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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

85.0. "What can I do now, if anything?" by FSOA::KCASBEER () Wed Sep 12 1990 10:19

    Hello to all,
    
    	I am new to this conference, and fairly new to Digital.
    I am a custodial parent of a little boy (15 months old).  My
    husband left when he was one month old and has not made any
    child support payments.  The payments were set in September
    and were to be taken automatically, he then vanished.  Since
    then I have filed for a divorce, which has been granted based on
    abandoment, I was not entilted to a lawyer at this time and did
    not have the money to hire one as my ex left me with nothing.
    Anyway when my divorce was granted there were no child support
    payments set.  I made a few calls and was told that they could
    not be set because we did not know his where abouts.  Upon my
    asking, "so he can walk back in and owe nothing except for nine
    months?"  There answer was generally yes.  Does this sound weird to 
    anyone else?  Is there anything I can do in the mean time?  If he
    does show up a few years from now can I sue for back payments?  Oh 
    yeah I was granted total custody with no visitation rights for any
    of his side of the family as none are involved and I have not
    heard from any of them for some months now.  The father has no
    doubts as to whether the child is his.
    
    Thanks for any answers that may help me at this time.
    
    Kim
    
    
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85.1My take on this KimNRUG::MARTINLets turn this MUTHA OUT!Thu Sep 13 1990 06:5937
    Kim, sorry to hear about your problem.
    
    A couple of answers from my prospective.
    
    IF the court did not order child support payments, then legally you ex
    does not have to pay (I know that this stinks but legally that is the
    way it is).
    
    Your delema is all too common Kim.  A lot of men "run" out on their
    spouce and child(ren) and "disappear from the face of the earth".
    
    As far as him walking back into your life, if the courts have granted
    you total custody, with no visitations on his side, he cannot legally
    "walk back in".
    
    As for what you can do, here is my opinion;
    
    First off, keep us posted, whenever you feel the preasures or just need
    a sholder to lean on and an ear to listen, remember us.  We will always
    be here for ya.
    
    Secondly, maybe you could find someone (your mother or father, a sister
    or brother, or even a very close friend) and discuss your feelings, get
    your anger, questions, frustrations, and fear off of your chest.  A
    councelor (sp) is a good place to start, or even a custodial parent or
    womens support group is another.
    
    Mainly, don't let it get you down, there is always someone that will
    give you the support network that you need, its just a matter of
    finding the right person(s) that make you feel comfortable.
    
    This is all my opinion Kim, I am a happily married (with children) man.
    I do not, first hand, know what it feels like, but I have delt with
    custodial and non custodial parents before and this is what I think
    would help.
    
    Al
85.2JETSAM::WHEELERChickens have no bumsThu Sep 13 1990 12:4926

	Try calling (if your in Mass) the Massachusetts Department of 
	Revene Child Support Enforcement Division at
		1-800-332-2733

	They will send you and application for their services (all
	free except for filing costs)

	Services they offer:

		o Locate the absent parent

		o Establish paternity (if needed)

		o Establish child support order (if needed)

		o Enforce child support order

		o Collect child support payments and send them
		  to you

		o Review cases for modication of child support
		  order, depending on outcome see modications.

	They offer all, some, or 1 of these services.
85.3A few things to addFSOA::KCASBEERThu Sep 13 1990 14:3325
    Just some quick additions:
    
    	1.  I currently live with my parents who are a wonderful
    	    support to me, and listen very attentively.  (of course
    	    they never liked my ex, especially now)
    
    	2.  I did call Child Support revenue, they have been involved
    	    since my restraining order and temporary custody.  They 
            have a few problems:
    
    	    a.  He has not filed taxes for over three years
    	    b.  He seems to working under the table or not all
    	    c.  The last residence address we have is at his job in
                Franklin
    	    d.  There is a good chance he is in Texas at his parents,
    		Texas does not help much.
    
    	    They did however tell me there is a warrant out for his
            arrest and I would be contacted as soon as anything happened.
    
    Thanks for all your suggestions they mean alot at this time.
    
    Kim
    
    
85.4Magnum P.I.WILLEE::SKOWRONEKFri Sep 14 1990 08:5220
    
    I know it may cost some money, but have you thought of hiring a
    Private Detective to find him.  I would check with the DOR Child
    Support Enforcement Div., and find out if you would be owed any
    back child support if & when your ex is found.  If you are, then
    I would find a P.D. who would accept most of his fee after he/she
    finds your ex.  All you need to find out is where he is living and
    if he has a job.  Then once you have evidence, you can call the
    local police/sherrifs department, and they should arrest him and
    send him back to Mass for trial.
    
    There is still the chance that he will skip out again, but maybe
    he won't.  Part of me wants to tell you to just forget it - its
    not worth the aggravation, but the other part of me (who raised
    my daughter without support for 4 years, but finally got it) wants
    you to get this jerk.
    
    Good luck with everything,
    Debby
    
85.5Leave him in hidingSCAACT::COXKristen Cox - Dallas ACT Sys MgrMon Sep 17 1990 16:1613
Why do you want to find him?  He is no model for your child.  If there is any
possible way on this earth that you could make it without the help of his
child support. then why try to find him?  Chances are he would not enforce it,
but if he is slapped with child support he is also entitled to visitation.  I
would not want my child around him (sorry if this sounds cold, but whose sperm
contributed to the child is of little meaning compared to other factors of
being a parent).  He has already proven that he can easily disappear, and is
willing to disappear.   Try your damdest to make it on your own, and don't
subject your little one to this person!

My (harsh) opinions, of course.
Kristen
85.6not relatedBPOV04::MACKINNONProChoice is a form of democracyTue Sep 18 1990 07:518
    
    re -1
    
    In Mass, support and visitation are not related.  One does not
    necessarily have to be granted visitation if they are paying support.
    
    
    Michele
85.7take care of yourself and childTROA09::BLOMNOW is all there is Tue Oct 09 1990 19:5515
    just my few cents worth.
    
    Get a good agreement, so when he shows up (he just may one day)
    you are well protected, and have no obligation to allow anything
    you do not want.(like visitation)
    Maybe you will allow it eventually for the sake of your child,
    but save it for when necessary.
    If you are treated like this, the only thing you can do is protect
    yourself and your child.
    Without him present you may be very cheaply arrange this, when 
    he shows up it may (will cost you a bundel in fees).
    
    Good luck, Bart
    
    ie sr
85.8Dump him..he's a loserCSC32::N_WALLACEChoices HappenTue Oct 23 1990 09:0512
    
    
    I agree with Kristen. This guy is a schmuck. Why in the world would
    you want him involved in any way in your life? If you persue this,
    the emotional cost will be enormous for you and your son. I say take
    your lumps and get on with your life. You Don't need him. You need to
    believe in yourself. It sounds like you have supportive and loving
    parents to help you through the the storms. Your a lucky gal.
    
    -Neil
    CP-who-is-making-it-with-zero-support-from-ex
     
85.9kickem in the ...BENONI::JIMCillegitimi non insectusWed Jan 02 1991 15:009
    MY $0.02!  Yeah he's a schmuck.  Odds are, the schmuck will show up
    some day for whatever reason.  The really important thing is to try to
    establish the whereabouts etc.  One of these days, many years from now,
    your son will want to know his father.  If you say bad things about him
    it will dimish you, if good, you still lose.  Support is his obligation
    and any parent who does not contribute oughta be...(gee I can think of
    so many nasty things).
    
    I wish you well.  Hang in there.