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Title:Discussions of topics pertaining to men
Notice:Please read all replies to note 1
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELE
Created:Thu Jan 21 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:268
Total number of notes:12755

196.0. "SHALOM RABIN" by CESARE::ELIAG (If it tastes good...it's fattening) Tue Nov 07 1995 08:43

    I don't know if I plain didn't notice it, but I didn't see any comments on
    the killing of Rabin this past saturday.
    
    The only thing I wanted to say here is 
    
    		SHALOM RABIN      SALAAM RABIN
    
    and to express to the Jewish community my personal grief on the loss of
    a great man.
    
    
    Ciao
    graziella
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196.1POLAR::BUCCIONEWed Nov 08 1995 11:121
    How you know he was great? 
196.2pointerDECALP::GUTZWILLERhappiness- U want what U haveWed Nov 08 1995 11:366
see also TAVENG::BAGELS topic 1480.




andreas.
196.3re: .1 free to disagree if you think soCESARE::ELIAGIf it tastes good...it's fatteningThu Nov 09 1995 04:1121
    RE: .1
    
    I can read and whatch TV pretty well. I've never lived in Israel,
    though, and I'm not Jew. Still I also have a brain and from time
    to time I even use it.
    
    I might be overly naive, but since 
    
    1) this is not a restricted notes file 
    2) I buy into the notion that this is a open resource available
    to DIGITAL employees in and out of US of A, 
    3) I happen to be a DIGITAL employee myself 
    4) I fail to see how my 4 lines note could step on anybody's feet,
    enlighten me if you feel that is the case
    
    therefore, I felt I could well enter my thoughts.
    
    Now, the big news, *YOU* do not *HAVE* to agree with me. 
    
    Ciao
    graziella
196.4DECALP::GUTZWILLERhappiness- U want what U haveThu Nov 09 1995 05:5915
men in particular can learn from a man like yitzhak rabin.

a formidable soldier and leader with the courage to realise that military 
power - however great - is not a sufficient guarantee for peace.

we've learned this same lesson in europe some forty years ago, starting 
with the treaties of rome, which laid the foundation to peaceful coexistance
in western europe.

i hope that peace will soon be reality in the middle east too and that
rabin's courage was not in vain.



andreas.
196.5ASABET::blasta.ogo.dec.com::pelkeyLife aint for the SqueamishFri Nov 10 1995 11:2710
   << How you know he was great? 


Why would you reply to the base note with
a response like this ????

I'm not provoking, just trying to figger out
where yer comin from...

/ray
196.6How do we know he was great?POLAR::WILSONCborn to agitateSat Nov 11 1995 22:035
    funny thing, I was wondering just how great the guy was. I mean, his
    name has always been associated with bad guys with guns. I just can not
    swallow the bull like I used to. I want to know why this guy was so
    great. So all you enlightened middle-east scholars, please inform us
    why the man was such a warm, friendly, all around great guy.
196.8POLAR::BUCCIONEMon Nov 13 1995 10:082
     
    Really?
196.9SOLVIT::SOULEPursuing Synergy...Mon Nov 13 1995 11:302
    .7 - Good reply!  Reminds me of the quote "Only Nixon can go to
    China...".
196.7TP011::KENAHDo we have any peanut butter?Mon Nov 13 1995 16:4811
    He was great because he recognized that old policies of belligerence
    -- policies that he helped create -- would not, in the long run, work.
    So he began the process of changing those policies.  Because he had a
    reputation of military prowess, and utter integrity, he was able to
    convince skeptical Israelis (at least some of them) that his earlier
    point of view was no longer tenable, and that peace was possible.  
    
    This most hawkish of hawks became a dove.  His fellows citizens saw
    that if he could change, perhaps they could, too.  Not everyone agreed
    with him -- some vehemently, fanatically, vitriolicly -- he died as a
    result.