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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
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Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

89.0. "NH Custody - need input" by CBROWN::WILSON () Tue Oct 02 1990 09:23

               I am in need of advice in dealing with a custody 
        issue in New Hampshire. My divorce was final May 21, 
        1990.  We share joint legal custody but the ex (Julie) 
        has physical custody.  About a month ago, Julie announced 
        that she had gotten re-married (apparently as soon as the 
        divorce was final) and was moving with our 3 year old 
        daughter to Washington D.C. where her new husband is 
        stationed in the military.  He has been stationed there 
        for a year now and will most likely be there until early 
        1992.  That is all the information that I have on him.  
        The ex is also apparently pregnant.  Currently I have 
        daily visitation with my daughter although that is not 
        what the decree called for.  Julie was  required to give 
        me 30 days notice before moving from the state and that 
        is most likely what the letter is that is waiting for me 
        at the post office.  The obvious problem is that I do not 
        believe it is in my daughter's best interest to move such 
        a great distance away.  I have already consulted an 
        attorney.  He said that I have an excellent case because 
        Julie knew what her plans were when she signed the 
        agreement and therefore deceived the Guardian et Litum 
        and the court system.  Further, the laws concerning this 
        type of move state the permanent home must be an 
        improvement for the custodial parent and child.  The home 
        is neither permanent or an improvement.  On the other 
        hand,   I have already dealt with this "justice" system.  
        Even the attorney admits that while the laws are in my 
        favor, the judge may not be. What my real problem is that 
        I have exhausted all my resources.  She got all the money 
        we had in the bank and I had to take out a second 
        mortgage to pay for my attorney during the divorce.   
        After I pay child support, there is little money left for 
        necessary expenses, never mind an attorney.  Julie was 
        provided an attorney at no cost for the divorce even 
        though she was working three jobs at the time and I was 
        giving her about 800 dollars a month so I am assuming I 
        could possibly obtain an attorney to represent me in this 
        matter.  Does anyone know if this is possible and how I 
        would go about this ?   Short of that, how would I 
        represent myself ?  I do not have any knowledge of how 
        the system works as we never actually went before the 
        Marital Master. 
            
            
            Thanks,
            Gary
        
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89.1AIMHI::RAUHHome of The Cruel SpaTue Oct 02 1990 10:568
    Well the best thing to do is to go to Franklin Pierce College and start
    boning up on the laws and court cites of past success. The courts seem
    to favor the party who reps himself and sounds like he/she has a brain
    inside their head. I have been doing the same. I live in Souther N.H.
    and Concord N.H. is a long drive for a evening call. Funny I have a
    Julie for a ex too.
    
    George
89.2SQM::MACDONALDTue Oct 02 1990 13:0213
    
    In just such a discussion, my lawyer told me that if the move has a
    sensible reason behind it then stopping it is a crap shoot.  Moving to
    D.C. with her new husband would probably satisfy the court as
    reasonable.  Can't comment on the comments about whether she misled the
    Guardian ad Litem.  I would, however, as well as pursuing some way of
    preventing this not overlook the need to come up with a reasonable fall
    back position if she wins i.e. how will visitation be conducted? who
    will pay for traveling expenses? etc.
    
    fwiw,
    Stgeve
    
89.3AIMHI::RAUHHome of The Cruel SpaTue Oct 02 1990 13:382
    But there maybe something that can be done later with some knowledge.
    And some suport. Got to start some place.
89.4POCUS::NORDELLWed Oct 03 1990 07:2020
    This is certainly closing the barn door after the horse has escaped but
    for anyone reading this conference who has not finalized their divorce,
    I (we) had a clause in our papers that says I am the custodial parent
    although we have joint-custody but the first parent to move more than
    50 miles out of the radius of the marital home (my ex keep the house
    and bought me out) would relinquish custody to the other parent.  This
    kept both of us in the area for quite some time.   He eventually took a
    promotion and transfer to Canada after six months of soul searching and
    my promise to continue the close contact/relationship he has with his
    daughter.
    
    Our primary question when determining living arrangements is and
    always has been:
    
    "WHAT IS BEST FOR JANE"
    
    I wish you luck.   
    
    Susan
    
89.5Two things you need (IMO)IAMOK::GRAYFollow the hawk, when it circles, ...Wed Oct 03 1990 10:4731
       Married and pregnant in 5 months.  It sounds like you've been
       snookered.  The last time I talked to a lawyer about this, he
       said: 

           - You can't restrict the woman from leaving the state,
             that would be Kidnaping, you can only prevent the
             child from leaving.
           - Because the divorce is so recent (mine was May 31, 1990)
             the court is reluctant to change custody unless there is
             a "clear and present danger" to the minor child.

       In my opinion, you should go to court quickly (represent yourself
       if you must) and ask for at least two things:

           - Ask the NH Courts to state that they will retain
             jurisdiction over the case regardless of where either party
             resides.  The reason is that if she keeps moving around,
             the courts in each state will argue over who has
             jurisdiction and you will never get anything done.

	   - Ask for some adjustments to visitation and child support in
	     consideration of the expense and distance involved.  She
	     should pay to get the child to you, or you should pay less
	     for support if you have to pay for travel, etc.


       Good luck, and keep us posted.  Some of us are working the same
       issues.

       Richard
89.6RE: .2 .5BOSOX::WILSONThu Oct 04 1990 05:4014
RE: .2  .5

   Thanks for the input.  I am most likely going with that advice.
The ex is willing to accept less support in consideration of reduced 
visitation and allowing the child leave the state with no hassles.
Certainly, this is not the best option for myself or my child, but
having already dealt with this court system, it is probably better
to work out the best possible agreement on our own and have it blessed
by an attorney and the court system.  This new husband will probably
be my daughter's role model for the next 15 years so I may as well get
started on the right foot.

Thanks,
Gary