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Conference quokka::non_custodial_parents

Title:Welcome to the Non-Custodial Parents Conference
Notice:Please read 1.* before writing anything
Moderator:MIASYS::HETRICK
Created:Sun Feb 25 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:420
Total number of notes:4370

28.0. "How 'bout some good news for a change?" by DYO780::EERENBERG (Thanks for the NEW start.) Mon Mar 19 1990 12:02

    Re 27.*
    
    Uhmmm... Kenn, that struck a deep cord in me.  How absolutely fortunate
    I am not to be in that condition.  I count my blessings!
    
    Let me share with you some good news.  It seems all too rare.
    
    I just got back from a great weekend with my children (Erin-15,
    Nathan-12, Brain-10, Tim-9, Joshua-5, Rebecca-3) in West Virginia
    (I'm 6 hours away in Dayton, Ohio).
    
    I got there Saturday and was greeted by all of them; some running
    out to the car as I drove up to the house (Does that sound like
    a fairy tale or what?).  Last week I made arrangements with my ex
    to stay in *her* house while I was in town.  She and her husband
    had the weekend to themselves (believe it or not, she has offered
    this more than once, but I couldn't go through with it since the
    divorce was last July...until now).
    
    So I came inside (I was dead tired from the 6 hour drive) and they hit
    me up with report cards.  With all the excitement, it was just a few
    minutes later and I forgot I was tired. All are doing great in school
    with the exception of one (we are working on that).
    
    I brought with me some presents.  I had framed pictures of sports cars
    I was going to throw away, but instead let each boy pick out one to
    keep.  Rebecca got a dress I found on sale and she wore it to church
    the next day.  I gave Erin a Panda bear in a bag that said "Hug me".
    We sat and talked for awhile.  Made and ate dinner together.  They
    surprised me with a birthday party for me.  My presents???  Hand
    made birthday cards from each (their mom won't give them any money,
    not even a stamp to send a letter so they found paper and crayons
    and had at it!).
    
    We played a new game I bought.  Shared with them a joke book I have.
    Watched Star Trek The Next Generation.  Played hide and seek and frozen
    catchers (it's a 2 story house with a basement, a lot of room).  And
    slept together in sleeping bags out in the living room (I have only one
    restriction in the house, I can't go in the master bedroom.  No
    Problem!  I sleep on the couch.  It saves me the hotel bill and I don't
    even want to be *close* to the master bedroom!). 
    
    Around 4:30 or 5:00 in the morning, the 3 year old climbed up in the
    couch and slept in my arms until we got up (I really missed that).  We
    got up, ate, went to church (the children's grandfather is the pastor;
    my father in law). People at the church greeted me and asked how I was
    doing and wished me a safe trip home.  Man!  I was touched! (Rare
    church!)
    
    My father in law (won't call him an "ex" father in law because it
    doesn't feel like it) and I made plans to go camping with the kids in
    June.  I tell you, amidst all the grief and suffering I read in this
    conference, and though things are far from perfect for me
    (understatement), I have to count myself *the* most fortunate person
    in this conference.
    
    Thanks for allowing me to share this with you.  I just couldn't
    keep it in any longer.
    
    
    			   John
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28.1CSC32::K_JACKSONBetter living through alchemy!Mon Mar 19 1990 12:159
  That's the kind of life I want my children to have also!  I'm glad to
  see everything is working out for you.  Eventually, things WILL work
  in my favor.  I have faith but it's just real time consuming and frustrating
  when I'm so far away.

  Hope your relationship continues to be a good one and give those kids a
  big hug from all of us! 

28.2great newsPOCUS::NORDELLMon Mar 19 1990 12:173
John, this is the best news all day - all week!  I know how apprehensive
    you were about staying at the house.  I'm so glad it worked out!
    
28.3thanks!FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Tue Mar 20 1990 07:4114
    John...
    Thanks for sharing that story!  How wonderful for you!  I too, have six
    kids (mine are a bit older, and some have moved away from home), and I
    know the love you spoke of.  
    
    I am visiting my kids in two weeks.  It'll be the first time since last
    April!  God, how I miss them.  
    
    I hope they receive me even half as enthusiastically as your's did. 
    Gosh, man, count your blessings.  How great that must make you feel!
    
    Thanks, again.
    
    tony
28.4Let the good times roll..PEKING::NASHDWhatever happened to Capt. Beaky?Tue Mar 20 1990 11:5814
    This weekend I'm going to get 2 Tee shirts made with DADDY LOVES
    ME put on them, and maybe a cartoon, and I'll send them to Chris
    and Vicki so they can wear them on their holiday. And I sent them
    a postcard at lunchtime today. 
    As for Easter, well my ex gave me an address where they are staying,
    so Im going to send the Easter cards there.         
    
    My divorced sisted has 2 children with whom the father chooses not 
    to communicate. They need a father-figure, so my sister has agreed
    that my wife and I can take them out for day-trips etc. Whatever
    we get upto will go in a letter back to my children.
    
    Dave
    
28.5PEKING::NASHDWhatever happened to Capt. Beaky?Tue Mar 20 1990 11:594
    ap pro pos of the last reply, I forget to add that at Easter they
    will be in Florida and that's a long way from here.
                            
    Dave
28.6some more good news!FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu Apr 19 1990 08:1427
    Well, I got some good news the other day, too...so, I thought I'd share
    it with you.
    
    I called Tuesday to speak with the kids (usally only Patrick, Kami, and
    Nicholas will talk with me.  Dana (age 19) is still very bitter and
    hasn't willingly spoken with me for nearly 2 years.
    
    So, Patrick and the younger kids and I all had a nice chat...and I felt
    really great about sharing some of their experiences with them...
    
    Then, their mom wanted to talk.  I am VERY tentative when that happens
    (sort of gun-shy, I guess) because that usually results in me having to
    fend off some sort of request or results in hurt feelings.  
    
    This time was different, though.  It seems she wanted to tell me about
    Dana's reaction to the Easter card I'd sent.  Dana normally tosses 
    cards away in anger and gets upset.  But, this time, according to her
    mom, she looked up, said "that was a nice card, I think I'll keep it". 
    Her mom was shocked (she said this was a total reversal in behaviour)
    and thought I'd like to hear about it.
    
    *I* was shocked...and pleased.  Peggy (ex's name) said "maybe Dana's
    feelings towards me were beginning to change".  Of course, I am
    ecstatic over the possibility, but I am also pleased that her mom
    was nice enuf to share it with me.  She really surprizes me, sometimes.
    
    tony  who_is_hoping_Dana_will_tell_me_herself_someday!
28.7Good News DayCLOVE::GODINYou an' me, we sweat an' strain.Thu Apr 19 1990 11:3124
    Good for you, Tony.  And let's hope good for Dana, too.
    
    And, while I'm in here, I have recently gotten some good news, too. 
    I recently learned that the child support I thought I'd have to pay 
    until each child finishes college (if they attend) actually ends when
    they reach 18.  Clearly an oversight in the wording of the final
    decree, but at least it eases my personal situation somewhat.
    
    Not that I'll stop supporting my daughter, who recently turned 18 and 
    is in college.  But I am now free to set up a joint account with her 
    and deposit her support where she can use it directly.  (She's mature
    enough to use it wisely, and logistics are such that she'll probably
    have me do the withdrawing and send her a check, so I'll be able to
    counsel about the use of the money to some extent.  Just knowing that 
    this is an operable plan has lifted half the weight from my shoulders.
    
    In my case it's never been the money or the amount of child support
    that has been the issue, but rather having to pay it to the kids'
    father, who uses money more to control the people in his life than to
    "support" their needs.
    
    One down, one (and two years) to go!
    Karen 
        
28.8Yeah!DYO780::EERENBERGThanks for the NEW start.Thu Apr 19 1990 12:0214
    Tony,
    
    Good news!  I hope and pray this will be the start of a healing
    in her life; this has started in yours no doubt.
    
    It's kinda strange to actually have a decent conversation with the
    ex isn't it?  Maybe that will be a trend to?  Maybe your daughter's
    unhappiness and the relationship with your ex is related more than
    we think?
    
    Good news!  Keep reaching out to your kids!
    
    
    			   John
28.9FSTTOO::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Thu Apr 19 1990 15:5411
    I've known all along that much of my daughter's feelings towards me is
    fostered by the attitude of her mother.  But, Dana is 19, and sooner or
    later had to "see the light".  I just hope this is the start of that.
    
    now!  there are two other kids at home there...one eleven and one
    fourteen.  sure hope things stay "good" with them!
    
    anyway...it IS a significant change, and even though I have not been
    able to TALK with Dana...perhaps that door, too, will someday open.
    
    tony	who_hopes_to_see_a_light_at_the_end_of_the_tunnel_soon