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135.1 | | 43GMC::KEITH | Real men double clutch | Fri Aug 26 1994 08:28 | 4 |
| Would this be like a man _only_ being able to 'perform' if he looked at
Playboy or watched an X rated video during sex?
Steve
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135.2 | | DECALP::GUTZWILLER | happiness- U want what U have | Fri Aug 26 1994 10:01 | 17 |
| that's what it sounds like to me. it sounds like one partner (in this case the
woman) is putting too much emphasis on the orgasm which she can achieve with
the help of a device, forgetting her partner in the process.
frankly, if this is the case and if the device is used each and every time,
it sounds to me like the one partner (in this case the woman) is merely
tolerating the other partner in bed with her, but is really only concerned with
getting her orgasm.
this, as it appears, emphasis on self-satisfaction by one partner, sounds like
a common complaint (of course very often with the roles reversed). i would
suggest to the base noter, that if he is in a serious relationship with his
partner, his partner is somehow missing a point about the relationship and they
should tackle this problem seriously, possibly with the help of a therapist.
andreas.
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135.3 | | MROA::MAHONEY | | Fri Aug 26 1994 10:23 | 2 |
| She should "marry" the object and drop the useless partner!
(sorry, I could not resist... it's so umbelievable to me!)
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135.4 | He might want to try harder? | SALEM::SHAW | | Fri Aug 26 1994 10:45 | 16 |
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Well I put a reply in here, then was embarressed by it and deleted it.
One of our freinds managed to read it in the few minutes that it was
up and so I'll try and re do this.
Having grown in London and SanFrancisco, were folks had many sexual
partners and some time a lot of psycedelic drogs sometime after a while
one might become less sensative, or easily bored with same partner
hence, the resort of devices and heavy imagination.
If the man in the base note realy cares for this lady, maybe he should
observe her actions more carefully to see where her sensative parts
are and what motions turn her on. These can be simulated (excuse me if
this is graphic) by replacing the electrical device with tongue,
fingers and the obviouse god given tool.
Shaw
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135.5 | it's worth a try | DECALP::GUTZWILLER | happiness- U want what U have | Fri Aug 26 1994 11:15 | 10 |
| .4> If the man in the base note realy cares for this lady, maybe he should
.4> observe her actions more carefully to see where her sensative parts
.4> are and what motions turn her on.
what a good suggestion shaw! and if the electrical device simply outperforms
the "god given tools" maybe let him operate the device. he won't feel left out
this way.
andreas.
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135.6 | Reply from anonymous author of base note | QUARK::MODERATOR | | Fri Aug 26 1994 14:34 | 26 |
| I am the base noter:
Of the 5 sexual relationships I have had in my life, three used 'electrical
devices.' BTW we are talking Clitoral stimulation here.
# device mechanical oral other
1 N easy easy
2 Y not possible not possible
3 N very easy very easy very sensitive
4 Y some work some work
5 Y not possible not possible May have found "Q spot"
inside
I think that the above table shows that I am 'knowledgeable' as to the
mechanics. The problem is the person on the receiving end.
Working with the other person is a correct step, however it may not be
sufficent.
I don't know if there is anything medically that could/can be done. Maybe
it is just physical differences in women. A sample size of 5 is kind of
small.
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135.7 | | SX4GTO::OLSON | Doug Olson, SDSC West, Palo Alto | Thu Sep 08 1994 21:00 | 27 |
| > Of the 5 sexual relationships I have had in my life,
> [...]
> I think that the above table shows that I am 'knowledgeable' as to
> the mechanics. The problem is the person on the receiving end.
I would hesitate to claim 'knowledgeable' on the basis of five isolated
samples, only some of which have been 'successful' per your table.
Every person is different; every person unique; every person brings
their own special attitudes, gifts, experiences, and hangups to the
relationship. The use of mechanical devices is not a "problem" unless
you make it into one.
I found the last sentence I quoted from you very revealing. "The
problem is the person on the receiving end." I don't agree with you; I
think the statement indicates a significant lack of communication and
that the intimacy is purely physical, without understanding what your
partner wants, needs, or is interested in, in her partnering with you.
Do you care about what she wants? Is the approach you've taken,
hell-bent for your perfect mechanics, capable of reaching the quite
possibly very private, possibly very emotionally delicate, level of
intimacy that sexual love can achieve? From the way you talk,
it really doesn't sound like it.
"The problem is the person on the receiving end." Well, I don't know
either of you, but I must say, I doubt it.
DougO
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