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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

67.0. "HAPPY DADS DAY" by POCUS::NORDELL () Wed Jun 13 1990 11:39

    Sunday is the day!!!!!
    
    
    H A P P Y    F A T H E R ' S  D A Y  T O  A L L  Y O U   D A D S!!
    
    As a custodial mom with a supportive "ex", I thought I would let
    you all know that we do appreciate you and are grateful for the
    active part you take in "OUR" childrens lives.
    
    From what I have read in this conference, there is a great deal
    of caring and love for your children.  Keep up the good work!
    
    Susan
    
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67.1DittoSAGE::MACDONALD_KWed Jun 13 1990 12:385
    You're so right, Susan.  And I also wish you all a very happy
    Father's Day.
    
    - Kathryn
    
67.2We mattterCSC32::HADDOCKAll Irk and No PayFri Jun 15 1990 10:0132
All too often we tend to forget that fathers DO matter to those who
matter.  The following "customer letter" from the secretary of the private 
school that my daughter attends brought that back to me loud and
clear.  

I have been somewhat hesitant to enter this since I didn't want to 
appear that I was "bragging" (well-just a little).  I have decided
to enter it for those fathers and NCP's who may have, like I did,
overlooked the fact that you Do matter to those who matter.

fred();


Park Hill Christian Academy

Dear Mr. Haddock:

I just wanted to share a special blessing with you that happened last 
week in school.  I know things like this really give me a "lift".

I was helping out in one of the classes of 9th and 10th grade girls
and asked the question "What is the one special blessing that God
has given you?"  When Terri's turn came and I asked her that
question, her immediate reply was "I am thankful for my daddy".

This really touched my heart.  I know this means a lot to a 
parent , and I just wanted to share this with you.

Sincerely,
Sarafaye
School Secretary
    
67.3thanks for sharing that!FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Fri Jun 15 1990 12:371
    
67.4SIVA::MACDONALDTue Jun 19 1990 15:096
    
    Thanks, Fred.  I didn't even get a phone call so I'm glad
    someone else had a nice thing to share.
    
    Steve
    
67.5FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Wed Jun 20 1990 07:4715
    My two oldest sons called me on Father's day...we had a nice visit on
    the telephone.  I am very glad for that!  
    
    My 11 and 14 year old did not call.  They still live with mom.  I
    called last night, and neither one would talk to me.  I guess they are
    upset (still) over my inability to send extra money a few weeks ago for
    summer activities.  
    
    It constantly amazes me how their feelings towards me are so completely
    synchronized with how pi**ed off their mom is with me.  ;^)
    
    I hope all dads, everywhere, had a nice day.  ANd I hope EVERY day will
    someday be Father's day for them!
    
    tony
67.6SIVA::MACDONALDWed Jun 20 1990 14:2615
    
    Re: .5

    >  It constantly amazes me how their feelings towards me are so
    >  completely synchronized with how pi**ed off their mom is
    >  with me.  ;^)
  
    It makes sense when you think about it.  They either simply assume
    that they have to have the same feelings that she does or she tells
    them so directly.  In either case, it's just a survival issues for
    them.  You can hang up the phone; they have to live with her.
    
    Steve
    
    
67.7yupPOCUS::NORDELLThu Jun 21 1990 07:199
    Steve, you couldn't be more closer to the truth.  When I was a child,
    my mother constantly bad-mouthed my father.  It wasn't until I was
    an adult and could think for myself that I realized there were two
    sides to every story.  Also, as I have stated in other notes, my
    mother was a physical abuser and if I dared to defend him, watch
    out!  As you said, they have to live with her.
    
    Susan
    
67.8what goes around.....FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu Jun 21 1990 08:2513
    i guess what i am *really* amazed at is not how her attitude or
    feelings translate into *their* attitude and feelings...as much as i am
    amazed that she *knows* all that and is intentionally doing it.  it's
    all a game to her...to be in CONTROL.  she knows it hurts me..and is
    willing to hurt the kids this way to "get" to me.  
    
    paranoid?  no...just true.  i lived with her for more than 20 years,
    and saw it all that time...  but, it still amazes me.
    
    i GUARANTEE (no, not a money back!) that it will back-fire on her one
    day, and she may well find herself deserted by her own children.  
    
    tony
67.9sad--sort of but trueCSC32::HADDOCKAll Irk and No PayThu Jun 21 1990 10:048
    re .8 tony
    
    That is what happened to my daughter and her mother.  My ex constantly
    bombarded her with so much hate and *&^% that when my daughter got old 
    enough to find out for herself, my ex looked like a real oger.  My
    daughter of her own decision now wants nothing to do with her mother.
    
    fred();
67.10SIVA::MACDONALDFri Jun 22 1990 08:3316
    
    Tony,
    
    Her feelings don't really become their feelings.  It's a role
    that they adopt to survive.  They are just parroting what she
    spews so that she will stay off their backs.  All this stuff
    is well know and understood by persons who understand
    dysfunctional families.  Your children probably have a very difficult
    time knowing what their own feelings are because they are constantly
    being controlled by their mother who wants to decide what they
    think and feel.  To better understand all this, you might want to
    look into the book Codependent No More by Melodie Beattie.  It
    might ring quite familiar.
    
    Steve