have the attitude that you
    own her forever.  
    
    So, the bottom line is never bring up that you are married, and never
    never bring up for any reason that you live with anyone or that they
    work or how much they make.  The system is extremely dishonest towards
    men, don't try to work in it with absolute boyscout honesty, or you
    will never have a life again.
    
    Bottom line, even if they can't use the new wife's or live in's income
    they will, and if you lose your job, they will continue to go after
    you for the same child support because they figure you can get it from
    your wife.  That does not work if the situation is reversed and a NCP
    mother quits work and lives off hubby, they will not make her pay,
    saying she has no income:-)  
341.9They always bring it upQUOKKA::11773::CASEYMon Mar 24 1997 11:195
    They are not supposed to use the new wife's income in figuring the
    amount, but it definitely comes into play.  We have been in and out of
    court with my husbands exwife and they ALWAYS mention my income and
    what our combined income is.  The lawyer figures if she gets the info
    out there, the judge will use it in his decisions, and he does.
341.10QUOKKA::3131::CURRANMon Mar 24 1997 11:5312
    When we went to court (in NH) the paperwork specifically said, income
    of plaintiff, income of defendant. If they are going to start using
    your spouses income, then your spouse should be asking for separate
    visitations because, after all, they never married your ex! I'd like to
    see his ex come after my income. She'd have another thing to think
    about. Just because we have two incomes, doesn't mean we are living
    high off the hog. There are two people living off two incomes, this is
    equal to one person living off of one income. However, the NCP paying
    the support is then giving extra money to suppliment the difference in
    the ex's income verses his income. 
    I've noticed that Mass is quite different than NH. For some reason>