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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

58.0. "JH makes pay't directly to CP." by VCSESU::KINNEY () Wed May 09 1990 11:48

    Were any of you aware of a new law in Massachusetts requiring insurance
    companies to make payment directly to CUSTODIAL PARENT for charges
    involving the child.  
    
    This law, according to a John Hancock person, came into being in April,
    1988.  I found out about this law on Tues., May 1st when John Hancock
    informed me that a check for $809 was sent to my husband's ex-wife
    because she is the custodial parent - even though my husband is the DEC
    employee and the one who must  not only furnish the insurance for this
    child, but also pay 100% of all medical/dental bills.  His ex is
    responsible for NOTHING.
    
    Also, to make matters worse, JH sent this check made out to my husband
    to his ex's address.  When I asked JH to stop payment on the check
    because my husband & I would be willing to bet money that his ex forged
    his name and cashed the check, JH refused - saying that the custodial
    parent was the person to get ALL checks from JH involving that
    particular child.  I tried to explain to this JH idiot that my
    husband's court order mandates that he not only pay for the insurance
    on this child, but that he is also responsible for 100% of all the
    medical/dental bills for this child.  Why in God's name, should the
    custodial parent be sent anything - she pays nothing for anything.
    The only answer JH could give me was - because it's the law. 
    
    I asked them to send me a copy of this law (which she started to read
    to me over the phone) and was told that she didn't think she could.
    
    I called back and spoke with about 3 other people there, and got
    nowhere fast.  By the way, all of these JH people promised to get right
    back to me - that was May 1st.  I haven't heard from any of them yet.
    I called my PSA or immediately got in touch with my Benefits
    Administrator.  She has called me twice, sent me VAXmail once and has
    promised to get back to me this week some time.
    
    If anyone knows anything about this law, would you please send me the
    information on it.  We would really appreciate it.
    
    
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58.1Haven't heard that one, Yet!CSC32::K_JACKSONKeep coming back, it works!Wed May 09 1990 13:0028
  I haven't heard of such an animal.  But then leave it to JH to SNAFU
  everything.

  Recently, I received a summary sheet showing all medical expenses for
my daughter who had been in the hospital.  This was new to me because 
usually my ex gets it.  Well when she didn't get it, she called JH and
THEY said that since I am the employee, I will get EVERYTHING and that
if I want her to get things like summaries, checks, etc.  I have to 
send them a signed paper saying she can have a copy.

Now on the other hand, I have told JH that if ANY medical expenses 
are to be paid, they should be paid directly to the medical profession.
I would rather deal with them than my ex.

One time she had her lawyer try and sue me for money that she supposedly
paid for medical expenses and supposedly she filed a claim and that JH
sent me the check and that I cashed it.  WELL, her attorney got slapped
big time when I told them that wasn't true, and JH sent her a letter
stating that NO checks had ever been issued to me in my name and that
any benefit amounts were paid directly to the physicians.  (I laughed
pretty hard about that one).

Good luck on finding out what is the "truth" and please post the results
here.


Kenn
58.2Only in Massachusetts!VCSESU::KINNEYWed May 09 1990 14:496
    
    This NEW law pertains only to us poor slobs in the Commonwealth of
    Massachusetts.  You're in Colorado, aren't you.
    
    Don't move to this state - you wouldn't even wish it on an enemy!
    
58.3Change it in courtSCAACT::COXKristen Cox - Dallas ACT Sys MgrThu May 10 1990 09:549
If that is, indeed the law, I would head straight back to court to change the
orders.  All expenses should be paid for by HER since SHE will be the one
reimbursed.  Then she can give you a summary of what was not covered (proof
of charge, payment, and reimbursement) and you can pay 1/2.

Just my opinion... we get everything here, unless it is paid directly to the 
physician.

Kristen
58.4doesn't happen to meFSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu May 10 1990 10:4220
    just last week i received a JH statement, including a check for xxx
    dollars (made out to me) for medical care my kids received in Texas. 
    My ex paid the expenses, and I forwarded the check to her.  It has
    always worked this way.  *I* carry the insurance that covers thekids,
    and they always make the checks out to me.  I live in Mass. and have
    never had this problem with JH.
    
    on the other hand, my ex is also insured with JH on the COBRA plan (or
    what ever).  (that's a benefit provided her by the JH co.)  some
    benefit!
    
    she pays the premiums (about $200 per month...much less than insurance
    for her would cost in MA, by the way) and JH continues to dork up her
    account...not paying bills, or reimbursing expenses, or sending
    paperwork to me instead of her, or not at all. 
    
    JH definitely has some problems...but the one listed in .0 is not one
    of them in MY experience (thank God!)
    
    tony
58.5AKOV11::BHOLLANDThu May 10 1990 15:2716
    re. .0
    
    Didn't the ex-wife let your husband know that a check had come to her?
    
    If she forged his signature, isn't that some kind of illegal activity?
    
    Am I clear on this? Your husband pays the medical bills, fills out
    the paperwork, and expects to get reimbursed ?80% from JH.  Instead
    the reimbursement goes to his ex-wife and she gets a bonus check?!
    
    This is hard for me to believe that JH is that screwed up.  I go to
    HCHP.
    
    Keep us posted and good luck with getting the $809 soon.
    
    Beth
58.6ABITOK::wagonerTue Sep 17 1991 14:049
re: .5

>    If she forged his signature, isn't that some kind of illegal activity?


They don't care!  I had my ex forged my signature more times than I can count
for issurances.  They act like "what's the big deal?"

-darryl