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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
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Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

255.0. "LEGAL OVERRIDE" by --UnknownUser-- () Thu Mar 25 1993 10:04

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255.1not a lawyer, but...CSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackThu Mar 25 1993 10:5715
    I have not been through this specific problem, but my experience
    with "final" decrees is that they are difficult to modify later
    except for "child support".   Her claiming "pressure" or "duress"
    will not likely fly.  Especially if she was represented by an
    attorney during the divorce.  If she can modify it, I know a lot
    of men that would like to modify a lot of bad deals that they got
    ramrodded into by their attorneys.

    However, if you signed a "quit claim" deed, that does not necessarily
    take your name off of the mortgage.  You can still be held liable
    for the mortgage even thought you no longer have any right to the
    property.  Bummer, huh.

    fred();
255.2loan has nothing to do with divorceCSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackThu Mar 25 1993 11:0822
    In reading .0 again, I don't think that the divorce decree has anything
    to do with it.  The mortgage that she signed is a separate legal issue.
    Again if she was represented by an attorney at the time, she cannot
    likely claim "pressure" or "duress".   You will, however, have to make
    sure you follow all legal procedures in making a claim on the home.
    In some states you have a lot of formalities to go through like
    sending the debtor a "right to cure" (right to pay off arearage or 
    loan) before you actually file for foreclosure.  Then she will still
    have a certain amount of time to pay off the loan before you can
    take possession.  Even at that the court will likely order the home
    sold to pay off your share of the mortgage and whatever is left
    over will go to her.  If there is not enough from the sale of the
    home to cover the debt, she can still be liable for the rest of the
    debt.  At that point, you can go through "normal" debt collection 
    procedures like having her wages garnished (you will have to go
    back to court over that).

    Probably will have to get a lawyer to give you the entire process.
    They change from state to state.
    
    fred();
255.3AIMHI::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Mar 25 1993 11:3212
    Sue the pants off the ex if she fails to sign the papers. For when your
    going thru a divorce the last thing the marrital master asks you is
    that there is diress involved with the divorce. She and yourself should
    have to have said,"N O !" there someplace.:) 
    
    I would sue her for failure to sign, loss of money, and anything else
    that you and your attorney can think of. And if they (the attorney)
    starts to drag its feet. Drop em and find someone else for there are
    more attornies out there than there are clients to give them good
    money.:_)
    
    Have fun
255.5Something else to considerCSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackThu Mar 25 1993 12:0913
    Something else you may want to investigate.  I heard a guy talking
    about this on the radio the other night, but I don't have the full
    details.  It is called a "Common Law Lien".  If a bank is fixing
    to foreclose on your property, you can file a lien against your 
    own property and make the bank sell it for what it would take to
    cover your equity.  Contrary to popular belief, banks do not have
    to sell the property at "fair market value".  They can unload it
    at an auction for whatever they can get and leave you holding the
    bag for whatever is left over.  The Common Law Lien was given
    as a way to combat that.

    fred();
255.7milage can vary by stateCSC32::HADDOCKDon't Tell My Achy-Breaky BackThu Mar 25 1993 14:289
    
    Once again, I should have said, your milage on .5 can vary depending
    on local laws, but you should take the time to educate _yourself_
    not just take the bank or anyone else's word for it.  A good place
    to start is the CONSUMER CREDIT sections of the local state laws.
    The law books can usually be found in the local public or university
    library.
    
    fred();