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154.1 | | AIMHI::RAUH | Home of The Cruel Spa | Fri Aug 30 1991 13:31 | 3 |
| Rita,
Write a motion to shoot the ex. :)
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154.2 | Free advice is worth every cent 8^) | CSC32::HADDOCK | All Irk and No Pay | Fri Aug 30 1991 14:02 | 29 |
| re .1 Down George Down.:^)
re .0
This brings up a lot of questions because so many states have
so many ways of dealing with things. May want to spend $75 or
so on a lawyer in Mas to answer the questions about support and
maybe another $75 or so in Texas to get everything answered "for
sure". Again I am not a lawyer. But...
1) I'd look into buying the house *before* I got married. I don't
know if Texas's community property deals with property *before*
marriage. Many/most states say that anything you owned before
marriage is *yours* not *ours*.
2) I have found that the courts are more considerate of the non-ncp/
spouse's income when considering child support. If filing jointly
and you can try making a notation that the tax return includes
*both* incomes. May pay you to check this out with a lawyer and
file separately if necessary. Filing separately can cost you more
in taxes, but save you more in the long run. Probaly won't be
able to get away from *all* of the expense of the situation. Even
though it may cost you some $$$ up front, it will probably save
some $$$$ in the long run. It's better to go in with a plan of
action and *know* what is going to happen and what can be done
about it. Better to find out for sure now than try to *react*
after the &^%$# hits the fan.
fred();
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154.3 | Check on a pre-nuptual agreement | LJOHUB::GODIN | | Fri Aug 30 1991 14:07 | 28 |
| Rita, I can't offer you any legal advice, but I can share what has
worked (so far) for me and my spouse (not the father of my children).
Prior to getting married, we reached a pre-nuptual agreement that the
children are mine, not his, and that he is in no way responsible for
their care, upkeep, or education. If he voluntarily contributes toward
these items, it will be of his own free-will and not expected or
required because we happened to get married to each other.
So far that agreement has been honored. I hasten to add that it has
never been put to a truly legal test. The only test has been when I
was required to file a financial statement when my daughter applied for
financial aid from her college. We were required to list my spouse's
assets (and did), but I added a note about the pre-nuptual agreement,
and the college assessed the "student's custodial parent" and the
"student's non-custodial parent" certain amounts, but not the
"student's step-parents."
A lawyer (I'd suggest while you're still in Mass., a non-community
property state) could advise you about whether a pre-nuptual agreement
reached here would hold up, if tested, in Texas.
I don't get as upset as many of the non-custodial parents in this
conference over custody and child-support. But I do get rabid when it
comes to any hint that a court/school/ex-spouse could FORCE my husband
to provide any support for children he had no involvement in begetting.
Good luck.
Karen
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154.4 | | AIMHI::RAUH | Home of The Cruel Spa | Fri Aug 30 1991 14:28 | 20 |
| Sorry got carried away. Just having fun.:) But reguardless, what ever
happens, your marriage to this man or any other person is like a
partnership in a business. Because of the legal rights that outside
influences will have upon you. Just as two guys going into business and
thier wives have nothing to do with its operation. If one of the
partners die, the surviorship would flop over to the wife of the
decessed partner. Hence goes the term in the busines world of "getting
into bed with the partners." Or if there was a divorce in the
partnership 25% of the business would belong to the non working wife of
that 4 some. Not to get flamed on guys and gals. Just to bring up the
points made on how our courts legally look at things in a
rational/nonrational manner. And how it might effect you in life.
In the same mannor, depending upon how, who, what wrote the final will
have a BIG effect upon your relationship with your new SO. So, good
luck, have fun. And remember that there is a life after divorce.
Hopefully the both of you will have learned from past mistakes.
I still believe writing a motion to shoot the ex is the best plan.:)
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154.5 | The laws are different in every state-
Bite the bullet and talk to a lawyer
Bite the bullet and talk to a TExan lawyer
| GLOSSA::BRUCKERT | | Fri Aug 30 1991 14:42 | 10 |
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The issue/concerns your raise are all valid one. The key
elemenet is to not do something now that will hurt you later. Talk
to a Texan lawyer befoer you get married. First time consultations
usually come a little cheaper anyway. An inexpesive piece of legal
work now might save you mcuh agony later. Only a texas divorce
lawyer would know Texas divorce law well enough to give you good advice.
An ounce of prevention........
PS- The cohabitation law probably doesn't apply, since you
weren't cohabitating in Texas-but ask the lawyer.
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154.6 | Bigamy? | SRATGA::SCARBERRY_CI | | Fri Aug 30 1991 17:33 | 4 |
| Just wondering?
If the divorce is not final until October, then legally how can
you and your SO be considered common-law husband/wife.
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154.7 | good luck in your move | LUNER::MACKINNON | | Tue Sep 03 1991 10:43 | 16 |
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I think you would have to have lived in Texas for the specified
amount of time to be considered married in that state.
I would definately get a lawyer from Texas to discuss these issues
with. It will prepare you for what is coming. A friend of mine
was divorced in TX and for what it's worth they seem to have some
of the best laws concerning these types of situations. Meaning
they seem to have one of the most equitable set of laws.
I have been told that in a community property state, the only thing
that becomes fair game is something that was purchased jointly.
Buy your house and put it in a trust. Noone can get at it that way.
Talk to a laywer.
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154.8 | been there! | CECV01::BEAN | Attila the Hun was a LIBERAL! | Tue Sep 03 1991 10:52 | 38 |
| the normal disclaimers apply... as one prominent (?) noter says: free
advise is worth every penny...
so here goes, rita..
I lived in Texas (San Antonio) for 20 years and got my divorce there in
1988. re:
1. community property state: yes, Texas is a community property
state, BUT!!! if the receipts you get from your MA. house are your
private property, and unless someone else owns the house with you, they
are, AND if you use those receipts to purchase a new house in TX. (even
after you are re-married)... then that portion of the new house which
was purchased with your private funds REMAINS YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY!
This I know for fact because the exact same thing happened to me with a
home my ex and I purchased with her own private (inheritance) funds.
Your private money is protected from any court action.
2. Texas law SPECIFICALLY prohibits the attachment of the spouse's
income in any computation for support from a NCP. Texas law will
protect YOUR income... and will use only your husband's income in
computing child support. The catch here is that since your SOs kids
are NOT IN TEXAS, Texas does not have jurisdiction. I don't know how
the state where they live operates. But, they would have one hell of a
time attaching your wages from 2000 miles away, and I am sure TEXAS law
would not do it for them.
By the way, avoid, at ALL COSTS having your or your husbands wages
garnished. that is absolutely the worst way to have child support
payments handled. his kids need to have that money... but they need to
have HIM GIVE IT TO THEM.. not some ponderous government agency.
if you have any questions about Texas you may feel free to contact me.
tony
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154.9 | a little info a bit late | DANALI::JIMC | My lifestyle = Full Catastrophe Living | Fri Nov 22 1991 15:37 | 23 |
| FWIW and from my experience (your mileage may vary) (standard
disclaimers, etc.)
Jurisdiction is with the child. For Jurisdiction to change, the child
must reside in the new state for more than 6 months. So in your case
it will be Delaware.
They can attach pay from 2000 miles away, it is called URESA (the
Uniform Riciprocal Enforcement and Support Act) but it is cumbersome
and bureaucratic as the dickens (a twelve part form in quintuplicate
using carbons and they usually lose the first submission ;-).
A whole lot depends on what the childs mother does. If She is
cooperative (don't laugh y'all, it happens) then it should be fine, you
just work it out, he reports his job, establishes his income and pays
support. If she is vindictive, you can play games until the cows come
home without resolving anything or having any peace of mind.
On the personal side, I love your attitude and think the two of you
have a good chance of making it. He is awfully lucky to have you in
his life and I hope he appreciates you (I woulda).
jimc
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