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Title:Discussions of topics pertaining to men
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELE
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
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201.0. "Interesting talk show Wednesday." by SALEM::PERRY_W () Thu Dec 21 1995 06:46

    
    I was home during the snow day Wednesday and watched part of one of
    those talk shows hosted by a women.  They were talking about custody,
    time sharing of children after divorce-formerly called visitation 
    for men-(some consciosness raising here).  On the show they had as
    guests four women and one man who are fighting for custody 
    Don't have time to talk about everything that went on but it was
    interesting! One of the guests was the woman from California who
    *moved away* with their small child to pursue educational goals.
    and has a court ruling to give custody to the father when she goes
    back to school.  She thinks she should have custody!
    How does the saying go? "We want it all".
    Anyone else see the show?
                                                 Bill 
    
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201.1MROA::SPICERThu Dec 21 1995 12:4720
    Bill,
    
    I guess you have not been in a Probate Court. Frankly I am very surprised 
    that custody was transfered. There must have been some unusual 
    circumstances.
    
    Obviously there is no restriction on where a person may live or what
    they choose to do. With minimal legal formality the custodial parent can 
    move anywhere. If that means the child(ren) rarely see the non custodial
    parent then that's just too bad. 
    
    That's the legal system - like it or not. 
                               
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
201.2MPGS::PHILLIn casual pursuit of serenity.Thu Dec 21 1995 13:154
Funny. In MA moving out of state legally requires the non-custodial parents
consent. I guess a court could override that.

Peter.
201.3MROA::SPICERThu Dec 21 1995 14:2122
    Peter,
    
    In MA the custodial parent can move anywhere under the bill of rights.
    They can take the dependent child(ren) without the consent of the
    non custodial by demonstrating to the Probate Court that the move may be 
    beneficial to the child(ren).
    
    Most people who plan to move are doing so because they will benefit in
    some way - nicer neighborhood, larger house, improving their standard of 
    living, better job prospects, better school system etc. Normally that 
    will also directly or indirectly benefit the child(ren).  
    
    In the cases I have seen (waiting my turn) the court gets through them 
    in a few minutes. I witnessed one case where the custodial parent moved 
    to Oregon with the 2 children without telling the NCP. Nice surprise. 
    When they got in front of the judge in Worcester it made no real 
    difference. It was successfully argued that the custodial parents family 
    were in Oregon and there close support was advantageous.
    
    The custodial parent even asked for the NCP to cover the airfare - didn't 
    get it though. 
     
201.4She says she is an advocate for children!SALEM::PERRY_WSat Dec 23 1995 12:1511
    
    
    The thing I find so disturbing is that the woman who moved away with 
    their child claims she is an advocate for ***children***.
    She claims that her career goal is to be the same -an advocate for
    children-.  How can this be possible when she doesn't support 
    fathers and their children.  She has demonstrated her lack of support
    for fathers and their children by moving away with her and the former
    husband's child. I guess I am more sensitive to this issue because 
    it happened to me and my children.
                                                   Bill