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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
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Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

260.0. "Who is my mommy?" by ODIXIE::WASHINGTONJ () Mon Apr 19 1993 09:42

    My husband and I were recently awarded custody of his three year old
    daughter, Stacy.  She lives with us and visits her birth mother, Lynn,
    every other weekend from 8:00am Saturday to 7:00pm and then three hours 
    in the middle of the week, every other week.  Lynn also pays $350/month.
    
    Stacy has been around me since she came into the world.  After my
    husband and I married in August of '91 we saught custody.  Prior
    to this Stacy was shifted back and forth on a 50/50 basis.  Lynn married
    in June of '91 separated by November and subsequently divorced.  She
    met and within 6 months, married again this March to a kid (19 yrs.)  This
    instability in addition to other things going on aided us in acquiring 
    custody.
    
    The problem:  Lynn has taught Stacy to refer to the two men she has
    married as well as the many she has dated, as Daddy.  We have asked
    Lynn not to do this.  Since until Stacy was almost she refered to me as
    Nit' (my husband's nick name for me) then all on her own she began to
    call me mommy.  We never encouraged her one way or the other.  When she
    stopped calling me Nit', and only refering to me as Mommy, we began to
    teach her that she was very special because she has two mommy's.  She
    thought this was great! One thing we did notice was that she began to
    call Lynn by her first name.
    
    We have problems with Stacy saying things like "Joe (the 19yr old) is
    my daddy" and when asked who told her this she would say "Lynn".  This
    weekend she came home and announced "I only have one mommy, Lynn
    said I only have one mommy".  She called me by my first name two or
    three times this morning and then went back to calling me mommy.  I
    don't tell her to call me anything.  I want it to be her decision, so I
    just respond to whatever she calls me.
    
    My husband and I believe that because we asked Lynn not to teach her to
    call Joe daddy, and that it should be Stacy's decision (especially based on
    Lynn's track record with men), Lynn is not teaching Stacy not to refer
    to me as mommy.  I know it is quite confusing for Stacy.  But because
    she is with us 90% of the time I think our training will prevail
    however it is a tough thing to put a 3yr. old through.
    
    History Note:  Lynn and my husband were never married.  They dated for
    approx. 4 months, parted ways and Lynn announced she was pregnant
    shortly after.
    
    Are we doing the right thing in telling Stacy that she is special and
    has two mommy's?  How do we get Lynn to stop contradicting?  Anyone
    else have this problem?
    
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260.1CSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackMon Apr 19 1993 10:1311
    Probably the worst thing that you can do to Stacy right now is to make
    a big deal out of it.  What's that old saying about a rose by any other
    name...?  If Stacy asks you about it, then explain the situation to
    her as simply and straight forward as you can, but telling her she
    is 'special' because of certain circumstance may likely damage your
    credibility in the long run.  Soon enough Stacy is going to grow
    up and find out the truth of the matter.  Just make sure that 
    you are not the one that she decides has been telling tales.

    fred();
260.2AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Apr 19 1993 13:133
    Legally, there is nothing you can say to Lynn. Execpt plead your case
    for the benifit of the child. 
    
260.3Be a parentCSC32::K_HYDEYes, we do windows -- CX03-2/J4 592-4181Wed Apr 28 1993 22:2424
    This sounds like a very insecure kid.  The cause is likely in the
    instability.  What this kid needs is love.  When I first got custody,
    my daughter had a milder case of this.  In her case, spending lots of
    time doing things with her (playing board games, reading, talking,
    playing the guitar & singing family songs, reviewing the happiest
    experiences of the day before I helped her say her prayers) and she
    improved greatly in about a year to 2 years.  They never get over it
    completely.  The adversarial nature of the court and the loss of a
    parent leave permanent scars.
    
    I'd stay away from counselors, unless they're inexpensive.  I was told
    once by a religious counselor that, in her opiinion, the more expensive
    the counselor -- the worst they are.  I believe her.
    
    Contact Focus On The Family in Colorado Springs, CO.  They're a
    non-profit group that has a great selection of materials for all family
    situations.  
    
    I don't think this kid is calling anyone "Mommy" or "Daddy".  It looks
    like this kid is searching for a definition and an example of each. 
    I'd get down on the living room floor and be a parent.
    
    
                                        Kurt
260.4this stuff tugs at the heart strings....FSLLC::FSLLC::HAMELThu May 27 1993 14:4822
  I'm recently divorced(one month, yea!!) and have joint legal custody with a
fairly liberal visitation schedule.  I have a son(7) and a daugther(4) that spend
a lot of time with me and my fiance(sp) that has two daugthers(4 and 7).  My kids
see and hear her daugthers calling me dad and being a family.  I can see it 
affecting them as it happens and make ever attempt to make them feel like they
still belong.  They recently asked their mother if she would mind if they refered
my fiance as "mom" since her kids called my daddy.  I believe that the kids should
be left alone to make up their own minds what to call these "new" people in 
their lives.  It's kind of ironic though, because when I think of my son, who 
happens to be my best friend in the world, calling my exwifes boyfreind "dad" it 
makes my blood boil.  I guess it something that we will all have to learn to
deal with over time, but the most important thing to remember is that the kids
have to come first.  We as parents must make ever attempt to isolate them from
the fighting and make them know that they are loved for who they are, not who 
they belong to or live with.

 As for you husbands ex(whatever) sounds like a mean spirited little SOB, in a
situation like yours I'd continue to be a loving parent, an know that "someday"
will come when they realize what's be going on then she will have to deal with
the results, not you!

			Best wishes and keep loving those kids, Bob