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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

131.0. "When the NCP moves questions ..." by PARZVL::GRAY (Follow the hawk, when it circles, ...) Mon May 20 1991 12:09

       
       Two questions for any NCP out there who moved from the state that
       the children lived in.  This is for a close friend who is an NCP
       and is about to move from Mass to New Jersey.

       RELEVANT BACKGROUND DETAILS:
       Children:       2
       Child Support:  33% of 60K
       Health Ins.:    He provides insurance plus pays 66% of
                       uninsured medical expenses.
       Moving Expense: To be paid by his company in lump sum (expenses
                       to include lost value in old condo, movers, etc.)

       QUESTIONS:
       1) He has a local Boston HMO for both himself and the children.
          What happens when he gets to NJ?  How did you handle this?

       2) The lump sum payment by his company for moving expenses will
          show up on his tax return as income.  If his ex goes for an
          increase in child support, how does he keep this from being
          viewed as a salary increase/bonus subject to child support
          calculations for future years?


       ADthanksVANCE,
       Richard
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131.1Judges are somewhat intelligent.DPDMAI::MCQUEENEYIt's only traffic if it moves!Tue May 21 1991 15:3722
    re: relocation reimbursements
    
    On the W2 form, relocation reimbursements are listed seperately now. 
    It should not be difficult to prove  to a judge that these were
    legitimate business expenses reimbursed by the company, and not
    actually disposable income.  Any reasonable judge would accept that
    explanation.
    
    I had that similar dilemma this past year, upon relocating from PRM to
    Dallas.  It never caused a problem with my (now somewhat reasonable)
    ex.
    
    As a matter of fact, during the divorce proceedings, my ex tried to get
    some of my previous "on-call" pay considered as normal salary, and
    increase support accordingly.  When I explained to the judge (in PRM)
    that this "on-call" was only temporary due to departmental
    reorganizations going on at the time, he refused to consider it as
    income upon which to determine support.  Looks like I lucked out on
    both occasions.
    
    Bob McQ.
    
131.2insurance problem, probablyCECV03::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Wed May 22 1991 07:5018
    re:
    
   <<< Note 131.0 by PARZVL::GRAY "Follow the hawk, when it circles, ..." >>>
                     -< When the NCP moves questions ... >-

<       QUESTIONS:
<       1) He has a local Boston HMO for both himself and the children.
<          What happens when he gets to NJ?  How did you handle this?
<
    There may be a problem...if your friend is a DECcie.  Unless the
    children and NCP are both covered by the same HMO and DEC is willing to
    do the paperwork... he may be required to get off the HMO and jump onto
    the John Hancock mecidal plan 1 or 2... at considerably more expense. 
    It's happened to me, and as of right now, DEC is aware of the problem,
    and nothing can be done.  I have no idea if DEC is trying to fix this
    problem, however.
    
    tony
131.3better interstate than international27336::JIMCillegitimi non insectusWed May 22 1991 09:5310
    The problem with a local HMO is that there is no provision for anything
    beyond emergency service outside of the service area for that HMO.  If,
    as is the case here, you need to provide coverage for someone outside
    the local service area, it is necessary to get the type of coverage
    which will providee that service.  That is, almost always, more
    expensive, but it is also the nature of the beast.  I would doubt that
    there is much that DEC can do about this, if you need interstate
    service, you have to go with the interstate company.
    
    jimc
131.4NJ residentHOCUS::NORDELLWed May 22 1991 13:107
    I don't really have anything to offer in the advice depart, but I think
    I am the only one in this conference from New Jersey.  So if your
    friend gets here and needs recommendations (attorney, housing, etc.) my
    office number is (908) 562-4260.
    
    Susan
    
131.5Hancock works out Cheaper!DPDMAI::MCQUEENEYCowboy BobWed May 22 1991 15:1215
    re: .2
    
    >at considerably more expense...
    
    Sorry, I have checked into the HMOs and the Digital/Hancock plans.  I
    maintained the Hancock rather than the HMO because overall, the expense
    is less.  Costs much less per week for premiums, and the ex- pretty
    much eats up the family deductible with her various (psychosomatic)
    problems.  I wind up saving a bit by using Hancock.
    
    The person in question should thoroughly investigate all the options
    and decide which health care is the best, financially.
    
    Bob McQ.
    
131.6Thanks, & more detail ...PARZVL::GRAYFollow the hawk, when it circles, ...Wed May 22 1991 16:0717
    .1> relocation reimbursements are listed seperately [...]
    .1> Any reasonable judge would ...

       Ya, I guess there's no other way

    .2> if your friend is a DECcie

       No, he works for NET/NYNEX in Boston and he's going to
       Bell Corp in NJ but it looks like the solution is the same,
       forget about the HMO.

    .4>  if your friend gets here and needs recommendations

       Thanks, I'll send you Email


       Richard